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Let me know if a thread like this one exist or not.
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As weird as this sounds, I keep having this feeling like a manga is going to have either a good ending or terrible ending before it even ends. Why I have this feeling I do not know. Majority of it is a feeling that it will end badly. I make up my own scenarios, theories, and etc as to how the ending will be. And hope that the creator of the manga goes in that direction. But I doubt that he or she would. I keep reading the manga in hopes that my feelings are wrong but they get stronger as I read more chapters. What are your thoughts on this? Am I worrying over nothing? Does this make a lick of sense? Should I just get over my feelings and enjoy the manga regardless of how it ends? Advice needed.


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Eh.. It's not weird at all.. When writing is formulaic it becomes predictable. Even when not adhering to a well-trod plot archetype, an author's overall intent can still be discernible to readers if they don't make an effort to conceal it.

Which is to say, whatever ending the author is aiming for, readers can often tell ahead of time based on the tone and other aspects of the story.

After all, the term "plot twist" exists for when authors buck these audience expectations by taking a sudden turn that defies prior supposition.

Essentially, your intuition is telling you the author is leading toward a bad ending, while you consciously desire a happier one and continue reading partly in the hope that the author will ultimately accommodate that desire due to your emotional investment in the story and/or characters.
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It's pretty common to come up with your own conclusions based on evidence provided in earlier content. Not to mention it's pretty easy to tell where an author is going with it. Especially if it's following a norm or set formula as iriomote pointed out.

I do the same thing when it comes to football. Except I'll bet on games... lol
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iriomote wrote:

Eh.. It's not weird at all.. When writing is formulaic it becomes predictable. Even when not adhering to a well-trod plot archetype, an author's overall intent can still be discernible to readers if they don't make an effort to conceal it.

Which is to say, whatever ending the author is aiming for, readers can often tell ahead of time based on the tone and other aspects of the story.

After all, the term "plot twist" exists for when authors buck these audience expectations by taking a sudden turn that defies prior supposition.

Essentially, your intuition is telling you the author is leading toward a bad ending, while you consciously desire a happier one and continue reading partly in the hope that the author will ultimately accommodate that desire due to your emotional investment in the story and/or characters.


I can't help it because I want to believe that a good ending is waiting to happen but I just get a bad feeling there will be a bad one.


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Read VNs, you won't have this problem.
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Nyanotic wrote:

Read VNs, you won't have this problem.


Where do I even go to read a VN?
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qualeshia3 wrote:


Nyanotic wrote:

Read VNs, you won't have this problem.


Where do I even go to read a VN?


There are a lot on Steam I have noticed.
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Ravenstein wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:


Nyanotic wrote:

Read VNs, you won't have this problem.


Where do I even go to read a VN?


There are a lot on Steam I have noticed.


Okay. Thanks.
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Ravenstein wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:


Nyanotic wrote:

Read VNs, you won't have this problem.


Where do I even go to read a VN?


There are a lot on Steam I have noticed.


Yeah but if your looking for a VN that's uncut steam isn't a good choice.
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qualeshia3 wrote:


Nyanotic wrote:

Read VNs, you won't have this problem.


Where do I even go to read a VN?


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Posted 2/11/16
Why would you want to get over it?

Just do what you want to do. Some of us have some odd behaviors when reading a story. I, for example, have this weird OCD where I need to read every single word in the anime's dialogue, otherwise I can't enjoy the show until the end.

I like to go to the cinema early, because if I miss 30 seconds of the beginning, I can't enjoy the movie. I have this mentality where I like to believe that the creator has put importance into every word, every scene from beginning to end, so I like to enjoy all of it and be able to deduce meanings, cues and whatever from all the information gathered.

Does this make a lick of sense to you?
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I guess the question is, what do you mean by "good" and "bad" ends?

Do you mean a "good" end as a conclusion were things are more or less alright in the end? The character(s) achieve their goal and a minimum of people are killed is a "good" end and a bad one is where a maximum of characters die, or the main character(s) fails to achieve their goal in a positive manner? Because if you which direction it's going to go, that's just tone doing it's job. Certain types of works have requirements of them, including the endings, and you can generally guess these from the beginning of the show. This isn't a bad thing! It's just conventional - and while you can pull off doing the opposite, it can easily fail.

To use an example - the first two anime to come to mind are Haikyuu!! and Sword of the Stranger. I know one of these isn't finished and the other is a movie, not a series, but bear with. Haikyuu!! is a shounen sports anime - it has a bright colour palette, vivacious movement and character design, and has strong themes of determination, friendship, and hard work. You can tell pretty much from the beginning that yeah, they're going to go to Nationals and they'll get to play against their rival team there. No one's going to die or get hurt worse than a broken tooth - at least, most likely nothing that will cause them to be unable to play. Sword of the Stranger is a jidaigeki with a subdued colour palette and a more down-to-earth style. Plus, the first things we see (more or less) is a monastery being burned to the ground as a child runs from danger and the Ming using themselves as their own shields while Luolang slaughters like twenty people. Given this - and spoiler for a seven year old movie - you're not really surprised when virtually everyone gets killed. And even then, the movie isn't a complete shock-horror type - it knows not to kill the dog, or even to hurt the child main character more than a couple blows. Because doing either of these things would have been a betrayal of its tone and genre conventions.

Now switch those endings? Everyone in Haikyuu winds up dying or killing each other, or at least forced to give up their goals, and Sword of the Stranger ends with a practice match. And no other elements are changed. You'd hate the shows, right? Because in those cases, the climax wasn't built anything - they would have come out of the blue and not been justified by plot, theme, or genre. So if this "good/bad" ending is what you meant, then it shouldn't be a problem - the creators are doing their jobs and you're picking up on tone and convention!

If you meant "good/bad" in terms of quality? Then you're probably just guessing based on what you've read so far and what previous series you've read. In which case - I think my only advice is to find better manga to read!
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Posted 2/12/16
Ever since I finished Madoka Magica years ago, I've actually hoped MORE anime or mangas have a bad/bittersweet endings
A happy ending just doesn't appeal to me anymore
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Yuki_Narukami wrote:

Ever since I finished Madoka Magica years ago, I've actually hoped MORE anime or mangas have a bad/bittersweet endings
A happy ending just doesn't appeal to me anymore


I don't mind a happy ending. It just has to make sense. A gruesome bittersweet ending is key for certain dark anime/manga series.
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