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let's not forget that Microsoft is being as transparent as a brick when it comes to their privacy policies.
>force updates which most users cannot avoid
>completely overrides user preferences in regard to privacy
>users need to use a 3rd party program to fix many privacy issues
(many thanks to the hackers who donated their efforts to help the less tech-savvy community)
>tries to install without even notifying the user / getting user approval

Google and Apple, on the other hand, have a transparent policy in regard to privacy. Apple even frustrated the NSA because of the privacy practice introduced in iOS 8 (to the point that the government is now trying to pass a law that forces Apple to add a backdoor, but that's another story). managing privacy settings in iOS is easy and simple - as it should be. try to manage your privacy settings on windows 10 (without the 3rd party tool, again developed by hackers) and you'll likely be frustrated and not even find all the privacy options you want.
(some options are likely only available by tweaking the registry - good luck with that)
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Posted 2/3/16 , edited 2/3/16

George_z wrote:

Most of the issues I'm reading here aren't actually with the OS, but having issue with Microsoft.
As Hrafna aptly sais above me, you're free to move over to Apple, just know that Apple is no different from Microsoft in that regard, they too will "force" their updates on you and at certain points tell you that if you do not that certain things will stop working.


I think you're under a false assumption here. You assume people want to be subjected to things they don't like, or at least don't have a problem with it. They don't. If they did they would have switched to Mac already. Clearly, the dissent is because people would rather NOT have another Apple, and liked the choice and freedom they got with previous versions of Windows. They are not happy because that is going away.

By the way, the attitude was unnecessary.
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uh, yeah. the only reason i upgraded to window 7 was the whole move to 64 bit systems. i was still happily using xp on my other machines. i think windwos 7 will be around for a while. and does microsoft even send system updates to pirated OS versions? ive been trying to turn off those stupid updates since they started them.
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Clearly, the dissent is because people would rather NOT have another Apple, and liked the choice and freedom they got with previous versions of Windows. They are not happy because that is going away.

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namealreadytaken wrote:

let's not forget that Microsoft is being as transparent as a brick when it comes to their privacy policies.
>force updates which most users cannot avoid
>completely overrides user preferences in regard to privacy
>users need to use a 3rd party program to fix many privacy issues
(many thanks to the hackers who donated their efforts to help the less tech-savvy community)
>tries to install without even notifying the user / getting user approval

Google and Apple, on the other hand, have a transparent policy in regard to privacy. Apple even frustrated the NSA because of the privacy practice introduced in iOS 8 (to the point that the government is now trying to pass a law that forces Apple to add a backdoor, but that's another story). managing privacy settings in iOS is easy and simple - as it should be. try to manage your privacy settings on windows 10 (without the 3rd party tool, again developed by hackers) and you'll likely be frustrated and not even find all the privacy options you want.
(some options are likely only available by tweaking the registry - good luck with that)


It's a pain the the ass getting rid of the data miners, OneDrive, and all that useless crap that comes pre-packaged. Who the hell would want 100 gigs of tentacle hentai porn automatically backed up on an online cloud? And who would want supposedly "anonymous" logs of all the french wig fetish porn they download to be sent to Microsoft servers? (Just an example)

On my windows 10 PC, the only thing I've ever used Cortana for is to search for Gaping futanari space decks

I have 10 on one of my computers, and 7 on my main PC. I prefer 7.

10 is basically 7 with added bloatware/privacy invasions and unnecessary changes that appeal to the mainstream, droned in lady-gaga crowd. Fuck.That.
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Posted 2/3/16 , edited 2/3/16

selenetiana wrote:

I think you're under a false assumption here. You assume people want to be subjected to things they don't like, or at least don't have a problem with it. They don't. If they did they would have switched to Mac already. Clearly, the dissent is because people would rather NOT have another Apple, and liked the choice and freedom they got with previous versions of Windows. They are not happy because that is going away.


That's a good argument, but everyone knew that this was bound to happen at a certain point in time.
The industry has been pushing this for a long time and Microsoft's now following suit. Personally I have accepted this and genuinely feel that people are refusing to upgrade for the wrong reasons.

Also, you still have the choice to not upgrade, your W7/8 computer won't just stop working one day but as I said before; There will be consequenses eventually.
And no, Windows 10 will not install itself without your permission, download, regretfully yes, but Windows 10 will not autonomously install itself. "Good morning, Dave"

Coming back to the what you call cheeky comment, not meant like that.
"I'm moving to Apple" is also a sentence I have heard plenty and all I'm trying to say is to not do that for the wrong reasons either.
In the end they're both on the exact same side of the coin.

As for Linux, yes, I have moderate Linux experience and run it on the systems I don't use for gaming.
Yes, in recent years Linux has become a very nice and easy to install and use OS. But with more and more applications moving to online platforms Linux is noticably starting to lag behind the corporate operating systems.
Apart from that, for people completely new to the OS, its insane freedom and customizability can also be its biggest crutch.
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I hope none of the people saying "Microsoft is spying on me" uses Google Chrome, Gmail, or even FACEBOOK..............
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I hope none of the people saying "Microsoft is spying on me" uses or even FACEBOOK..............
its a total different thing as to facebook is a site not in your own private stuff, while on facebook you choose to publish what info you have and what you do.

but I don't know what extend microsoft goes as many programs need some "private access" either it being steam, games or programs that wants to help you (but you have to trust them as well, and like beta testing stuff)
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nanikore2 wrote:
I hope none of the people saying "Microsoft is spying on me" uses Google Chrome, Gmail, or even FACEBOOK..............
its a total different thing as to facebook is a site not in your own private stuff, while on facebook you choose to publish what info you have and what you do.

but I don't know what extend microsoft goes as many programs need some "private access" either it being steam, games or programs that wants to help you (but you have to trust them as well, and like beta testing stuff)


uhhhh huh.

https://epic.org/privacy/facebook/

p.s. I put the Google stuff back in the quote since there's no reason whatsoever for it to be left out
Posted 2/3/16 , edited 2/3/16
I tried it and my computer couldn't run it. It's an older HD/3D model from Envy 17. Which has been lovely for me and all my needs. Not sure if it was Windows 10 that was just working out the kinks because I tried it when it first gave me the notification to. It was terrible in my opinion. It froze constantly, especially on photo slideshows and the main screen took forever to come up and download it's fancy clock and default background all the time. I would set up settings and they had issues staying the way I put them too.

I did love the customization. Something you simply needed to get used to, and from there made things easier to find with a nice design. Not sure if I would ever have used Cortana. Seemed pretty useless to me in regards of the programs description.

In summary, it was too buggy to use in my case and I went back to Windows 7. Good ol' 7. <3
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I'll upgrade OSes when I get a new computer. Microsoft has been trying to get people to move on from XP for a long time and you can still find offices using it because it works fine and does what they need it for. Just like people who buy a car and drive it for as long as they can not getting next year's model just because it has XYZ the older model does not have. As soon as I heard about this, I disabled the "Recommended" download and install. I just don't believe in "fixing" what's not broken. Plus, its natural for people to be suspicious after MS has for years charged $$$ for new versions of Windows.
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nanikore2 wrote:


Freddy96NO wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:
I hope none of the people saying "Microsoft is spying on me" uses Google Chrome, Gmail, or even FACEBOOK..............
its a total different thing as to facebook is a site not in your own private stuff, while on facebook you choose to publish what info you have and what you do.

but I don't know what extend microsoft goes as many programs need some "private access" either it being steam, games or programs that wants to help you (but you have to trust them as well, and like beta testing stuff)


uhhhh huh.

https://epic.org/privacy/facebook/

p.s. I put the Google stuff back in the quote since there's no reason whatsoever for it to be left out

Okay? Facebook still only collects information that is input into its network.

As stated above, google's privacy policy is different than Windows 10. And google doesn't offer a fake data collection option that proposes to turn off any collected data and then streams the data anyway. Nor does it scan your files and place them onto a database.

If you ain't got shit to worry about, then yah who fucking cares right? I do. That kind of shit is shady, and I ain't going to support it.
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nanikore2 wrote:
https://epic.org/privacy/facebook/

p.s. I put the Google stuff back in the quote since there's no reason whatsoever for it to be left out
what I could see is what most sites (like dating sites and others) have issues with, so its to be "expected".. I am more worried about some other things that has more access.

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nanikore2 wrote:

uhhhh huh.

https://epic.org/privacy/facebook/

p.s. I put the Google stuff back in the quote since there's no reason whatsoever for it to be left out

Okay? Facebook still only collects information that is input into its network.

As stated above, google's privacy policy is different than Windows 10. And google doesn't offer a fake data collection option that proposes to turn off any collected data and then streams the data anyway. Nor does it scan your files and place them onto a database.

If you ain't got shit to worry about, then yah who fucking cares right? I do. That kind of shit is shady, and I ain't going to support it.


You certainly didn't read the link.

Facebook DOES collect information whether it's "input into its network" by a user or not.
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Freddy96NO wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:
https://epic.org/privacy/facebook/

p.s. I put the Google stuff back in the quote since there's no reason whatsoever for it to be left out
what I could see is what most sites (like dating sites and others) have issues with, so its to be "expected".. I am more worried about some other things that has more access.



Are you sure that Google and Facebook somehow has less access?
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