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Posted 2/29/16
My State doesn't have a tipped minimum wage, so I generally only do 10-15 percent in restaurants. And I don't feel too bad giving nothing at all if I get bad service, though to my knowledge that's only happened a couple times. There are also some tip services I just flat out am too cheap to tip for- namely things like coffee stands.
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ZavinRoyalheart wrote:


RazielofEnoch wrote:


ZavinRoyalheart wrote:

You know what's funny. They've done studies and you don't really get bigger tips for better service.


You definitely get smaller tips for poor service though.


Not as small as you might think. While I'm sure that there is a decrease in pay many people are worried that they'll get yelled at or judged. If you don't get a tip that person just wasn't going to give you a tip. At least that's what Adam Ruins Everything taught me about it. A show that is backed up with reliable facts and listed sources.



Yeah you aren't going to convince people that weren't tipping anyway to leave one basically ever, it's the people that tip who choose not to if the service is bad. My 5+ years of waiting tables is anecdotal tho, you probably know more from watching tv.
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lambofgenesis wrote:

but I can tell you, I know how OP feels like. You have to realize that without tips, you're making probably $2-$4 / hr. I'm not exactly sure, legally, how they can get away with this. I mean are servers, independent contractors or some other non-employee? You know, who knows.


It is explicit in the minimum wage laws.
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I would never tip unless they did a really good job.

My country doesn't force workers to work without a paycheck a tip is what a tip should be an EXTRA


Yo ryu, you live in America bruh, go tip or stop eating out
Posted 2/29/16
i always leave just the tip, keeps'em coming back for more
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Ranwolf wrote:
Ya know I always found the tip thing odd. In North America its' expected, demanded almost. In Europe it's welcomed but not expected. And the two times I've been to Japan I've found out they consider tipping an insult.


Sounds about right. With the States in particular because the fact tipping exists allows places to pay the wait staff below minimum wage under the expectation they will make it up in tips. Which I think is where a lot of this became so ingrained in North America. Tipping was ( and still is in a lot of places ) a way of making up the low pay or absorbing certain costs of the person on the receiving end ( Pizza delivery drivers that don't get paid for gas for example ).

But instead of its intention, gratuity, its been exploited a lot a justification for keeping wages low. So its sort of become a cruel cycle in some areas. The person needs tips because they are underpaid. They are underpaid because their boss says they get tips.
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I usually tip 10% to 20% unless the service is really bad. There was one instance when I tipped a big zero. I went to a upscale restaurant with a few friends. When we were seated some young punk comes up to the table immediately accusing us of stealing the money from the previous customers he waited. He continuously kept blaming us of taking the black book that had the money in it. So we stood up, proving to him that we did not have the black book or the money and offered him to check the cameras or call the police since he was making a scene.

The manager comes by and tells the waiter not to worry and to serve our food. The kid slams the soup across table and tosses the fries and still has a attitude. We let his unprofessional behavior go because someone did steal his money. But that merited no tip.

On the positive note, I was in North Carolina visiting a friend and we went to some bar and grill. The bartender was amazing, made good drinks and was gorgeous with a personality to match. The bill came to around $50, and I tipped her another $50. The most I've ever tipped was $100 to a girl in Applebees. She was almost in tears. Good service gets amazing tips.
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lambofgenesis wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:

I would never tip unless they did a really good job.

My country doesn't force workers to work without a paycheck a tip is what a tip should be an EXTRA


Yo ryu, you live in America bruh, go tip or stop eating out


I swore he lived in Australia.
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ChaoticRuins wrote:

Hi fellow CRs! I was wondering (to any of you waiters and waitresses out there) if you guys treat people who don't give you tips like people who do give you tips. Would you spit in there drinks or something (which is weird btw), would you be less polite, blah blah blah. You know what I'm talking about

If you aren't a waiter or waitress what would you do if you were?


In the UK there is no custom to tip it is seen as rude not to tip but there are no guidelines staff get paid a hour wage (minimum wage at worst) and tips are considered a bonus. I know for the most part in the US tips make up the wage to a point and 10% to my understanding is what is considered a minimum tip.

Now if i was in that scenario above i would give them the full polite service like a good tipping customer, why?
I would like to think that a good impression would encourage them to return and eat again, then in time they would tell others about the quality service they had and they might bring new faces into the business. More customers equals more tips... can you tell i work in retail full time yet ? lol


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I usually tip 10% to 20% unless the service is really bad. There was one instance when I tipped a big zero. I went to a upscale restaurant with a few friends. When we were seated some young punk comes up to the table immediately accusing us of stealing the money from the previous customers he waited. He continuously kept blaming us of taking the black book that had the money in it. So we stood up, proving to him that we did not have the black book or the money and offered him to check the cameras or call the police since he was making a scene.

The manager comes by and tells the waiter not to worry and to serve our food. The kid slams the soup across table and tosses the fries and still has a attitude. We let his unprofessional behavior go because someone did steal his money. But that merited no tip.

On the positive note, I was in North Carolina visiting a friend and we went to some bar and grill. The bartender was amazing, made good drinks and was gorgeous with a personality to match. The bill came to around $50, and I tipped her another $50. The most I've ever tipped was $100 to a girl in Applebees. She was almost in tears. Good service gets amazing tips.


I would of left and walked before even ordering lost / stolen money or not waiter sounds way out of line :o


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VividDreamZ wrote:

I usually tip 10% to 20% unless the service is really bad. There was one instance when I tipped a big zero. I went to a upscale restaurant with a few friends. When we were seated some young punk comes up to the table immediately accusing us of stealing the money from the previous customers he waited. He continuously kept blaming us of taking the black book that had the money in it. So we stood up, proving to him that we did not have the black book or the money and offered him to check the cameras or call the police since he was making a scene.

The manager comes by and tells the waiter not to worry and to serve our food. The kid slams the soup across table and tosses the fries and still has a attitude. We let his unprofessional behavior go because someone did steal his money. But that merited no tip.

On the positive note, I was in North Carolina visiting a friend and we went to some bar and grill. The bartender was amazing, made good drinks and was gorgeous with a personality to match. The bill came to around $50, and I tipped her another $50. The most I've ever tipped was $100 to a girl in Applebees. She was almost in tears. Good service gets amazing tips.


That's a weird upscale restaurant. .. simply because you seated yourselves rather than were seated. I mean it would almost be impossible for the book to get stolen if they seated you
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Posted 2/29/16

lambofgenesis wrote:


VividDreamZ wrote:

I usually tip 10% to 20% unless the service is really bad. There was one instance when I tipped a big zero. I went to a upscale restaurant with a few friends. When we were seated some young punk comes up to the table immediately accusing us of stealing the money from the previous customers he waited. He continuously kept blaming us of taking the black book that had the money in it. So we stood up, proving to him that we did not have the black book or the money and offered him to check the cameras or call the police since he was making a scene.

The manager comes by and tells the waiter not to worry and to serve our food. The kid slams the soup across table and tosses the fries and still has a attitude. We let his unprofessional behavior go because someone did steal his money. But that merited no tip.

On the positive note, I was in North Carolina visiting a friend and we went to some bar and grill. The bartender was amazing, made good drinks and was gorgeous with a personality to match. The bill came to around $50, and I tipped her another $50. The most I've ever tipped was $100 to a girl in Applebees. She was almost in tears. Good service gets amazing tips.


That's a weird upscale restaurant. .. simply because you seated yourselves rather than were seated. I mean it would almost be impossible for the book to get stolen if they seated you

We were seated by someone, which makes it even more odd that we got blamed. LOL. That is why we told the waiter to look at the camera or call the police which he didn't. Once we were seated, that is when that waiter came up yelling at us.
Posted 2/29/16
I personally always tip 20% but on the odd chance that I don't have any money for tips, pure 20's, 50's or 100's on me, and even if it was like a 15 or 10 dollar thing but I have no change for a 20, I'll just personally give them the 20
I know how it is going through that whole process
Posted 2/29/16

Ranwolf wrote:

Ya know I always found the tip thing odd. In North America its' expected, demanded almost. In Europe it's welcomed but not expected. And the two times I've been to Japan I've found out they consider tipping an insult.


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I don't tip, just dance!

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I know we do not teach this in school, but tipping and tips are expected as part of the pay for a lot of jobs.

What you should be doing is tipping for the meal regardless of service. If your service was extra good tip more, or talk to thier boss and give some kudos, If it was bad, tip your 15% and find the manager and let them know.

Do not stiff people because you didn't like the "service" you wouldn't like your paycheck garnished every time you made a mistake right? Or worse you do not want to be garnished every time your co-worker made a mistake. I've seen several instances where people go to a nice restaurant and refuse to tip because the food was bad. That server didn't cook their food but that's who will have to go without pay. Finally if you don't tip then these people will need welfare which you will pay for so may as well tip.

I know its hard to reteach yourself but your not paying for good service, your paying for service.

Here is a good guide to determine how much to tip.

http://emilypost.com/advice/general-tipping-guide/

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