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I "upgraded" to 10 a few months ago. That operating system made me switch to Linux full time. For those that say windows 10 is free, nothing is free. If it's free, you are the product.
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There's a program you can download that will remove the windows 10 update and all windows 10 files and supposedly keep the update away. It's called GWX control panel I have used it and does a good job actually. Only thing is I have had to manually hide the update but it will delete anything related to windows 10 and notify you when windows 10 files are detected. So highly recommend it if you don't want windows 10.

Edit: If you don't trust a program doing it for you look for this update in your windows update area (installed windows updates) KB3035583 uninstall it and hide it because of the fact it will reinstall itself do to automatic updates. Also turn automatic updates off put it to notify me of new updates and let me choose as well. Only thing is I don't think you can delete the installed windows 10 files yourself but without the KB3035583 update they should never activate or update.

So now windows 10 should never reinstall or wake up and find windows 10 setting itself up by itself one day.


I wonder if Microsoft will keep copies of your data on their servers, even if you downgrade - I mean upgrade back to Windows 7?
Posted 2/3/16 , edited 2/3/16

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courtney9094 wrote:

There's a program you can download that will remove the windows 10 update and all windows 10 files and supposedly keep the update away. It's called GWX control panel I have used it and does a good job actually. Only thing is I have had to manually hide the update but it will delete anything related to windows 10 and notify you when windows 10 files are detected. So highly recommend it if you don't want windows 10.

Edit: If you don't trust a program doing it for you look for this update in your windows update area (installed windows updates) KB3035583 uninstall it and hide it because of the fact it will reinstall itself do to automatic updates. Also turn automatic updates off put it to notify me of new updates and let me choose as well. Only thing is I don't think you can delete the installed windows 10 files yourself but without the KB3035583 update they should never activate or update.

So now windows 10 should never reinstall or wake up and find windows 10 setting itself up by itself one day.


I wonder if Microsoft will keep copies of your data on their servers, even if you downgrade - I mean upgrade back to Windows 7?



Yep they do they keep your computer details saved and everything in their microsoft database and you can also upgrade to windows 10 anytime without haveing to go through the update or anything.

Just install/download the correct version of windows 10 to a usb or disc but it has to be the 100% correct version you where using and as soon as you get online windows 10 it will activate by itself without a key or anything. Do to microsoft keeping track of which computer upgraded. So yeah they still hold onto your info if you downgrade back.

So if you downgrade back to 7 or 8.1 I highly recommend you get the program I mentioned and hide the KB3035583 update as soon as possible. like as soon as you downgrade and connect online lol. Oh also the program only works if your on windows 7 or 8.1 it won't downgrade your pc, laptop, or netbook for you it just keeps the windows 10 update at bay/ever reaching your computer and deletes it if there's anything windows 10 related on your pc.

Plus like I said if you really want to go back to windows 10 just download it onto a disc or usb and it will activate by itself as soon as you connect to online as long as you have the correct windows 10 version.
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Can someone here perhaps tell me why Windows 10 is so bad?
I've read and heard many rumors, with a debunk rate of no less than 100%, but noone could tell me any other valid reason than "This here program I bought in 1985 won't work with Windows 10". (Well then, isn't it time you looked for an update to that program then, pops?)
System requirements? Haven't changed at all since Windows 7, any Windows 7 capable PC can run Windows 10.

I've been running Windows 10 since it was in beta, everything I use my pc for works fine, I don't experience loss in performance nor any instabilities and my machine runs for weeks at a time without shutting down or rebooting.

Before long Windows 7 and 8 will also stop receiving updates completely, putting your computer at even greater risk.

Now tell me again, why won't you upgrade your PC?
People don't think twice to ram the update button when their Android and/or Apple device tells them there's an update to their operating system, or accept without question the loss of functions when they don't.
But when Microsoft offers a full upgrade to their operating system, for free, it is bad?

[edit]
About the phone/tablet look argument, Microsoft actually took a large leap back from that with this OS. It's completely customizable. You're lucky to have skipped Windows 8(.1) which pretty much forced that Look and Feel on you.
Sure it's still there, but unlike it's predecessor, you do not need third party applications (Classic Shell) to get the old Windows Look and Feel back.


I hate the windows 10 gui

I'll be switching to linux sooner
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George_z wrote:

Can someone here perhaps tell me why Windows 10 is so bad?
I've read and heard many rumors, with a debunk rate of no less than 100%, but noone could tell me any other valid reason than "This here program I bought in 1985 won't work with Windows 10". (Well then, isn't it time you looked for an update to that program then, pops?)


Windows media center (which is not being carried into win-10) is the only program which allows you to make your PC into a DVR with a cable-card enabled device when you have Time Warner Cable (not sure about others, but there isn't any competition in most of the US for what cable operator you can sign up with). TWC has encrypted their cable channels so those can't be recorded otherwise except with WMC and/or their own PVR hardware that you have to pay rental on. There are no other programs to do that, and I'm almost positive that's by intent.

Perhaps if the bill passes to stop cable companies from having proprietary PVRs and rental fees would help, but even that won't let you build your own media library on your own PC system.

Also, as you note, people of a certain age (hi mom) are pretty much incapable of learning a new system no matter how simple the changes seem to you or (even) me... They are just too old to learn new tricks.

And while MS have now disabled it and apologized, they did try to force the upgrade on PCs set to receive automatic updates a short time ago. Royally screwed up my mom's PC where it wouldn't even boot into safe mode. I was lucky(?) to have saved enough previous restore points to go back to, but it took two days of just letting it grind away.
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Windows XP > 7 > 10 > 8/8.1 > Vista

Ideally I'd use XP as it was lightweight and feature rich/easily customizable for its time. However, since XP is discontinued, it means 7 is the best left standing for now. While 10 is not as good as 7, it is way better than 8/8.1 and everything is better than Vista.

Honestly, 10 is pretty good if you don't mind about more MS privacy intrusion; many of those default data collection settings can be disabled btw.
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Id upgrade, but all my torrented games wont work on Win 10
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Its free!!
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I'm honestly used to 8.1 and can't find anything wrong with it. That being said, it has been out for a while so it's a lot more stable than Windows 10. Not to mention, Windows 10 is not really game friendly yet.

But to honest those that are saying Windows 10 is better than 8, will STOP USING 8 and go to 8.1, not much of a different but performance wise, way better.

Since it came out some time around June, I'll probably wait until then to decide whether I want to upgrade or not since that's when the free upgrade is over.
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Posted 2/3/16 , edited 2/3/16

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George_z wrote:
Can someone here perhaps tell me why Windows 10 is so bad?

here's a very well circulated picture consisting of many terms and agreements.
http://puu.sh/jX1sb/7023ec215c.jpg
reading the parts, it should be self-evident why people want to stay away from it.

edit:
Apple "forcing" updates: the jailbreaking community will have to disagree with you on that one.
they just don't let people downgrade to a previous OS. and yes, that's different.

and linux has come a long way. granted, it's not the best for gaming, but for productive tasks, it's a solid OS
(and by linux, i of course mean the many distributions such as ubuntu, gentoo, etc)


Apple can't handle gaming so it loses. And the inability to upgrade their useless proprietary hardware just digs the hole deeper.
Posted 2/3/16

George_z wrote:

As I made my point on the Windows 10 part I'm just going to leave the following to keep some people awake at night.

Google, Facebook, heh, anyone ever stopped to think about what your own Internet provider knows about you?


Actually I'm well aware of this and it's sccuuurrrryyyyyy
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Ranwolf wrote:Apple can't handle gaming so it loses. And the inability to upgrade their useless proprietary hardware just digs the hole deeper.

yes and no. granted, most games are not natively compatible with Mac, but there's a program that lets you play windows games (forgot what it was called), as well as Steam. now, is it worth the price? for most people, probably not.
we kinda got a little off topic here though :p

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I swapped to 10 from 7. Did a fresh install. Turned off automatic updates, removed all the icons from the start menu, and customized it to my liking. It gives you a ton of different options that I'm sure most people here didn't take the time to explore. Enabling the hidden option to enable Dark Mode for the GUI was pretty awesome too - the menus look very nice this way.

It's been running great thus far. It also has proper dual monitor support which, all I can say is... finally! I used to have to use an app to make using dual monitors bearable, but Microsoft finally resolved this in Windows 10.

Gaming, daily usage, you name it... been great. The Windows 10 version of my audio drivers actually work better than the Windows 7 variant as well, so hey, that's another bonus.

Most of the issues encountered are people being too used to what they already know and not wanting change, or simply not bothering to take the time to learn the operating system and what they can really do with it. And then I suppose there's the paranoid group who make all kinds of crazy assumptions. Good times.
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Shittiest OS since Windows 98.
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George_z wrote:

Can someone here perhaps tell me why Windows 10 is so bad?
I've read and heard many rumors, with a debunk rate of no less than 100%, but noone could tell me any other valid reason than "This here program I bought in 1985 won't work with Windows 10". (Well then, isn't it time you looked for an update to that program then, pops?)
System requirements? Haven't changed at all since Windows 7, any Windows 7 capable PC can run Windows 10.

I've been running Windows 10 since it was in beta, everything I use my pc for works fine, I don't experience loss in performance nor any instabilities and my machine runs for weeks at a time without shutting down or rebooting.

Before long Windows 7 and 8 will also stop receiving updates completely, putting your computer at even greater risk.

Now tell me again, why won't you upgrade your PC?
People don't think twice to ram the update button when their Android and/or Apple device tells them there's an update to their operating system, or accept without question the loss of functions when they don't.
But when Microsoft offers a full upgrade to their operating system, for free, it is bad?

The broken down version.

I'm not upgrading because I don't want to upgrade.

My trust in Windows is shattered.

When support for 7 is discontinued, I will invest in a macbook until I have enough money to build my own computer in which I'm considering running Linux with.


I apologize if I seem rude, but if you have the cash for a macbook.... you might as well just build your own computer with that cash instead, and run both Linux and Mac OS X on it. Dual boot is a real thing, and it only requires a little know how.

Or you could use virtualization in Linux to run Mac OSX.

Really, there are plenty of options to be had here, yet you seem to be determined to take the dumbest one by buying a bloody macbook.

You may not realize just how utterly stupid it would be of you to do that, but it really is stupid as hell.

I don't say any of this to judge you, or belittle you. No, I say this to save you the trouble you are about to inflict upon yourself.

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