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Why Do People Even Like Sena from Haganai Anyway?
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Posted 2/6/16 , edited 2/6/16
^ Umaru fucking Doma.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:
Utter nonsense.

A fundamental principle of 2D.
Posted 2/6/16
Her butterfly hair clip is pretty
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Posted 2/6/16 , edited 2/6/16
You ask why? Because she has nice body and oppai

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Posted 2/6/16 , edited 2/7/16
One other thing is, technically Sena isn't a pedophile.

Kobato is 14 and Sena is 17.
Posted 2/6/16

drninja wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:
Utter nonsense.

A fundamental principle of 2D.


So just because it's not wrong in their world doesn't mean we should find anything wrong with it ourselves? Poppycock. I don't care if it is a fictional Japan or real life Japan, it is disturbing to see so many people excuse a characters just because they're hot. I feel as if my views on it should be independent of the people involved in some cases. Now this may be my progressive western mindset at play, but I can't just take this as a joke when Kobato clearly doesn't consent to it, therefore making it a form of molestation. (Assuming said world has laws against the exploitation of minors.)


xxJing wrote:

One other thing is, technically Sena isn't a pedophile.

Kobato is 14 and Sena is 17.


Well, I was fooled. Pedophilia isn''t based on "age" however but on appearance associated with prepubescents. The only difference being that what Sena did would not be illegal if consensual, which it is not. Now we can't say for sure what happened, just the fact that Kobato ran out naked with a nude Sena chasing after her, but it is appropriate to ascertain based on prior actions it was something of a lewd nature with a lascivious intent behind it.
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Rika is the only good character in Haganai. Honestly, there is a huge list of reasons to hate Sena. I don't even remember the instance you are talking about, but she is just vile and unlikable in general.
Posted 2/6/16 , edited 2/6/16

sundin13 wrote:

Rika is the only good character in Haganai. Honestly, there is a huge list of reasons to hate Sena. I don't even remember the instance you are talking about, but she is just vile and unlikable in general.


You don't remember? It's where we see Kobato running out of a bath with Sena naked for an unseen transgression, with Sena following in pursuit, naked. It's one of few scenes where we see some ecchi in the series.
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As for why I like Sena. Her heart is in the right place, she is just clumsy with expressing her feelings. She is probably the one out of all the characters who most wants to be friends with everyone. Rika and Yukimura would be close seconds.

Kodaka and Yozora are my least favorite characters.

Yozora especially since she is the one character who actually tries to hinder everyone else just so she can advance her relationship with Kodaka. Sena never tried to go against anyone, she was trying to develop friendships with everyone and when she realized she liked Kodaka she just openly told him and everyone. Sena is the most pure-hearted of all the characters. She's just a bit too affectionate toward Kobato. It's not like she's trying to molest her or anything like that though, it's more of a doting type love.
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A: I try not to read too hard into material like this
B: No other character in the show felt the need to do anything about it
C: Isn't Sena designe to be rather unlikable? The Kobato thing just came across as another reason the viewers aren't suppose to like her to me.
D: Sena was my least favorite thing in the series anyway
Posted 2/6/16

xxJing wrote:

As for why I like Sena. Her heart is in the right place, she is just clumsy with expressing her feelings. She is probably the one out of all the characters who most wants to be friends with everyone. Rika and Yukimura would be close seconds.

Kodaka and Yozora are my least favorite characters.

Yozora especially since she is the one character who actually tries to hinder everyone else just so she can advance her relationship with Kodaka. Sena never tried to go against anyone, she was trying to develop friendships with everyone and when she realized she liked Kodaka she just openly told him and everyone. Sena is the most pure-hearted of all the characters. She's just a bit too affectionate toward Kobato. It's not like she's trying to molest her or anything like that though, it's more of a doting type love.


Doting? It's creepy. If this were a reverse harem she'd be the most hated character. Now I wouldn't consider it out of the realm of possibility that Sena might not have done anything wrong, at least legally speaking, but when someone is so uncomfortable with you that they rather NOT hang out of you, and not to mention the person acts like and looks like a minor, and you coerce that person into a bath only to violate their trust, that's just wrong on so many levels.


I could see where Sena is coming from, being a lolicon and all that, but once you begin treating a person as an object of desire (Sure, Koboato isn't real, but she's real in the world of Haganai, versus fictional lolicon art, in which the girls drawn are in fact sexual objects you can lewdly stare at all you want.) that's kind of where I began to feel a little disturbed.


Now here's where Haganai went wrong. It's so unabashedly and not at all shamefully aware of the bias towards the mysterious and beautiful student (although not a transfer perse.) That her development isn't at all played for Drama, versus Yozora, who's more of the bitch of the series, presenting an otherwise idealized romance. In essence, it feels too perfect that Kodaka feels more like an audience surrogate than he should've been, if we're counting everything before Rika started being a viable dating option.

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Doting? It's creepy. If this were a reverse harem she'd be the most hated character. Now I wouldn't consider it out of the realm of possibility that Sena might not have done anything wrong, at least legally speaking, but when someone is so uncomfortable with you that they rather NOT hang out of you, and not to mention the person acts like and looks like a minor, and you coerce that person into a bath only to violate their trust, that's just wrong on so many levels.



If this were a reverse harem she'd be a 17 year old guy, and Kobato would be a 14 year old shota. Fujoshi would eat up the BL implications. Sena would be loved a thousand times more than she is now.

If Sena was a guy and Kobato was a girl, Haganai would probably sell 10x more than it did.

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Maybe for the same reason why you, a sexual harasser and pervert, is popular; entertainment. You proclaim an imouto fetish, remember? That translates into incest and potential child molestation/pedophilia. Whether your so-called tastes are true or not, your reputation lends this thread hilarity.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

So just because it's not wrong in their world doesn't mean we should find anything wrong with it ourselves?

If you want anime to be exactly like Western media then maybe you should just go watch Western media instead.


xxJing wrote:

One other thing is, technically Sena isn't a pedophile.

Kobato is 14 and Sena is 17.

They are not real people.
Posted 2/6/16

drninja wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

So just because it's not wrong in their world doesn't mean we should find anything wrong with it ourselves?

If you want anime to be exactly like Western media then maybe you should just go watch Western media instead.


xxJing wrote:

One other thing is, technically Sena isn't a pedophile.

Kobato is 14 and Sena is 17.

They are not real people.


Oh, I forgot, I argued with you on culture imperialism and why apparently I can't judge something from the different perspective of an outsider just because I wasn't born there. Yeah, okay.
Posted 2/6/16 , edited 2/6/16

aeb0717 wrote:

Maybe for the same reason why you, a sexual harasser and pervert, is popular; entertainment. You proclaim an imouto fetish, remember? That translates into incest and potential child molestation/pedophilia. Whether your so-called tastes are true or not, your reputation lends this thread hilarity.


I'm a chivalrous pervert of the highest order, and I resent that comment that I sexually harass! Someone back me up here. I clearly never molested anyone with my hands, nor do I or have I sexually harass forum women!


Although you may have a point with "played for comedy".
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