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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_(fishing)

but you could say it can be used for both the creature and fishing even though the fishing might be more "right" but I feel a troll seems more in "character"?
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The origins of the term Troll came from the fishing term "Trolling" because the people who did it basically dangle baited messages in an attempt to get a reaction out of anyone in a forum.

It caught on not because of Scandinavian trolls, but because of the infamous troll in the basement in the game Zork which everyone remembered.

Agent provocateur would be a similar concept...
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Sir_jamesalot wrote:


Rowan93 wrote:


bronzefoot wrote:

i want a new name for online idiots as I don't like the way a brilliant charcter from Scandanavian folklore and childerns stories has been hijacked and demeaned.

Any suggestions appreciated.


I don't like the way this term from internet parlance has been hijacked and demeaned by normies so that it just means "online idiots". Trolling is a art.


I don't envy someone that's impressed by bottom feeders.


You don't have to be impressed by a art to acknowledge that its practitioners are in fact practising a art. By analogy, if I had no respect for rappers, that would be a matter of personal taste, but saying "rap isn't an art form" would verge onto ignorance.

Although, I should perhaps clarify what the hell I'm talking about when I say "trolling": Sending death threats on the internet is not trolling, not by the definition I use. A rickroll is trolling, and other such pranks. This can extend to meanness, but that ranges from hazing to a sort of "you're supposed to groan, not laugh" thing like with bad puns and such. Unfortunately, Eternal September has been happening everywhere for 22 years, and it gets worse as the years go on (we're still in the exponential growth part of the S-curve), so the noobs aren't being hazed during entry into the existing culture, they're flooding it and redefining everything to suit their tastes, thus trolling becomes bullying and/or stupidity and/or "disagreeing with me".
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Rowan93 wrote:


Sir_jamesalot wrote:


Rowan93 wrote:


bronzefoot wrote:

i want a new name for online idiots as I don't like the way a brilliant charcter from Scandanavian folklore and childerns stories has been hijacked and demeaned.

Any suggestions appreciated.


I don't like the way this term from internet parlance has been hijacked and demeaned by normies so that it just means "online idiots". Trolling is a art.


I don't envy someone that's impressed by bottom feeders.


You don't have to be impressed by a art to acknowledge that its practitioners are in fact practising a art. By analogy, if I had no respect for rappers, that would be a matter of personal taste, but saying "rap isn't an art form" would verge onto ignorance.

Although, I should perhaps clarify what the hell I'm talking about when I say "trolling": Sending death threats on the internet is not trolling, not by the definition I use. A rickroll is trolling, and other such pranks. This can extend to meanness, but that ranges from hazing to a sort of "you're supposed to groan, not laugh" thing like with bad puns and such. Unfortunately, Eternal September has been happening everywhere for 22 years, and it gets worse as the years go on (we're still in the exponential growth part of the S-curve), so the noobs aren't being hazed during entry into the existing culture, they're flooding it and redefining everything to suit their tastes, thus trolling becomes bullying and/or stupidity and/or "disagreeing with me".


A word becomes how it is commonly used.
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Sir_jamesalot wrote:



A word becomes how it is commonly used.


Which is why I've avoided saying anything about what the word "really means", or any other such prescriptivist nonsense.

However, I will contend that when a word formerly had a specific, nuanced meaning that fills a niche in the language, and the new meaning is broad and barely has any real meaning or substance and is interchangeable with many other words that have suffered the same fate, the language is the worse for this.
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