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People say slaughters can't happen with knives.... Oh yeah? Read this...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/indian-man-stabs-14-family-members-to-death-hangs-self/

The people in the following story were the lucky ones (more or less):


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http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2016/02/23/students-stabbed-at-pickering-high-school.html

Time to ban knives.



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There was a tractor Slaughter in 2010 with well.....a TRACTOR. In China. Let me dig it up.

Although no gun limit advocate ever said slaughters can't happen with knive, but are less likely to happen. Remember that school stabbing? Would be much worst if he had a gun. Now this isn't an argument for or against gun rights or gun control, but in my experience, guns are deadlier. There was a school stabbing at my school, would've probably been much worst.

In essence, I think Pickering was an exception rather than a rule. You can't even compare a knife to a gun. So basically, YOUR example was an exception to the rule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Hebei_tractor_rampage
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US CDC says 37,000 emergency room visits each year in the USA are caused by NAIL GUNS.
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/nailgun/
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why stop there
lets ban cars, and childbirth while we're at it, after all these things also kill ppl
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Yea yea yea. You can kill anyone with anything if you are creative enough.

Guns make it very easy to kill someone. Knives make it easy too.. but it is much harder to kill someone with a knife than with a gun.

Edit for fun: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
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The difference between gun violence and knife violence is proximity to the person with the weapon. It is far easier to get away from someone wielding a knife than someone wielding a gun.

People who say that you can't have a slaughter with a knife are at worst misinformed. It is possible, it's just not nearly as easy as it is with a firearm.

Also the only slaughter in the news stories you posted was the first one in India. The second incident reported minor injuries most likely because the girl had to chase her victims down whereas in the Indian case the victims had been gathered together for a meal. So....ban eating meals together now? *shrug*
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Knives kill more people than RIFLES. A rifle isn't every firearm. Correct me if I am wrong.

Knives kill more than ASSAULT RIFLES. Read above. Lets combine the two under the title of guns. Lets add handguns too.

3 of these are in China. China has stricter gun laws. Less gun violence. Coincidence? I think NOT!

I heard of the top one.

You gotta try harder if you want to put on a concrete case. Yea knives may out-kill a single gun type... but put all the gun types together and it far surpasses it.

I will leave you with a quote. "98% of Statistics are a lie." This is because data can easily be manipulated. You gave me a great example with 2 of the links. Assault rifles and rifles. Forget shotguns, handguns, etc. Don't forget though, a majority of shootings are done WITH handguns. So you cut out a good portion of the stuff.

Come on man, try harder. I really want a good debate here.
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Knives are easier to get a hold of but guns are far more deadlier, depending on the firearm. Stop cherrypicking. If the Osaka guy had a gun he would've probably killed more people.

Not to mention students are generally banned from entering school ground with knives. One could argue that a knife free school is a massacre safe zone, but this is forgetting all the cases where a student was intercepted with a knife before he could do any harm. What, you want everyone to carry a knife to school?


Also, Infowars is not even close to a legitimate news source. It's a blog run by the likes of Alex Jones and friends, who believe in the coming of The New World Order. Again, he's full of bullshit.


Who knows, that link could very well prove gun laws are working. After all, again, knives are easier to get hold of.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-20
Just for the sake of argument, here's the link IW was linking towards, which I admit, seems legitimate.


Edit: Though it seems to prove what Alma was saying, I.E. that combined together firearms outpaced knives exponentially.
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Knives are easier to get a hold of but guns are far more deadlier, depending on the firearm. Stop cherrypicking. If the Osaka guy had a gun he would've probably killed more people.

Not to mention students are generally banned from entering school ground with knives. One could argue that a knife free school is a massacre safe zone, but this is forgetting all the cases where a student was intercepted with a knife before he could do any harm. What, you want everyone to carry a knife to school?


Also, Infowars is not even close to a legitimate news source. It's a blog run by the likes of Alex JOnes and friends, who believe in the coming of The New World Order. Again, he's full of bullshit.


You know PV... sometimes I see you as insane for your love of imoutos... Then sometimes like here.. you seem to be a voice of sanity.

You are truly one confusing person. (Also, you are both male and female if your 4th gender change on CR says anything).
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Automobiles are a much greater threat than firearms and the like. Not only are there more deaths from auto-related incidents, but they, unlike guns, have become absolutely essential to our functioning as a society. It has become normal for people to spend a good portion of their day in or near those death machines: not everyone owns a gun, but pretty much everyone either possesses a car or has access to one -- even if it's just public transportation. Not to mention, cars have a lot more criminal potential than a gun does -- it can even be used to commit gun violence. And, it's not just cars: bikes, vans, trucks, tractors... all of these can become a lethal weapon. In fact, it's gotten to the point where, in the news, auto-related accidents have become so commonplace that, not only is it present most of the time, but relatively little attention is ever given to it, compared to gun violence cases. That's horrible!

-The silver lining in this mess is that there seems to be more interest in regulating the use of automobiles, and, thanks to guns, there aren't as many people who currently recognize the sheer potential of a car.
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SHARKS!!!!
oh wait.. forgot

Sorry Piranha...
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I carry a weapon that goes on aircraft, into courtrooms and more without getting questioned.
Easy to kill with no special training.


ITS A PEN![/orange
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I prefer my gold Cross pen. But any metal pen will work.

A pencil or plastic pen can also do the job.

Just face it, we humans are animals at heart.
This veneer of civil behavior goes away far to easy when angered/scared

If you ban things that kill we will just move on to the next thing.


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kennk5 wrote:Just face it, we humans are animals at heart.

If you ban things that kill we will just move on to the next thing.
at heart?
and I would in some way say its better for a killer to use a gun.
As it would be easier to deal with the killer but not with the gun, those who do it more personal/close up to a target I would loose a way to "rescue" that person but those who got hurt would be hurt much more as guns/bombs/chems can take so many and do so much.

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Freddy96NO wrote:


kennk5 wrote:Just face it, we humans are animals at heart.

If you ban things that kill we will just move on to the next thing.
at heart?
and I would in some way say its better for a killer to use a gun.
As it would be easier to deal with the killer but not with the gun, those who do it more personal/close up to a target I would loose a way to "rescue" that person but those who got hurt would be hurt much more as guns/bombs/chems can take so many and do so much.



I really am having a hard time understanding what you are trying to say.

Please think about what you want to say then separate those thought into sentences that apply to the quote.

Hard to tell if you are "pro" or "con" to my statement.
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