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This is getting tiresome. Here's an idea: why doesn't the gun control lobby congregate in a single geographic area, then declare and legislate it a gun-free zone. (Y'all can even have Bloomberg as a god-in-residence.) This action would greatly simplify things. This way, the criminals would already know where to find the most helpless victims; gun control advocates could die deaths of happy martyrdom, proving their point while offering themselves as those helpless victims; after which, the rest of us would finally be spared all the incessant whining. EVERYBODY WINS!!!

*Now, who wants to discuss No Child Left Behind or Obamacare, or perhaps even more irresponsible acts of social engineering?
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The Boston Marathon bombing was a terrorist attack, followed by subsequent related shootings, that occurred when two pressure cooker bombs exploded during the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013. The bombs exploded about 12 seconds and 210 yards (190 m) apart at 2:49 pm EDT, near the marathon's finish line on Boylston Street. They killed 3 civilians and injured an estimated 264 others.

Bombs are and will always be worse than any form of weapon short of dropping objects from orbit onto a planet.


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There was a tractor Slaughter in 2010 with well.....a TRACTOR. In China. Let me dig it up.

Although no gun limit advocate ever said slaughters can't happen with knive, but are less likely to happen. Remember that school stabbing? Would be much worst if he had a gun. Now this isn't an argument for or against gun rights or gun control, but in my experience, guns are deadlier. There was a school stabbing at my school, would've probably been much worst.

In essence, I think Pickering was an exception rather than a rule. You can't even compare a knife to a gun. So basically, YOUR example was an exception to the rule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Hebei_tractor_rampage


Have your gun free zones ever reduced crime within their radius? I know that arming everyone has caused crime to plummet in a couple places but has a gun free zone ever worked anywhere? Most shootings seem to take place in gun free zones.


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This is getting tiresome. Here's an idea: why doesn't the gun control lobby congregate in a single geographic area, then declare and legislate it a gun-free zone. (Y'all can even have Bloomberg as a god-in-residence.) This action would greatly simplify things. This way, the criminals would already know where to find the most helpless victims; gun control advocates could die deaths of happy martyrdom, proving their point while offering themselves as those helpless victims; after which, the rest of us would finally be spared all the incessant whining. EVERYBODY WINS!!!

*Now, who wants to discuss No Child Left Behind or Obamacare, or perhaps even more irresponsible acts of social engineering?


Isn't that whats happening in California and New York? However it is still unconstitutional even if they did so.
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outontheop wrote:Also, criminals (nor, indeed, police or even well-trained soldiers) do not specifically target vital organs with gunfire. Many of them aren't even proficient with a firearm, and they certainly don't go to that level of minutia. They all tend to shoot center mass, and hit wherever they hit. With bladed implements, there is sometimes an attempt to target perceived vital points, but in even this case, they are often off, as most criminals don't actually know where the heart is, or how deep they need to go. They do, however, instinctively understand the neck is a vulnerable area, and there is instinctive pressure to target it with hand motions (to include blades). They're not often very *good* at it, thankfully, as the instinctive motions lead to slashing rather than thrusts against the neck, and open-hand strangulation (doesn't work) rather than actually effective stiff-handed strikes which can collapse a larynx. There is a heavy psychological influence from instinct at play there: evidence would indicate it is a behavioural holdover from displays of dominance in our more animalistic past: even today, making the neck vulnerable is a show of submission, dropping the chin to protect the neck is a show of defiance (or preparation to fight), and reaching for the neck is an instinctive attack.

Perhaps in addition to Fackler, you should read up on LTC Dave Grossman's studies. "On Killing" is an excellent primer on the psychological factors behind aggression and the deliberate act of killing. Very enlightening.


interesting. will try and read those later. thanks for the recommendation. :p
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Rujikin wrote:

The Boston Marathon bombing was a terrorist attack, followed by subsequent related shootings, that occurred when two pressure cooker bombs exploded during the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013. The bombs exploded about 12 seconds and 210 yards (190 m) apart at 2:49 pm EDT, near the marathon's finish line on Boylston Street. They killed 3 civilians and injured an estimated 264 others.

Bombs are and will always be worse than any form of weapon short of dropping objects from orbit onto a planet.


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

There was a tractor Slaughter in 2010 with well.....a TRACTOR. In China. Let me dig it up.

Although no gun limit advocate ever said slaughters can't happen with knive, but are less likely to happen. Remember that school stabbing? Would be much worst if he had a gun. Now this isn't an argument for or against gun rights or gun control, but in my experience, guns are deadlier. There was a school stabbing at my school, would've probably been much worst.

In essence, I think Pickering was an exception rather than a rule. You can't even compare a knife to a gun. So basically, YOUR example was an exception to the rule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Hebei_tractor_rampage


Have your gun free zones ever reduced crime within their radius? I know that arming everyone has caused crime to plummet in a couple places but has a gun free zone ever worked anywhere? Most shootings seem to take place in gun free zones.


moonhawk81 wrote:

This is getting tiresome. Here's an idea: why doesn't the gun control lobby congregate in a single geographic area, then declare and legislate it a gun-free zone. (Y'all can even have Bloomberg as a god-in-residence.) This action would greatly simplify things. This way, the criminals would already know where to find the most helpless victims; gun control advocates could die deaths of happy martyrdom, proving their point while offering themselves as those helpless victims; after which, the rest of us would finally be spared all the incessant whining. EVERYBODY WINS!!!

*Now, who wants to discuss No Child Left Behind or Obamacare, or perhaps even more irresponsible acts of social engineering?


Isn't that whats happening in California and New York? However it is still unconstitutional even if they did so.


Depends. I believe our Source Officer did in fact have a live gun. Who knows? Did any Source Officer really stop a school shooting with their current armaments? Maybe they should be allowed to carry guns. Though I am generally against the concept of allowing teenagers with guns in school.

I mean, I understand if you're a hunter and you just so happen to leave your hunting equipment in your truck, but I see no reason to carry a weapon in a school. It would probably cause discomfort among students, not to mention we can't crack down on conceal weapons because of it, not to mention since the shooter is likely a student, it might cause confusion.
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14 killed in India yesterday by a man with a cleaver.

Cut their throats.
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