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http://www.technewsworld.com/story/DARPA-Challenges-Researchers-to-Link-Human-Brains-With-Computers-83029.html


To achieve the goals of the Neural Engineering System Design program, DARPA has invited proposals to design, build, demonstrate and validate a human-computer interface that can record from more than 1 million neurons and stimulate more than 100 thousand neurons in the brain in real time.

The interface must perform continuous, simultaneous full-duplex interaction with at least 1,000 neurons -- initially in regions of the human auditory, visual, and somatosensory cortex.

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ho, that's quite a feat that they'll be trying to pull off, even if it's just basic cognitive functions they're trying to mimic.

though, i criticise their rationale stating "the brain is just a circuit".
you can't just simply replace a missing part of a brain with an electronic device that mimics some cognitive functions of a brain and expect everything to be back to normal, but i guess it's better than not replacing a missing area at all.
it's a step forward if the research follows through to be a success, so let's hope it does.

but yes, it seems like a very tiny gateway into true VR.
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Maybe this is narrow-minded of me, but the notion of having a computer or a chip or something along those lines actually connected to my brain is just one big NOPE. It just freaks me out on a very, very base level.
If I was in a terrible medical situation that required it...... fuck, I honestly don't know- there's a lot of ways that could play out so it's kinda hard to say.......
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Randompyrate wrote:

Maybe this is narrow-minded of me, but the notion of having a computer or a chip or something along those lines actually connected to my brain is just one big NOPE. It just freaks me out on a very, very base level.
If I was in a terrible medical situation that required it...... fuck, I honestly don't know- there's a lot of ways that could play out so it's kinda hard to say.......


....a big yes to the government folks because it'd be one big backdoor straight into your head
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It is like any other technology. It can be used for good or evil.

Any technology that allows for a "Full Dive" experience , by definition, must have read/write access to the brain.
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This remarkable technology has implications far beyond Virtual Reality alone. A viable brain-computer interface is the holy grail of digital technology, it will transform society. People who rely on artificial limbs today must use whatever remaining muscles are in their arms or legs to control the device, a BCI will allow these people to control their prosthetics with the same level of fidelity as anyone with their original and wholly organic limbs. Furthermore, as prosthetic technology continues to improve these devices will begin to exceed the capabilities of all organic limbs, making artificial limbs a desirable technology even for those who aren't physically disabled in any way. That soon a time will come where Cyborgs will hold the balance of power and change the destiny of Humanity forever.

So basically, DARPA is taking one big step towards a Ghost in the Shell style Cyberpunk future. It's going to be awesome!

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Yeah I agree 100% with you! The brain is an organic creation of natural processes, over the course of evolution. It's not as easy as, "negative to negative," nor "plug here!" It's funny they said the human "brain is just a circuit," when we don't fully understand our brains today! It's kinda like saying humanity is nothing more than fleshy computers, or when people say we only see ____ (fill in the blank) many frames per second! Our eyes cannot see in frames per second (while we can watch it) because they see [eyes] a constant stream of data. If we could see so many frames per second it would be like watching a strobe light. It's not impossible because our brain does use electric, in a way, to stimulate functions, but it would be fair harder to do in actual practice without seriously screwing up someones head. Cool idea that is kinda scary the more I think about it, but will be long in the future before it is actually used! maybe 2050 or sooner, who knows? But if this does lead to actual full blown virtual reality head sets, that basically put you in a dream state, sign me up, because I would totally use it! After many trails and errors of course but hey, to each their own.
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Before even getting to talk about stuff like VR and brain-controlled systems and whatnot....... just the thought of having a piece of hardware- an electronic man-made bit of gear connected to and interacting with my actual fucking MIND is just..... nope. What if it bugs out or develops a fault? What if it shorts out? Does it fry and take by brain with it? Too many 'ifs' for me.
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Full Dive technology will be possible by 20 years and i can't wait for it. Not really sure what people are freaking out about.
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It's about time they started working on the last piece of the puzzle. We already have most of what we need to enable "full dive" VR. The hardest part remains though. Hopefully full dive VR becomes pheasible in my lifetime. I'd love to try it out.


Randompyrate wrote:

Before even getting to talk about stuff like VR and brain-controlled systems and whatnot....... just the thought of having a piece of hardware- an electronic man-made bit of gear connected to and interacting with my actual fucking MIND is just..... nope. What if it bugs out or develops a fault? What if it shorts out? Does it fry and take by brain with it? Too many 'ifs' for me.


We already have shit like that for our hearts. That could kill you as well. Just embrace SkyNet.
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for the low low price of $10,000 per unit USD

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Fuck yeah!
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This news makes me want to commit mass homicide. The human race really doesn't deserve to live anymore, huh?
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This news makes me want to commit mass homicide. The human race really doesn't deserve to live anymore, huh?

Good luck trying to kill a cyborg, you're going to need it.

Seriously though, what's got you so worried about this technology? Humanity has been harnessing technology for many millennia now, ever since we first learned how to make flint tools. More recently we've discovered electricity and invented the computer, making life easier for everybody. The creation of a brain-computer interface is just another way to allow people to make the most use of their technology, again making life easier for the whole world.

Think of a brain-computer interface as like having a smartphone hardwired into your head. All those apps to use and instant access to mass-communication networks like the internet with just a thought in the right direction. Plus, if you ever get injured that same brain-computer interface will help your rehabilitation by allowing you to control any number of prosthetic devices at will, integrating that technology with the rest of your nervous system as though it were an organic part of your body. These are exciting times, the potential of a brain-computer interface is immense and at the same time wonderful.

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A link with the computer world can be achieved without implanting a chip. The brain just needs to be scanned to match the synapses, that's the hard part without lying inside an MRI machine 24/7. So to begin with they need an external machine that can scans the brain from far range.
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Seriously though, what's got you so worried about this technology? Humanity has been harnessing technology for many millennia now, ever since we first learned how to make flint tools. More recently we've discovered electricity and invented the computer, making life easier for everybody. The creation of a brain-computer interface is just another way to allow people to make the most use of their technology, again making life easier for the whole world.

Think of a brain-computer interface as like having a smartphone hardwired into your head. All those apps to use and instant access to mass-communication networks like the internet with just a thought in the right direction. Plus, if you ever get injured that same brain-computer interface will help your rehabilitation by allowing you to control any number of prosthetic devices at will, integrating that technology with the rest of your nervous system as though it were an organic part of your body. These are exciting times, the potential of a brain-computer interface is immense and at the same time wonderful.





Here are my reasons for hating this:

1) Why are we bothering to invent this when it isn't needed? Such advanced technology must cost a lot of money and resources which could be better spent on developing cures for diseases.
2) Something hardwired into your head doesn't sound safe at all. Something controlling your brain that manipulates your five senses? That sounds very dangerous to me. It will most likely cause brain damage or comas.
3) VR means that you can play video games but it feels as if you are actually in the game. So, where do we draw the line between fiction and reality? If somebody for example gets raped during one of these games, then do we classify it as rape? It felt real and they had no control over it, so they will be traumatised...but on the other hand it wasn't real life. Is it a crime? Is it not?
4) If VR becomes a reality then the possibility of an incident like in SAO also becomes a reality.
5) If people are constantly logged in to these games where they can kill others and it feels real, how long before people start to forget what is real and what isn't, and accidentally kill people in real life?
6) If people log in to these games and enjoy experiencing virtual reality, then will we all just stop caring about the real world? Will people just give up trying to make the world better because you can stick a helmet on and forget about it? I know the world is pretty bleak right now, but running away from it won't help.
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