Themes of redemption in fiction and irl discussion
Posted 1/29/16
OK, before I go on, this is about fiction and in culture. No personal shit, please.

So a villain does a good deed, say Siegfried or Darth Vader, to 'atone' for their misdeeds, what do you think about it? I think its bullshit IRL, but great in fiction.

Your thoughts pls, keep your drama out.
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Posted 1/29/16
It depends on the theme of the story and the characters depravity as a villain if redemption is on or off the table. Thanos The Mad Titan recently decided to redeem himself in Thanos: Redemption (well before it was swiftly ignored. Even for comic book standards it was quick) and it didn't click with me. Thanos has destroyed planets, wiped out half the universe, and done far too many terrible things for redemption to ever seem plausible.
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Posted 1/29/16 , edited 1/29/16
A basic fact of life: People change.

Nobody is the same person today they were yesterday, or will be tomorrow.

I don't believe anyone is beyond redemption.
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Posted 1/29/16
Going to move my post over from the other thread. Thought it was a good thread.
Redemption:
1.)Do you believe in it?
Yes, I have my own take on it.

2.)what do you see a person must do in accordance to what they've done?
Learn the error of their deed. Work to change themselves for the better. Possibly suffer from the same kind of ill effects.

3)what circumstances can it happen?
There's always opportunity. Though the time and circumstance involved might be greater than one expects, even going beyond one's current life. Forgiveness is a great start, but unnecessary. Nothing can be undone. Ultimately it lies on the transgressor to reach a point of personal understanding and change.

4) and in which cases it cannot happen?
When a person rejects atonement or breech of morality entirely. Someone that defiantly takes their own road is bound to deal with hardships whether of a moral nature or not. The path of atonement is always waiting, but not always available and never forced.

Not familiar with any of the story of Soul Calibur. Vader though, I think it was a good start. It showed that he wasn't entirely corrupt. That there was potential. Redemption though? That's a much longer road.
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Posted 1/29/16

Dariamus wrote:

A basic fact of life: People change.

Nobody is the same person today they were yesterday, or will be tomorrow.

I don't believe anyone is beyond redemption.


I doubt that.
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Posted 1/29/16 , edited 1/29/16

lunarxx wrote:
So a villain does a good deed, say Siegfried or Darth Vader, to 'atone' for their misdeeds, what do you think about it? I think its bullshit IRL, but great in fiction.


"Bullshit IRL", for ex., would be everyone thinking Donald Trump is now a great guy for doing that big veteran benefit, even though he was deliberately trying to crush Fox News' debate coverage.

Or everyone thinking Bill Gates is now the world's most generous philanthropist...Short memories, or what??
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