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well there's always the easiest way to avoid them is to never use a computer or the internet at all.
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Rujikin wrote:

Step #1: Install Linux
Step #2: profit.
Step #3 laugh at all the windows users and charge them for virus removal.


. . . two and three are reversed.

And the remaining steps for many others:

Step #4: realize you don't have any class leading software, only stuff that kind of sort of resembles it from half a decade or more ago
Step #5: surrender most of gaming catalog if substantial while gaming on PC
Step #6: fight ALSA for being a POS as always bemoaning the Linux audio stack
Step #7: find distro you're using has some flaw that's preventing specific functionality you need/want
Step #8: post to a community to find they don't have an answer now matter how much you troubleshoot, recommend you change distros
Step #9: repeat step seven and eight till you find something that has the most working (may not be possible)
Step #9b: upgrade hardware before new drivers that properly support it are out, realize you're fucked being behind the curve
Step #11: crawl back to Windows

Linux is great for specific purposes. Giving life to old systems doing very menial consumer usage, research, programming, and networking. The second you start getting into professional usage, gaming, niche hobbies, and newest consumer hardware you tend to start sacrificing stability, usability, or both. There are some people I would definitely say Linux could work for. My dad uses ProE and Solidworks so it's a no go. I use a lot of VSTs for audio DSP on my main listening rig and am an audio junkie - so no go.

The first one to say "dual boot" loses the game. If the solution is to fragment the user experience Linux will never thrive. It is effectively telling the companies that one will STILL buy their products even though they are only on Windows thus never driving them to develop for Linux as a platform.
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I haven't had a virus in a very long time. I use Microsoft security essentials with windows firewall. Works for me, I don't need some high powered scanner running in the background all the time. I've been using the internet long enough to know how to be safe. Run Noscript + adblock. Be mindful of where you browse and what you download. I don't torrent anymore, but I used to and never got a virus doing that either. Common sense is the best weapon against computer problems.
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WIndows everybody!
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zinjashike wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Step #1: Install Linux
Step #2: profit.
Step #3 laugh at all the windows users and charge them for virus removal.


. . . two and three are reversed.

And the remaining steps for many others:

Step #4: realize you don't have any class leading software, only stuff that kind of sort of resembles it from half a decade or more ago
Step #5: surrender most of gaming catalog if substantial while gaming on PC
Step #6: fight ALSA for being a POS as always bemoaning the Linux audio stack
Step #7: find distro you're using has some flaw that's preventing specific functionality you need/want
Step #8: post to a community to find they don't have an answer now matter how much you troubleshoot, recommend you change distros
Step #9: repeat step seven and eight till you find something that has the most working (may not be possible)
Step #9b: upgrade hardware before new drivers that properly support it are out, realize you're fucked being behind the curve
Step #11: crawl back to Windows

Linux is great for specific purposes. Giving life to old systems doing very menial consumer usage, research, programming, and networking. The second you start getting into professional usage, gaming, niche hobbies, and newest consumer hardware you tend to start sacrificing stability, usability, or both. There are some people I would definitely say Linux could work for. My dad uses ProE and Solidworks so it's a no go. I use a lot of VSTs for audio DSP on my main listening rig and am an audio junkie - so no go.

The first one to say "dual boot" loses the game. If the solution is to fragment the user experience Linux will never thrive. It is effectively telling the companies that one will STILL buy their products even though they are only on Windows thus never driving them to develop for Linux as a platform.

ALSA isn't too bad, honestly pulseaudio is much much worse. I've been using linux for a while and I haven't had to crawl back to windows.

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Radraymond01 wrote:
ALSA isn't too bad, honestly pulseaudio is much much worse.


ALSA has some specific issues to it that bother me. I rather not have to deal with config files or dropping into terminal to change the default output device for example. With Pulseaudio you should be able to set a default sink to a non-default ALSA device allowing more user friendly device changes if (and that's a big if) it works right. When there's problems (IME there's always something wrong somewhere) it will just compound it.

This sort of confusion and variability in the audio stack is part of the problem I'm getting at though.


I've been using linux for a while and I haven't had to crawl back to windows.


And thus your use doesn't fall within the Linux unfriendly categories, be happy. For my use Linux simply isn't acceptable. No matter how many benefits Linux can get on paper in real world usage the applicability is limited in scope.
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probably the downside of linux is gaming...even with steam it's slow. very slow.
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namealreadytaken wrote:

probably the downside of linux is gaming...even with steam it's slow. very slow.


Gaming on Linux can actually be faster than Windows, but it requires careful optimization and the best drivers which makes it very rare. Unfortunately, for many this will mean nVidia proprietary drivers are required. The closed source AMD ones are lagging and while the open source ones are okay-ish still don't quite match full performance marks. Equally, some engines just aren't built for it in mind - Unity games will always have worse performance.

My bigger concern is how are you going to convince people to ditch libraries that aren't ported. WINE isn't a proper solution IMO.
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zinjashike wrote:


namealreadytaken wrote:

probably the downside of linux is gaming...even with steam it's slow. very slow.


Gaming on Linux can actually be faster than Windows, but it requires careful optimization and the best drivers which makes it very rare. Unfortunately, for many this will mean nVidia proprietary drivers are required. The closed source AMD ones are lagging and while the open source ones are okay-ish still don't quite match full performance marks. Equally, some engines just aren't built for it in mind - Unity games will always have worse performance.

My bigger concern is how are you going to convince people to ditch libraries that aren't ported. WINE isn't a proper solution IMO.


Even without any special configuration, WINE often runs older games faster than Windows. It's not a proper solution for newer games, but works fine for the older ones.

Not a good enough excuse for everyone that wants to play the new shit, but fine for people like me that are still stuck in the past, heh. (And for PS2 emulation.)

[EDIT] Winetricks is also super useful in getting your libraries.
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Actually you rarely ever get viruses from porn. Most web designers/developers would say that porn sites have some of the best coding in the world. Because it's such a big industry and they don't want to lose their viewers/customers.
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Gwyndolin wrote:

Actually you rarely ever get viruses from porn. Most web designers/developers would say that porn sites have some of the best coding in the world. Because it's such a big industry and they don't want to lose their viewers/customers.


That's right. Fap safely.
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Fun fact, I've had my parents using Xubuntu for about 5 years on oldish computers. They're idiots when it comes to technology, but they ain't ever had a problem.

The days of having to be knowledgeable to use Linux are long gone. YOu just have to be knowledgeable to get it installed. (And even then, the GUI installers for most distributions are very user-friendly.)

The only reason it's so rare is because computers come pre-installed (almost always) with Windows, and your average user will just use what's given to them, to make things simple.

The exact same thing happened with my parents. They used Linux, because it's what I gave to them.


I'm probably going to do this to my grandpa. I'm pretty sure I clean his computer monthly because of viruses originating from porn.
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nanikore2 wrote:

at first I thought this thread is about not getting sick with cold or flu


I'm glad I wasn't the only one that thought that too!

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zinjashike wrote:


namealreadytaken wrote:

probably the downside of linux is gaming...even with steam it's slow. very slow.


Gaming on Linux can actually be faster than Windows, but it requires careful optimization and the best drivers which makes it very rare. Unfortunately, for many this will mean nVidia proprietary drivers are required. The closed source AMD ones are lagging and while the open source ones are okay-ish still don't quite match full performance marks. Equally, some engines just aren't built for it in mind - Unity games will always have worse performance.

My bigger concern is how are you going to convince people to ditch libraries that aren't ported. WINE isn't a proper solution IMO.

fglrx is a fucking mess. WINE does work for some situations, but if I'm really desperate I have a Windows 7 VM.

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