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Post Reply Why does US public transportation suck?
Posted 2/5/16

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US doesn't really Suck and I COME FROM Puerto Rico.
Lol 1. Less violent crimes stfu there are crimes anywhere it's the people not the place
2 . again we have better food it's the people that choose to buy the McDonald's and other crap. And what happens when you eat eat and no exercise? You get fat common knowledge.
I could go on with you aswell and if anything both Us and Europe Suck in different ways


Not like I live in a great country but there are still more positive things about Europe than US.


And? Lmao. And Puerto Rico is better than Europe , it's more beautiful also. We can go tick for tack ALL DAY
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The United States (9,833,000 km²) is 27.53 times as big as Germany (357,114 km²).
Mostly this.

If you want a real lesson into why this happens, play any game in the video game series Sim City (although I heard the most recent one sucked terribly). Its fun but its also a harsh reality into what it takes to manage a city, the bigger the city the more you have to neglect unprofitable regions. This is further complicated by state lines, which smaller countries obviously don't have.
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But sim city is a game Lol
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I'd say it's more a question of large cities vs suburbs / rural areas. Public transportation works well in large cities because you can spread the cost over many people (taxes) and users (fees), and the with a high population density, you don't need to move people over a (relatively) large area. That allows for plenty of bus routes / train lines and also allows for public transit vehicles to pass often on those lines.

The moment, you don't have that population density, public transportations become highly cost-inefficient, so when they are implemented, officials have to reduce, compared to large cities, the number of lines as well as the bus (train, etc.) frequency. At that point, cars become a more effective means of transportation.

As for Europe vs the US, European countries are lot smaller than the US, so it's mostly a population density matter.


It's even the same in Japan: from J-List's newsletter, it seems that in major cities like Tokyo, you can live without owning a car, however outside of them, using a car is pretty much mandatory if you want to move about.
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Chill man, you don't even know bad public transit if you think US is bad, Canada is way worse, especially in smaller cities.
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After spending lots of time in Prague in the Czech Republic, I could get around without using any sort of automobile. The tram stopped right in front of my hotel and the Metro got me everywhere. So, after using the amazing public transportation of Prague, it was a real slap in the face when I returned to the US. Why is it that other countries like Germany, Portugal, and the Czech Republic have such great and efficient public transportation while most cities in the US only have buses (see the disaster of public transit in Cheyenne, Wyoming for example) and many other cities have even less? Is it a financial thing, or just US officials being against public transit?

Seriously, nearly every public transit project in smaller cities have been put on hold. Remember when we were going to get high speed rail in Wisconsin? And then it gets cancelled. And at the same time, two lines on the Prague Metro get expanded/extended.

I'm surprised US officials aren't taking this into account.



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272014 wrote:

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272014 wrote:

US sucks that's why.


The US does not suck just the mass transit. What reason do you think that it is subpar compared to Europe?


Health care, less violent crimes, better education system, better food. I could go on.


The only thing you are correct on is violent crime. Everything else is on par with Europe or better. Our university system is the best in the world theirs a reason millions of foreigners flock to US universities as foreign exchange students. Food totally subjective their is good food everywhere. Health care again we lead the world in new drug development and have some of the best hospitals.



To biscuitnote - I agree with you on all counts save one. The high speed rail project. Milwaukee had a high speed rail (at the time)
running from Downtown Milwaukee to Great Lakes Navel Base then on to Chicago. Started in 1916
It ceased operation in 1963 due to lack of ridership. I think it was called the North Shore Line.
As long as america has that love of cars and cheap gas high speed rail is at a disadvantage.
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Posted 2/5/16

ignitingmemories wrote:

But sim city is a game Lol


So is Flight Simulator right? Sim City is a city building simulation series, so similarly there's something minimal to be learned at very least.
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The best thing is how educated the drivers are in the US, and how polite, good thinking and very skilled in driving cars.

and by no means make the children very safe, and so by going off the school busses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kpCr7XZK00

and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9mimYsxBL8
YT is so usefull XP...
anyway why america does these stops has to be this way?...

and this one is amazing for one that has been driving for 30 years...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UTM40K53K8
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With the US being so big, it's terribly expensive to upgrade transport infrastructure (cost increases exponentially with size increase). The federal government handles the interstate transportation, but leaver inner state roads to the states, who then leave public transportation to the cities. The problem with this is that both states and cities are required to balance their budget while the federal government is not. This means that states and cities have to cut costs somewhere. If their transportation is at least usable, then no need to replace or improve it when there are other things to spend money on.
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The USA is huge. The answer is that simple, really. It'd be impossible to have public transit outside of major cities as convenient as those in smaller countries based on that fact alone. Major US cites do have good public transit btw.
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We're a car culture
NYC has a good subway system.
It might smell and be full of unsavory characters but it gets the job done
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USA isn't very good with transportation as it's not as densely populated as a smaller country say Japan for example. Public transportation only works well if there are lots of people headed to the same area. USA is all really spread apart, being such a huge country, which means there are not alot of people headed in the same direction. USA expects that most people just drive automobiles everywhere. Unlike somewhere like say Japan where the place is so densely populated most people take the subway lines, the result is Japan has adapted to everyone using using the subway, and thus, there's like hundreds of subways that take you literally everywhere, same thing with buses. USA on the other hand, cause they expect everyone has an automobile, does not have such a complex subway system that can take you literally everywhere, the result is you need an automobile all the freaking time in USA.
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I think it really depends in what city you live in, or in what region. There are some really good public transportation systems out there. You just got to be lucky to live in one of those cities.
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biscuitnote wrote:
Is it a financial thing, or just US officials being against public transit?

Seriously, nearly every public transit project in smaller cities have been put on hold. Remember when we were going to get high speed rail in Wisconsin? And then it gets cancelled. And at the same time, two lines on the Prague Metro get expanded/extended.


Correct answer: A, although B is acceptable because of A.
In a large continent-sized country, nobody really takes cross-country rail when the airlines get there faster and cheaper--as opposed to a nice small insular country like Japan, where they live by the trains--making it that only the East coast Boston/NY/DC/Philadelphia routes that do big business with the business commuters. (And, not coincidentally, DC lawmakers.)
Amtrak was broken off from government funding to be a semi-private company like the post office, so there's no state supported transit, and its own business has to pull its weight.

As for city transit, those are handled by the cities, who usually have a hard enough job keeping the schools and hospitals funded, and don't have much left for a system that keeps needing mechanical repairs.
Unlike Prague, we're not used to the idea of having a state government who Makes The Trains Run On Time, if ya know what I mean.
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People have cars over there
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