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Ok just who the heck's lying... None of these stupid news outlets are helping, all they're doing is printing and re-printing the "lying lying lying" over and over without saying who is lying and who isn't.

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Who is lying? Is it Cruz lying or Trump lying about Cruz lying? Heck it can't be BOTH


They are politicians. Whenever their mouths are open they are lying. That's all politicians, Cruz, Clinton, Trump, Sanders, Rubio etc. You assume that one or the other is truthful, WRONG!!!! In ancient Mesopotamian the word Politician comes from the root word meaning to habitually lie. Thus liar = politician and politician = liar, it's that simple.
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it's politics son
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nanikore2 wrote:

Ok just who the heck's lying... None of these stupid news outlets are helping, all they're doing is printing and re-printing the "lying lying lying" over and over without saying who is lying and who isn't.

Gee thanks. Maybe CR would be more helpful

Who is lying? Is it Cruz lying or Trump lying about Cruz lying? Heck it can't be BOTH


They are politicians. Whenever their mouths are open they are lying. That's all politicians, Cruz, Clinton, Trump, Sanders, Rubio etc. You assume that one or the other is truthful, WRONG!!!! In ancient Mesopotamian the word Politician comes from the root word meaning to habitually lie. Thus liar = politician and politician = liar, it's that simple.


Most of the media stories are shite but I've finally found ONE that appears to say something at last:

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/17/ted-cruz-rebuffs-donald-trump-ad-lawsuit-threat/

if NYT is right on this, and IF they're telling the whole story, then Trump is lying about Cruz lying.


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it's politics son


See NYT story above... It appears they're implying that Trump is lying.
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Everyone lies during the campaign. The real fun begins once they secure office and start actually doing things.
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You make it seem like one of them has to be telling the truth. This is a Republican primary. That is a very dangerous way of thinking.
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You make it seem like one of them has to be telling the truth. This is a Republican primary. That is a very dangerous way of thinking.


That's not what I'm thinking at all............. All I'm seeing is these tons of headlines with no substance behind the articles which is extremely ANNOYING
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Steelmonk wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:

Ok just who the heck's lying... None of these stupid news outlets are helping, all they're doing is printing and re-printing the "lying lying lying" over and over without saying who is lying and who isn't.

Gee thanks. Maybe CR would be more helpful

Who is lying? Is it Cruz lying or Trump lying about Cruz lying? Heck it can't be BOTH


They are politicians. Whenever their mouths are open they are lying. That's all politicians, Cruz, Clinton, Trump, Sanders, Rubio etc. You assume that one or the other is truthful, WRONG!!!! In ancient Mesopotamian the word Politician comes from the root word meaning to habitually lie. Thus liar = politician and politician = liar, it's that simple.


Most of the media stories are shite but I've finally found ONE that appears to say something at last:

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/17/ted-cruz-rebuffs-donald-trump-ad-lawsuit-threat/

if NYT is right on this, and IF they're telling the whole story, then Trump is lying about Cruz lying.


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it's politics son


See NYT story above... It appears they're implying that Trump is lying.


Once again you are trying to find truth in a stack of lies. Why seek truth among lies? You know what truth is? Truth is Ryuji loves Taiga from Tora Dora.
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Once again you are trying to find truth in a stack of lies. Why seek truth among lies? You know what truth is? Truth is Ryuji loves Taiga from Tora Dora.


That's what those news headlines want me to do, not really seek truth but find out what the heck is behind that link

And when I get NOTHING behind that link..........
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you mean at the moment?
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That's what those news headlines want me to do, not really seek truth but find out what the heck is behind that link

And when I get NOTHING behind that link..........


There's way too much lying on both sides to properly explain in a single news article. My post on the previous page is basically a quick summary of what they're lying about. I could look up details about every lie for you, but that will take too much time so I won't do that right now.

For now, you can read about one of the many issues they're fighting about here:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/24/donald-trump/donald-trump-calls-out-ted-cruz-ad-about-trump-bul/

This one's about Trump's use of eminent domain. One of Cruz's latest ad claims Trump used eminent domain for his own personal gain. The example he cited was actually a case where Trump failed. While trump absolutely loves using eminent domain, Cruz's example didn't accurately portray that since that was a case in which Trump tried getting the government to kick a lady out of her house to build over it, but the lady won in court and so nothing came out of it. Then Trump tried claiming he backed away since he wasn't interested in her house anymore, but he only did that after the court ruled against him.

Trump is right in saying Cruz's attack ad falsely accuses Trump of using eminent domain against that woman. However, the ad also correctly implies that Trump is a bully who's very intention was to use the government to force a single woman off her property just for his own personal gain. They both stretch the truth to the point where neither of them are honest, but their stories still have bits of truth in them.

I'll probably go find you some details for another argument they're currently having some other time.
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This is one of the reasons I (currently) support Rubio; all this bickering just damages the Republican Party. There is no way Trump can unify the party and Cruz - as he showed during HIS shutdown debacle - cares more about himself (being president) than the party or the country.
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Neither. Both of them are annoying.
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Its a sociopath vs a narcissist competing for the hateful, sweaty taint of America.

Its probably best to just back away slowly and don't make any sudden movements.
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nanikore2 wrote:

That's what those news headlines want me to do, not really seek truth but find out what the heck is behind that link

And when I get NOTHING behind that link..........


There's way too much lying on both sides to properly explain in a single news article. My post on the previous page is basically a quick summary of what they're lying about. I could look up details about every lie for you, but that will take too much time so I won't do that right now.

For now, you can read about one of the many issues they're fighting about here:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/24/donald-trump/donald-trump-calls-out-ted-cruz-ad-about-trump-bul/

This one's about Trump's use of eminent domain. One of Cruz's latest ad claims Trump used eminent domain for his own personal gain. The example he cited was actually a case where Trump failed. While trump absolutely loves using eminent domain, Cruz's example didn't accurately portray that since that was a case in which Trump tried getting the government to kick a lady out of her house to build over it, but the lady won in court and so nothing came out of it. Then Trump tried claiming he backed away since he wasn't interested in her house anymore, but he only did that after the court ruled against him.

Trump is right in saying Cruz's attack ad falsely accuses Trump of using eminent domain against that woman. However, the ad also correctly implies that Trump is a bully who's very intention was to use the government to force a single woman off her property just for his own personal gain. They both stretch the truth to the point where neither of them are honest, but their stories still have bits of truth in them.

I'll probably go find you some details for another argument they're currently having some other time.


Okay you've got a point. Looks like they're both stinkers
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