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^ (rolls eyes) Thank you for joining this millennium.
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Well unfortunately I don't think anyone will be surprised by this. ISIS don't need a motive or a reason to kill, they just need the means.
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I very much doubt it has anything to do with the music, I suspect they needed the shock value.
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runec wrote:

Dude, it's ISIS.

They're about as indicative of Islam as Timothy McVeigh is of Christianity.





Your analogy doesn't work here because, while there are Americans and other Westerners that have nutsy ideas, they're not forming a huge militia to travel around the world, subjecting those to their beliefs and killing those that won't follow. I don't see large hoards of Christians, Jews or Buddhists committing the same atrocities that ISIS is anywhere in the world.






Oh good, you know history. You don't see them doing this recently do you?
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People realize the Christian Crusades was started because of MUSLIM CONQUEST, right?

It became corrupt and terrible like all wars do eventually, but it was first and foremost started to one, kick the Muslims back out of Jerusalem after they invaded and kicked everyone out, and two, to stop the Muslims from invading into Europe, which they were attempting to do for their glorious Caliphate.

ISIS just turned up during the Syrian civil war, and used the power vacuum to try and create a new Caliphate, reclaiming the borders that were taken from the Ottoman Empire.

There is.... there is a subtle difference between the Holy Crusades and what ISIS is doing now. The other thing is, the Crusades was only indicative of one of the MANY denominations of Christianity. Crusades was fully sanctioned and pushed by the Pope and Catholics. The Spanish Inquisition was also Catholics. In fact most of the violent Christian incidences was pushed by Catholics, for whatever reason.
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Oh so we will see more bombs for our math problems?
So good to know that we can just destroy the numbers to fix the problems.

now just do it for everything else "modern", music, culture, teaching and so on.
Then we could have an epic blast of cleaning the sheets for the upcoming leader Ackbar!
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I agree that the Crusades were necessary to protect the Christians from Muslim aggression. Let's not also forget that the Battle of Lepanto also prevented Muslim expansion in Europe.

But some. Catholics and Protestants have done some horrible things in the same of religion.
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But the problem is that there is a large portion of the population in Western countries that not only support what ISIS believes in, but have gone or in the process of trying to go join them...including many Americans.


250 Americans to give the exact estimate by US intelligence agencies. 4500 is the estimated total for western countries. That is not even remotely a "large portion" of the population.



Akage-chan wrote: I don't see large hoards of Christians, Jews or Buddhists committing the same atrocities that ISIS is anywhere in the world.


Yes, you do. Anti-balaka, a Christian militant group in Africa, for example has gone so far as to not just massacre thousands of people but there's even been cases of cannibalism. And they don't bother with this whole kangaroo court execution thing. They just rip people apart in the streets until they are moist stains in the road.

Jews? There are a number of Jewish terrorist organizations operating in and around Israel and Palestine.

Buddists? Burma and Sri Lanka would like a word.


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250 Americans to give the exact estimate by US intelligence agencies. 4500 is the estimated total for western countries. That is not even remotely a "large portion" of the population.


If the US government can't track the amount of people illegally present in their country, what makes you think that this number is even remotely correct?



Yes, you do. Anti-balaka, a Christian militant group in Africa, for example has gone so far as to not just massacre thousands of people but there's even been cases of cannibalism. And they don't bother with this whole kangaroo court execution thing. They just rip people apart in the streets until they are moist stains in the road.

Jews? There are a number of Jewish terrorist organizations operating in and around Israel and Palestine.

Buddists? Burma and Sri Lanka would like a word.


Anti balaka is located in the CAR, an area of Africa that has had problems for decades. ISIS is located in Syria, Tunisia and Iraq. Not the same. ISIS has destroyed World Heritage sites. Anti Balaka has not. Not a good comparison.

So what if there are Jewish terrorist organizations? Are they going around the world, blowing up people because they're not Jews? Nope. Once again, not a good comparison to ISIS.

The conflict with the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka is over. They called a truce years ago. As for Burma, remind me again how many planes they're responsible for bringing down...?

Your comparisons are all poor. Please try again.

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If the US government can't track the amount of people illegally present in their country, what makes you think that this number is even remotely correct?


Okay, first of all, if you don't think US intelligence agencies can track this sort of thing then how the hell do you think your wild estimate of large groups of the population is even remotely correct? Do you seriously think you have a better handle on this than the CIA or the US military?

Second of all, the US government can and does track and estimate the amount of illegal immigrants in the country.




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Anti balaka is located in the CAR, an area of Africa that has had problems for decades. ISIS is located in Syria, Tunisia and Iraq. Not the same. ISIS has destroyed World Heritage sites. Anti Balaka has not. Not a good comparison.


And the Middle East HASN'T had problems for decades?! Also, what does location have to do with it? What does World Heritage sites have to do with it? You asked for Christians committing atrocities. You got them. Trying to blatantly move the goalposts now doesn't change anything.

Anti-balaka has eaten people too, and tore people apart limb from limb in the streets. ISIS hasn't. Does that mean ISIS is better? No, of course not. So why would you argue ISIS is somehow worse just because Anti-balaka hasn't destroyed any world heritage sites?



Akage-chan wrote:So what if there are Jewish terrorist organizations? Are they going around the world, blowing up people because they're not Jews? Nope. Once again, not a good comparison to ISIS.


Please demonstrate where ISIS is going around the world blowing up people who are not Muslim. ISIS's activities are largely confined to the Middle East and surrounding areas. Sure, they would LOVE to kill people in other countries but its not their focus so all they really do is try to encourage people in other countries to do it for them. Their focus right now is setting up their crazy caliphate in the Middle East.



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The conflict with the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka is over. They called a truce years ago. As for Burma, remind me again how many planes they're responsible for bringing down...?


I did not say the Tamil Tigers. They were not Buddist. They attacked Buddhists.

Extremist Buddhists are currently responsible for a number of attacks and murders throughout South and Eastern Asia.

And how many planes is ISIS responsible for bringing down? One.




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Your comparisons are all poor. Please try again.


My comparisons are all valid. You asked for other religions committing atrocities in the modern world. You got it. Now you're just moving goal posts to avoid having to admit maybe you don't know everything there is to know about the world.

ISIS is not unique. They are not a supervillain. The only reason they loom in your mind is because US politics and the US media have a vested interest in you being afraid of someone, angry at someone and having someone to blame for your problems. For the media its just ratings. For politicians its votes and passing overreaching legislation the general public would never allow normally while benefiting the military industrial complex.

Right now its ISIS, Islam and Mexicans. Before this it was Al-Qaeda, Iraq and Mexicans. Before that it was Taliban, Afghanistan and Mexicans. Before that it was Saddam, Iraq/Iran and Mexicans. Before that it was Soviets, Communism and Mexicans. Before that it was Soviets, Vietnam and Mexicans. Before that it was Germany, Japan and the Japanese. Before that it was Germany, Ottomans and Germans.

I can keep winding back if you like.

Terrorism only works if you are afraid of it. If you give it the attention it wants. If you change the way you do things and live your life because of it. And holy shit has America played right into that since 9/11.
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It horrifies me still, but it doesn't surprise me anymore after all the news stories.
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I can understand them killing him for listening to who he did.
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D4nc3Style wrote:


nemoskull wrote:


Akage-chan wrote:


runec wrote:

Dude, it's ISIS.

They're about as indicative of Islam as Timothy McVeigh is of Christianity.





Your analogy doesn't work here because, while there are Americans and other Westerners that have nutsy ideas, they're not forming a huge militia to travel around the world, subjecting those to their beliefs and killing those that won't follow. I don't see large hoards of Christians, Jews or Buddhists committing the same atrocities that ISIS is anywhere in the world.






Oh good, you know history. You don't see them doing this recently do you?


How many priest sexual abused kids and how many of the powers that be within the church infrastructure covered it up? Do we say all Christians are child abusers? Also, that is in the very recent history and present.
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Imperiex wrote:

People realize the Christian Crusades was started because of MUSLIM CONQUEST, right?



No, they don't.

They "understand" ISIS just about as much as they understand the Crusades.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
Posted 2/22/16
How can someone be so delusion to follow stupid shit like this. It's sad because it's not 'someone', it's many people.
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