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Canada allows importing of guns that are banned in the US. You'd think those guns would be going here, not our guns going there.
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uuum canada is a just a made-up place, why ya'll treatin it like it's real?
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Blame Canada Blame Canada Blame Canada Blame Canada
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Nogara-san wrote:


VeggyZ wrote:

I can't wait to see what happens when our entire continent is neutered.

When they try to take the guns from America, there will be a lot of unrest - and Obama will enact martial law. He'll get his third term in office and the 99% will be literal slaves instead of just figurative slaves. What really sucks is that the whole world will be on this boat.

I hope the thoughts I just put into words are wrong, but it seems like the entire world is ducks in a row. I don't care if you hate guns or if you love them - if people with guns are threatening you, you're going to need them to have a glimmer of hope.

These are depressing times.


Oh for fuck's sake...

....Obummer ain't taking your guns. The NRA and the American public would rather watch the slaughter of innocent people in your local elementary school than put the tiniest bit of gun control.


Canada is about to learn from America Nii-san all about glorious guns and freedoms!




I wasn't glorifying guns, I was stating facts. It's about more than just losing something that we want to hold on to - we're losing our only way of defending ourselves. I am not a gun owner personally so what you're saying there doesn't really apply to me at all, so please, spare me.

Do you think the government isn't going to label every single person who doesn't like it if martial law is enacted a dissident? I wish I had that kind of faith in other human beings. I'm not trying to glorify guns, but I am stating what is happening right now. I don't really care if you agree, watch the news. History has shown us what happens when a populace can't defend itself against it's, uh, defenders. It isn't good, it ends in genocide, among other things.

This has been years in the making, it's not some revelation i just had, just now while I was watching some anime - taking away america's guns is going to cause problems, it is causing problems. Local militias clashing with other militias because the government is using eminent domain to take land people have used to raise their cattle for their entire lives, and they aren't happy. Every little incident gets America that much closer to having it's guns taken, and it's not going to be pretty, for numerous reasons.

The groundwork is already taken care of - the facilities to handle a disobedient public are already around and ready to accept inmates. They're in every part of the country and they've been waiting to cut that ribbon. It's too bad it isn't just the people that will try to hold on to their guns that are going to populate them.

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good. when is the united states going to do something.
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I feel like I should also mention one more thing about the gun situation in the US - my family are gun owners. We've never perpetrated a violent crime. When I was child, I was also UNABLE TO ACCESS THE FIREARMS AROUND ME, AS IT SHOULD BE. Grabbing my parents guns was never an option for me because my parents did that whole parenting thing that seems lost to the rest of the country, and were generally intelligent people. They locked them up, which is what everyone is supposed to be doing, so those high schoolers that they didn't spend a minute raising can't grab them and massacre people.

What blows my mind is that guns are so accessible to people who aren't supposed to have them. It's clear how they get them too, almost always negligent gun owners. I wouldn't mind stiffer gun control laws, because I'm confident that I could pass them, but I would also like to retain the right to buy and own one, as a last line of defense.

Then again, a lot of the people we really don't want having guns, are going to have them regardless of what a law says.
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"Learn to take responsibility for yourself, Canada. "

Well... not that you are wrong... but you are not quite right either.

America does have a lot of guns, and guess what. Some of those make it over the border. Black markets exist for many reasons.

In Canada, if you need a gun it is likely for just hunting or sport shooting. There are plenty of legal ways to get guns for this.

The only people who use the black market for guns are the criminals and people who don't give a shit about our stupid laws and just want to own a certain gun. (i.e collectors)

Here is the nitty gritty truth to it all. The only way such a black market were to ever be quashed and rid of for good, is if we were to just let everyone have guns.

Now, that obviously isn't going to fly with everyone, but then, that's why we have the problem we have now.

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VeggyZ wrote:

I can't wait to see what happens when our entire continent is neutered.

When they try to take the guns from America, there will be a lot of unrest - and Obama will enact martial law. He'll get his third term in office and the 99% will be literal slaves instead of just figurative slaves. What really sucks is that the whole world will be on this boat.

I hope the thoughts I just put into words are wrong, but it seems like the entire world is ducks in a row. I don't care if you hate guns or if you love them - if people with guns are threatening you, you're going to need them to have a glimmer of hope.

These are depressing times.


After managing to somehow use a Jedi mind trick to get around the limitations imposed on the federal government's domestic use of the military by Posse Comitatus the President would have to have either a 2/3 majority in both houses of the legislature calling for repeal of the second amendment or 2/3 of the state legislatures calling for such an amendment in order to even begin to travel down the road you're worrying about. The President plays no part in either amendment process, and so has a limited ability to impact its initiation and progress in either case. The next step in the first process is to pass along the proposed amendment to the state legislatures through the governors' offices, 3/4 of which (38 states) must approve the amendment. It is a guarantee that you will exceed 12 when counting the number of states that would object to passing an amendment that nullifies the second, let alone one that does that while simultaneously granting the military unlimited policing power.

In other words, the regulatory landscape of the US and its cultural landscape render your fears impossible to realise. The most popular presidents in history couldn't have done it. The closest anyone ever came to it was the Lincoln administration's suppression of pro-Confederate factions and newspapers. There's plenty to be critical of as far as the Obama administration's use of the defence and intelligence communities are concerned. This isn't one of those things.
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BlueOni wrote:


VeggyZ wrote:

I can't wait to see what happens when our entire continent is neutered.

When they try to take the guns from America, there will be a lot of unrest - and Obama will enact martial law. He'll get his third term in office and the 99% will be literal slaves instead of just figurative slaves. What really sucks is that the whole world will be on this boat.

I hope the thoughts I just put into words are wrong, but it seems like the entire world is ducks in a row. I don't care if you hate guns or if you love them - if people with guns are threatening you, you're going to need them to have a glimmer of hope.

These are depressing times.


After managing to somehow use a Jedi mind trick to get around the limitations imposed on the federal government's domestic use of the military by Posse Comitatus the President would have to have either a 2/3 majority in both houses of the legislature calling for repeal of the second amendment or 2/3 of the state legislatures calling for such an amendment in order to even begin to travel down the road you're worrying about. The President plays no part in either amendment process, and so has a limited ability to impact its initiation and progress in either case. The next step in the first process is to pass along the proposed amendment to the state legislatures through the governors' offices, 3/4 of which (38 states) must approve the amendment. It is a guarantee that you will exceed 12 when counting the number of states that would object to passing an amendment that nullifies the second, let alone one that does that while simultaneously granting the military unlimited policing power.

In other words, the regulatory landscape of the US and its cultural landscape render your fears impossible to realise. The most popular presidents in history couldn't have done it. The closest anyone ever came to it was the Lincoln administration's suppression of pro-Confederate factions and newspapers. There's plenty to be critical of as far as the Obama administration's use of the defence and intelligence communities are concerned. This isn't one of those things.


there are always ways around that. hell, how many veterans got PTSD and had their rights to the second ammendment taken away.... and lets not forget gun control laws run contary to the idea behind the 2nd. 'to create a milita of the united states' kinda encourages hi cap mags and full auto assult rifles.
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Too bad. Our border is flooded with diseased illegal invaders, so we can flood Canada's with guns. Fair is fair.
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They'll live.
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Canada needs to build a wall and make the US pay for it.

I've heard from some reliable sources that that helps stop illegal activities.
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there are always ways around that. hell, how many veterans got PTSD and had their rights to the second ammendment taken away.


Yeah, the fact that people who are often violently triggered by the presence of things that remind them of war - especially things like the sound of gunshots - aren't allowed to have guns is a real tragedy.
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sundin13 wrote:


nemoskull wrote:
there are always ways around that. hell, how many veterans got PTSD and had their rights to the second ammendment taken away.


Yeah, the fact that people who are often violently triggered by the presence of things that remind them of war - especially things like the sound of gunshots - aren't allowed to have guns is a real tragedy.


im not talking about that. example, in az, any stay in a mental hospital for any reason puts you on the prohibited user list pretty much forever.
im just saying you dont need to repeal the 2nd to get guns away from people. how many states prohibit open carry?
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Nogara-san wrote:


VeggyZ wrote:

I can't wait to see what happens when our entire continent is neutered.

When they try to take the guns from America, there will be a lot of unrest - and Obama will enact martial law. He'll get his third term in office and the 99% will be literal slaves instead of just figurative slaves. What really sucks is that the whole world will be on this boat.

I hope the thoughts I just put into words are wrong, but it seems like the entire world is ducks in a row. I don't care if you hate guns or if you love them - if people with guns are threatening you, you're going to need them to have a glimmer of hope.

These are depressing times.


Oh for fuck's sake...

....Obummer ain't taking your guns. The NRA and the American public would rather watch the slaughter of innocent people in your local elementary school than put the tiniest bit of gun control.


Canada is about to learn from America Nii-san all about glorious guns and freedoms!




Correct! I agree. A few elementary schools children dying is a sad point, but you are right, staying free for the future of all children is more important. I suggest no gun control laws, however for evey individual a perp kills, means one member of their immediate family is executed with them. We need to go hard core on this. The pussy gun nuts and liberals are missing the point, human life is only worth about $20, and should be treated as such. We are waaay overly sensitive to death. Our ancestors are laughing at our weakness. The Chinese understand this very well, which is why they are taking it all. The Chinese understand that human life is cheap, cheap, cheap. Good thing they'll be in charge in a few years. However they are very good at what they do. First they'll disarm the local population then slaughter the nay Sayers. This is how a high population country should be run, North America is no different. Friggin gun nuts and liberal pussies.... Freedom is only for small population countries, once you get to a certain population, freedom and self defense must be squelched in order to make society run smoothly. This will cause a revolt but it must be done, first the population must be disarmed, then the nay sayers and overly conservative and liberal people must gathered up and executed. Those who are religious and don't fit the state social policy must be reprogrammed. The programs for non-violence and compliance must be taught to youth at an early age in order to reduce violence and possible rebellion. With our population approaching 7 billion, the people must be controlled and made to obey, otherwise more will die in the end. Gun control isn't enough, we must also control thought and child rearing. Anything else isn't enough.
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