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In fairness, they voted unanimously to change it themselves and you don't generally see the term "master" used these days in an official capacity.

Also in fairness, changing it to "Faculty Dean" seems almost as bad in terms of confusing titles.

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The change does seem pointless but why get upset over it? I swear some of you "anti-PC" people get more upset over minor things than the "SJW" crowd does. Who fucking cares what title they use, what they change it to, or why?
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I'd hate to concede, but this is pretty ridiculous in my view. Although I think the term master has a harsher meaning than which applied to AMERICAN slavery. It hints at a superiority which is entirely unhealthy, but this, American slavery, tipped the balance? Tsk. This rubs me all sorts of wrongs.


I don't agree with that. If I am the master of something is because I earn that. So yes I am better than you and most people in that area that I am a master of. I am not going to call myself good when I am way above just being good.
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You know, most people probably don't associate 'master' with slavery right off the bat nowadays....I mean, there's the sexual meaning...and what about 'master's degree?' Next thing you know they be changing that shit.


yea, I immediantly thought of masters degree
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oh no! next thing we know we cant call ourselves pokemon masters!
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"Always two, there are: A Senior Training Supervisor, and an apprentice...."


Lol, what about the Jedi M- ...err, instructors?
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The change does seem pointless but why get upset over it? I swear some of you "anti-PC" people get more upset over minor things than the "SJW" crowd does. Who fucking cares what title they use, what they change it to, or why?


Its not about the change, its about the censoring of language. No matter how it is applied, even if you think the application of the censoring of language is minor, it is still censoring language and that is no small or minor issue.
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Harvard?


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Is it possible to start my own country or is all the land taken?
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Man that is so sad. That was a keepable tradition too. And it was cool.
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Nogara-san wrote:

You know, most people probably don't associate 'master' with slavery right off the bat nowadays....I mean, there's the sexual meaning...and what about 'master's degree?' Next thing you know they be changing that shit.


Here here! I've worked countless hours for my master's degree, days of little to no sleep, nothing but studying, they BETTER give me a Master's Degree and not a something else Degree.
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Faculty Dean's Degree...doesn't sound as 'masterful'.

Seriously, where do all those brainless, bleeding hearts come from?
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In fairness, they voted unanimously to change it themselves and you don't generally see the term "master" used these days in an official capacity.

Also in fairness, changing it to "Faculty Dean" seems almost as bad in terms of confusing titles.



They may have voted unanimously for it but what I'd like to know is actually how many kids on these campuses actually brought up these kinds of things as issues. I've not even been gone more than two years from college and this kind of stuff is making me feel like I might not want to go back to college for any Master's degree. Why? Because the kids there could be protesting so much they'd shut the school down over something. I hadn't even heard of triggering until this year and I've got to say it's gotten to be borderline ridiculous simply because no one is ever going to know what might potentially trigger a person until it triggers them. When it does, well, the one to blame will be the one to cause it and therefore who knows what could happen to that person? It's wrong to subject people to traumatic issues but it's also wrong to subject people without those problems to having to deal with that particular person's issues by writing up an "all purpose label" for their problem which everyone else then is expected to follow without question. It doesn't help solve the problem long term and will only act as a band aid.
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Its not about the change, its about the censoring of language. No matter how it is applied, even if you think the application of the censoring of language is minor, it is still censoring language and that is no small or minor issue.


It's not censorship. Nobody is suggesting that the title "master" should be disallowed or made illegal, even at Harvard. If people want to keep using the term "master" nobody will stop them. This is one private organization's decision to change an archaic job title. It is a very small and minor issue.

The obsession these days is not with political correctness. It is with outrage. Everyone wants to be outraged and tell you all about it, all the time.

You see it with the so called "social justice warriors" who whine about anything remotely controversial.

And you see it with the anti-PC brigade who respond with "the country is fucked!", "censorship is destroying everything!", "what has the world come to?", "kids these days are hopeless", "everyone is too soft". Blah blah blah. All that melodramatic bullshit sounds the same to me.
Posted 2/29/16 , edited 2/29/16

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I'd hate to concede, but this is pretty ridiculous in my view. Although I think the term master has a harsher meaning than which applied to AMERICAN slavery. It hints at a superiority which is entirely unhealthy, but this, American slavery, tipped the balance? Tsk. This rubs me all sorts of wrongs.


I don't agree with that. If I am the master of something is because I earn that. So yes I am better than you and most people in that area that I am a master of. I am not going to call myself good when I am way above just being good.


True, but this doesn't pertain to a degree but rather a position attained over a human being. Some might find it acceptable in certain as with magisters, or school teachers from whom we derived the term, but I'd be dead before I'd call my former boss "master". I'm not his maid, I'm not his student, and I'm certainly not his lover. I'm his cohort, and although an underling whom he must manage, it doesn't change that fact that we work together for the same goal, nor does it change the fact the connotations that comes with the word master, which for me is slightly demeaning in certain positions.

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