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Posted 2/28/16 , edited 2/29/16
Hi fellow CRs! I was wondering (to any of you waiters and waitresses out there) if you guys treat people who don't give you tips like people who do give you tips. Would you spit in there drinks or something (which is weird btw), would you be less polite, blah blah blah. You know what I'm talking about

If you aren't a waiter or waitress what would you do if you were?



Just want to clarify, I have not held a grudge or have done anything to the food of my customers! I have on several occasions felt a bit "betrayed" if you know what I mean. I can't really describe the feeling.
Posted 2/28/16
I'd just move on.

If people wouldn't pay me a tip then sure It'd be a bit rude but I'd forget about it.
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Posted 2/28/16 , edited 2/28/16
I mean if they want to be just as much of a piece of shit as the customer then be my guest. There's always going to be a few bad customers you get, but it comes with the job. If you decide to act in a negative fashion over spilled milk then you're not really any better and should move onto another job.

In the US it's normal to tip. Usually 15-20% for good/normal service. More if it excels or gratuity is involved.
EU usually doesn't do tips. They do things differently for the most part from what I've heard/experienced.
Posted 2/28/16
You know what's funny. They've done studies and you don't really get bigger tips for better service.
Posted 2/28/16 , edited 2/28/16
No, I would still continue to treat them the same even if they don't tip
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It probably depends a lot on the place, but personally I've never been/seen wait staff being blatantly rude or fucking with anyone's food. bad tippers get less attention from waitstaff and sat in the shitty sections, but that's about it.
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ZavinRoyalheart wrote:

You know what's funny. They've done studies and you don't really get bigger tips for better service.


You definitely get smaller tips for poor service though.
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Posted 2/28/16
Ya know I always found the tip thing odd. In North America its' expected, demanded almost. In Europe it's welcomed but not expected. And the two times I've been to Japan I've found out they consider tipping an insult.
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Posted 2/28/16 , edited 2/28/16
I always believed a tip is just that, a tip. Since when did it become a close to a fixed price of 15% of the cost? Does someone who's just doing their job or does a mediocre job deserve a tip? Those that show enthusiasm in their job and go above their typical service deserves it.

I'd like to hear how it goes in Japan? I heard that it's actually an insult to tip people because it implies that they're not making enough money.


Ranwolf wrote:

Ya know I always found the tip thing odd. In North America its' expected, demanded almost. In Europe it's welcomed but not expected. And the two times I've been to Japan I've found out they consider tipping an insult.


Ya you pretty much nailed it. In NA it's become expected and in Europe it's not.
Posted 2/28/16 , edited 2/28/16

RazielofEnoch wrote:


ZavinRoyalheart wrote:

You know what's funny. They've done studies and you don't really get bigger tips for better service.


You definitely get smaller tips for poor service though.


Not as small as you might think. While I'm sure that there is a decrease in pay many people are worried that they'll get yelled at or judged. If you don't get a tip that person just wasn't going to give you a tip. At least that's what Adam Ruins Everything taught me about it. A show that is backed up with reliable facts and listed sources.
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Posted 2/28/16 , edited 2/28/16

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I'd like to hear how it goes in Japan? I heard that it's actually an insult to tip people because it implies that they're not making enough money.




I don't know the reason why but I can tell ya they consider it quite the insult. I remember the look on the waiter's face. Dude look like I had just bitch slapped him after I told him I just raped his sister or something.
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Posted 2/28/16
Not worth it really, but if you're being rude i'll call you out on it. If you insist on being a lil shit in my restaurant don't expect good service. From anybody. The teams who work at good restaurants are pretty tight knit and we'll stick up for eachother if a customer is giving us a hard time. We risk the bad review because everyone who ends up reading it already knows that the person who wrote it was one of "those customers". Generally it's not hard to be nice to people because it's easy enough for them to be nice back, those tips generally reflect their own income and i hardly take it personally. Tips are a very unstable form of income anyways, if someone doesn't tip, there's someone else who tips extra.
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Posted 2/28/16
i treat all my customers the same, i just remember the ones who don't tip/tip horribly. 2 tables want something at the same time (refills condiments extra what ever) im gonna go to the good table first lol. of course not shut down the bad table, just in a polite way that i'll be right there as quick as i can.
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Posted 2/28/16

ZavinRoyalheart wrote:

You know what's funny. They've done studies and you don't really get bigger tips for better service.


It's true. The bigger tips generally come from people who either have higher income or also work as a server somewhere else because they know how it is.
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MRCMike wrote:

I always believed a tip is just that, a tip. Since when did it become a close to a fixed price of 15% of the cost? Does someone who's just doing their job or does a mediocre job deserve a tip? Those that show enthusiasm in their job and go above their typical service deserves it.

I'd like to hear how it goes in Japan? I heard that it's actually an insult to tip people because it implies that they're not making enough money.


Ranwolf wrote:

Ya know I always found the tip thing odd. In North America its' expected, demanded almost. In Europe it's welcomed but not expected. And the two times I've been to Japan I've found out they consider tipping an insult.


Ya you pretty much nailed it. In NA it's become expected and in Europe it's not.


I mean, I guess you two never worked tip-requiring jobs before, which is fortunate for you two. I guess your parents never made you get jobs like that, or you did minimum wage jobs like cashier/etc.

but I can tell you, I know how OP feels like. You have to realize that without tips, you're making probably $2-$4 / hr. I'm not exactly sure, legally, how they can get away with this. I mean are servers, independent contractors or some other non-employee? You know, who knows.

I know it's not fair to make customers pay the payroll, but I've been on the receiving end, and let me tell you it's not pretty.

You try your best to be courteous and nice to customers, hoping they'll give you a tip. It's a lot of effort. It feels like you're "taking care of them" a little more specially. It hurts worse when they're repeat customers, like in my scenario. You do your best to be extra nice and give better service, but they, thick-faced, don't tip. I'm not going to say that you'd end up being rude to them, but you'll definitely give more preference to those who give tips (like what I did), and put those who don't give tips on the back burner.

I know it's not right, but... that's how those sorts of industries are.

so please people, be more empathetic, tip. It's not really a tip, it's literally their paycheck.
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