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Is the point of this to help foster more anti-refugee sentiment or something? If so I don't get it. If not then what's the point? I bet if you go look at how many shootings, muggings, rapes, violence, etc there were in L.A. or New Orleans or even another country like Germany during the same time period you'd have even more links. The fact is that there are good and bad people in all elements of life. People are fleeing war, famine and utter destruction and people seem so confused that there are also bad people fleeing. People who use these situations to their advantage and prey on others. In the US we have more than enough crime at our own doorsteps to be fearing something that's not even close to us and yet so many people are so deathly afraid of those refugee's or terrorists. How about fearing that mugger or child molester who lives down the road instead? I just don't get it. Obviously when you have that many people all in one spot you're going to have crime and violence. That's the exact same reason we have crime and violence in every single neighborhood of every single state of every single country around the globe. It's nothing new and it's not a phenomenon that is unique to any certain race, religion or culture. I know it doesn't fit the popular narrative of the day but that's the truth.

Your fear and anger are misplaced. Instead of fear mongering maybe you should do something a bit more positive if this concerns you so much. Maybe volunteer and help educate people at refugee camps. Fear does nothing to change the minds of those you fear. It only gives them more excuses and ammo. Fear, anger, hatred, etc are also no way to lead a healthy and constructive life. Some times you just have to let go of things you have absolutely no control over.
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Anecdotes prove very little. A large list could be created for any group of people large enough to be statistically significant. Is there a statistical change though? From the statistics I have seen, the increase in migrant violent crime is most strongly tied to the increase in migrant population size, and there is not a significantly disproportionate amount of violent crime committed by migrants.
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I see no problem with people standing up for themselves now. They've had enough. I don't care for Neo Nazi gangs or any gang.



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Wonder why Israel hasn't taken any refugees yet. It seems a little bit hypocritical if ask me.


Its not hypocritical, its that Netanyahu is an asshole.

On a side note, Japan is being an asshole as well.






Japan isn't being an asshole. They're smart enough not to let people into their country who have no respect for anyone.



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On a side note, Japan is being an asshole as well.






Japan has had prior problems with middle-eastern refugees and immigrants. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
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Wonder why Israel hasn't taken any refugees yet. It seems a little bit hypocritical if ask me.


Because Israel wants no refugees. The government is currently paying $1,500 - $3,500 to deport African migrants from Sudan and other parts of Africa who made up 0.6% of the population and living within the borders of Isreal to leave and go back to Africa. Most fled due to the civil war in Sudan which has been ongoing for years. The government wants to preserve Israel's ethnic character. The migrants from Sudan were mostly Christian.

The migrants from Sudan were less problematic than the ones from Syria. Most people don't know about the Sudan refugees because it got little to no media coverage.


Despite claims of rampant crime in sections of south Tel Aviv where most Africans live, a senior police commander, David Gez, was quoted as saying the level of crime among the migrants was relatively low.

Sources.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israeli-government-to-pay-african-refugees-3500-to-leave-10253318.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/06/israel-african-migrants-deported

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-africans-idUSBRE85B0IY20120612

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Really, this whole "refugee" / immigration fiasco(EU-wide) is a win-win for isis, al-quada, and any other sand-monkey group out there.

If the EU governments continue to let these pieces of human trash (talking about the one's assaulting/raping/stealing, etc. No beef with real refugee's who will respect the laws and social cultures of their would-be adoptive countries) get away with their shit, the groups back home can claim "look, they do not resist our will/ways, they accept our truth" etc

As the backlash from the public escalates and/or the governments themselves start swallowing their pride and crack down, the groups can say "look how they treat our fellow muslims! We must fight back and avenge our fallen!" ect.

While i'm not one to proclaim doom and gloom Europe-wide, i really do wonder what kind of place it's going to be 5 years from now..how many terrorist cells have infiltrated/formed thanks to this epic fuck-up.
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I see no problem with people standing up for themselves now. They've had enough. I don't care for Neo Nazi gangs or any gang.


They're not "standing up for themselves" they're Neo Nazi's attacking children.

So either you didn't read the article or you are a terrible monster. Which is it? -.-



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Japan isn't being an asshole. They're smart enough not to let people into their country who have no respect for anyone.


Japan, much like yourself, has deep seeded issues with xenophobia. But that aside, yes, they are being assholes. They don't recognize people fleeing from violence and conflict as legitimate refugees and won't accept any help from the UN's refugee agency.




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Japan has had prior problems with middle-eastern refugees and immigrants. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.


Bullshit. Japan's immigration system has been rigidly xenophobic forever. But they have always been quite willing to accept foreign workers under sham programs so they can pay them below minimum wage as cheap labour. Its especially idiotic given that Japan is facing a massive population crisis in the coming decades that its shown no signs of being able to turn around.

The modern country cannot sustain itself without immigration. Regardless of the current "brown people stealin' our jerbs" idiocy. An idiocy which has been repeated over and over historically with each new group of arrivals and which has historically been proven wrong over and over again. This is just the latest in a long cycle of stupidity dating back centuries.



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D4nc3Style wrote:
I see no problem with people standing up for themselves now. They've had enough. I don't care for Neo Nazi gangs or any gang.


They're not "standing up for themselves" they're Neo Nazi's attacking children.

So either you didn't read the article or you are a terrible monster. Which is it? -.-



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Japan isn't being an asshole. They're smart enough not to let people into their country who have no respect for anyone.


Japan, much like yourself, has deep seeded issues with xenophobia. But that aside, yes, they are being assholes. They don't recognize people fleeing from violence and conflict as legitimate refugees and won't accept any help from the UN's refugee agency.




xxJing wrote:
Japan has had prior problems with middle-eastern refugees and immigrants. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.


Bullshit. Japan's immigration system has been rigidly xenophobic forever. But they have always been quite willing to accept foreign workers under sham programs so they can pay them below minimum wage as cheap labour. Its especially idiotic given that Japan is facing a massive population crisis in the coming decades that its shown no signs of being able to turn around.

The modern country cannot sustain itself without immigration. Regardless of the current "brown people stealin' our jerbs" idiocy. An idiocy which has been repeated over and over historically with each new group of arrivals and which has historically been proven wrong over and over again. This is just the latest in a long cycle of stupidity dating back centuries.





Lol, I'm not xenophobic. I don't give a shit about people who, mainly are MEN, running from their country leaving behind kids and woman because they're little bitches. They should fight for their country instead of trying to force themselves, and their primitive culture on others. They scream racism, like you do, and like most liberals do when people don't bend over backwards for them.




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Lol, I'm not xenophobic. I don't give a shit about people who, mainly are MEN, running from their country leaving behind kids and woman because they're little bitches. They should fight for their country instead of trying to force themselves, and their primitive culture on others. They scream racism, like you do, and like most liberals do when people don't bend over backwards for them.



Yup. I agree with this. The majority of those fleeing these countries are men, more than capable of taking up arms and fighting for their country. But, instead they're fleeing to Europe where they expect to be given free housing, education and a good job.

I also don't agree with idiot who believes that you're xenophobic if you don't want immigrants. No, I want people to LEGALLY immigrate, not bum rush our shores and expect handouts. I'm very happy to here that Sweden is planning to deport most of their refugees and that Denmark is in the process of passing legislation to seize refugees' assets.

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runec wrote: The modern country cannot sustain itself without immigration. Regardless of the current "brown people stealin' our jerbs" idiocy. An idiocy which has been repeated over and over historically with each new group of arrivals and which has historically been proven wrong over and over again. This is just the latest in a long cycle of stupidity dating back centuries.
*facepalm*..
Going with the race card, and idiotic "because you guys think they are stealing your jobs!".. ugh... or its YOU thinking centuries back in time more or less.

runec wrote: "I don't support Nazis but I hope Nazi's keep being Nazi's"?
Seriously? >.>
You really think they are like nazi's?... and yes one should try to make any crime related, not good for others be FIXED not cause more shit to come sounds like you want to give all the support to refugees but then agian how by things are now would it be any cind of "support"??..

sundin13 wrote: From the statistics I have seen, the increase in migrant violent crime is most strongly tied to the increase in migrant population size, and there is not a significantly disproportionate amount of violent crime committed by migrants.
and now I would feel sorry for the families destroyed by that... and people are just looking over it and the huge increase of not knowing where many families go as they "disappear" and been a HUGE issue quite a long while being children that are a huge numbers not seen agian and I could just fear the worst...


Akage-chan wrote: Yup. I agree with this. The majority of those fleeing these countries are men (and children But, instead they're fleeing to Europe where they expect to be given free housing, education and a good job.
yeah, the expections are too great making issues/complications when they see this is not true or rather not anymore in the same way when EVERYONE wants to get to the cake, its too many that want the same piece of the same cake making issues.
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Let me try to help all of you who have been told what to think so many times that you lost the ability to think for yourselves. Acknowledging that a serious problems exists, then consciously, and purposefully deciding to exacerbate that problem is not sane behavior. As many of you have pointed out, the places that refugees are being taken in by have VAST problems of their own which they cannot at this time deal with, and as a result many people in these places are already suffering greatly. There are already not enough resources to keep every member of the general population in these countries safe, so adding more people who will commit more crimes is sincerely suicidal. Well-being is not relative, you cannot morally or ethically decide to offer help which comes at the expense of others. You must consider that it is not just "people" that crimes are committed against, imagine for a moment that it was you, your family, or your friends that were raped, beaten, or murdered. For the very same reason that you cannot push another person in front of a car to save someone, you could only jump in front of the car yourself, you also cannot knowingly allow people who are going to hurt others into your home/school/city/state/country, simply because YOU are ok with the consequences. People are not robots with cold, dead insides, they are just as human as you and everyone you've ever met worth you giving a damn about. To those who disagree, the fact that you can see there are refugees who are human, who need help is a testament to everything I've said. The only groups with individuals who choose to apply the conscious-problem-exacerbation-level-insanity-decision-making model regularly are those who suffer from serious addiction, violent terrorists, and and the few remaining communist regimes left in the world, and I would hate to accuse anyone here of employing the same methods. This is a very heated topic for a lot of people, so at least sympathize with those who hold opposing views. Block out the trolls, xenophobes, apologists, and nazis, both side believe they hold the moral high ground, so this is certainly a productive topic for discussion.
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Lol, I'm not xenophobic. I don't give a shit about people who, mainly are MEN, running from their country leaving behind kids and woman because they're little bitches. They should fight for their country instead of trying to force themselves, and their primitive culture on others. They scream racism, like you do, and like most liberals do when people don't bend over backwards for them.



Yup. I agree with this. The majority of those fleeing these countries are men, more than capable of taking up arms and fighting for their country. But, instead they're fleeing to Europe where they expect to be given free housing, education and a good job.

I also don't agree with idiot who believes that you're xenophobic if you don't want immigrants. No, I want people to LEGALLY immigrate, not bum rush our shores and expect handouts. I'm very happy to here that Sweden is planning to deport most of their refugees and that Denmark is in the process of passing legislation to seize refugees' assets.



You're so xenophobic you don't even realize it anymore.
At least admit it. Refusing to help millions of people who lost everything in a war and are just trying to survive is pretty damn xenophobic and heartless.


Also the trip to get here is damn dangerous. There are daily reports of it: Dozens of refugees who drown trying to get to Europe. It's shameful that Europe isn't even managing to help these people. So ofc you get young males who take the risky trip the most. They do have the hope of getting their families to follow later in a less life threatening way.


Looking how such a rich and powerful organization as the EU fails to even save just a few million desperate people to help is a pretty sad sight.

Mostly the reason why it fails is because of the massive xenophobic tendencies that are uncovered again these days everywhere. Not only here in the EU, but also in the US. Seriously look at Trumps ideas. Make a wall against immigrants. Deport Muslims. Yeah. If people like that get more and more traction we'll have a 3rd world war on our hands down the road, as the extreme nationalists in different countries start to turn on their neighbor countries. Open a history book and skip back 100 years.
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Lol, I'm not xenophobic. I don't give a shit about people who, mainly are MEN, running from their country leaving behind kids and woman because they're little bitches.



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Yup. I agree with this. The majority of those fleeing these countries are men, more than capable of taking up arms and fighting for their country. But, instead they're fleeing to Europe where they expect to be given free housing, education and a good job.



http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php

Wrong.

It only becomes a majority of men when you only look at refugees fleeing by sea. Which makes sense given the danger of the crossing.



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They should fight for their country instead of trying to force themselves, and their primitive culture on others. They scream racism, like you do, and like most liberals do when people don't bend over backwards for them.


What the fuck do you think is going on in Syria? Seriously.

Here's a question: Do you want to fight for ISIS? No? Tough shit. Forced conscription. Do you want to fight for one of rebel factions? For the government? Tough shit. Forced conscription.

You 18? Tough shit. Mandatory 3 year conscription into Bassad's army.
You 15? Tough shit. Mandatory conscription into ISIS.

Don't like it? Welp, you're off to prison or an execution.

To tell people who have been in the midst of a civil war for almost 5 years that they should "fight for their country" from your safe little seat in a developed nation is the height of arrogance and ignorance. If you can't even be bothered to educate yourself on the most rudimentary basics of the situation in question, then shut the hell up about it. Because your opinion on it is worthless, callous and doing nothing to help the problems at hand.




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Akage-chan wrote:


D4nc3Style wrote:]

Lol, I'm not xenophobic. I don't give a shit about people who, mainly are MEN, running from their country leaving behind kids and woman because they're little bitches. They should fight for their country instead of trying to force themselves, and their primitive culture on others. They scream racism, like you do, and like most liberals do when people don't bend over backwards for them.



Yup. I agree with this. The majority of those fleeing these countries are men, more than capable of taking up arms and fighting for their country. But, instead they're fleeing to Europe where they expect to be given free housing, education and a good job.

I also don't agree with idiot who believes that you're xenophobic if you don't want immigrants. No, I want people to LEGALLY immigrate, not bum rush our shores and expect handouts. I'm very happy to here that Sweden is planning to deport most of their refugees and that Denmark is in the process of passing legislation to seize refugees' assets.



You're so xenophobic you don't even realize it anymore.
At least admit it. Refusing to help millions of people who lost everything in a war and are just trying to survive is pretty damn xenophobic and heartless.


Also the trip to get here is damn dangerous. There are daily reports of it: Dozens of refugees who drown trying to get to Europe. It's shameful that Europe isn't even managing to help these people. So ofc you get young males who take the risky trip the most. They do have the hope of getting their families to follow later in a less life threatening way.


Yeah... still not xenophobic. Most of them are ABLE MEN who could easily fight for their country, but they want free hand outs. It's a 3:1 ratio.

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