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Posted 2/29/16

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If you think humanity is all there is to existence I feel sorry for you.

I know right? How dare he not mention things like cats, dogs, and that annoying fly who keeps flying around my head.


Funny do you want my can of Raid? It kills bugs right quick....
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:
I never said the mentally ill WERE normally violent. Though the violently mentally ill people are violent. See what I did there? However, as right as you are, I think it would be foolhardy to assume without evidence.


Well, she claimed herself to be motivated by terrorist ideologies and her behavior does seem consistent with the beheadings endorsed by certain terrorist organizations. The only question, then, is if she chose to associate her actions with terrorism only after the fact, rather than having been motivated purely by those ideologies.

Not that it really matters. Shouldn't change her punishment and shouldn't change our stance toward terrorist ideologies. Just another shocking article for the peanut gallery, eh.
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Well, think of it like this.

Picture a 12 year old weeaboo kid who is fanatically obsessed with Naruto. Kind of cute, but mostly annoying.

Now imagine if that was a grown man / grown woman.

That is how an atheist views religion.

We can tolerate the equivalent of casual fans... but there are no casual fans of Islam.
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Also if you are talking to an imaginary friend to help you get through trauma, I don't think that counts at all as being sane. Maybe temporarily stable at best.

Finally what the real problem with faith is, is that it's based on some person / group's agenda, and its power completely stems from blind tradition. Why do you believe in Christianity / Islam / Judaism ? Because your parents raised you to believe in it. You were given that crutch as a young child, and you haven't learned to walk without it.

The only religion I have sympathy toward is Buddhism, I will have to look into it, but Buddhism to me seems like more of a "Yes you can!" religion than a "Listen to me!" religion.



Really this trite and stale argument is your reasoning to attack faith. You can honestly look around the universe, at the glory and folly of it all and go meh..It was some damn accident or whatever. You can not honestly believe in something greater than your own selfish desires and wants. Even some of the greatest scientific minds of all time had no problem with faith, some were even believers themselves.

If you think humanity is all there is to existence I feel sorry for you.


I hope that humanity isn't all there is. At the same time, I also hope that it really isn't some idiot deity sitting somewhere who is probably just as insane as the people who believe in him/her/it are because of all the nonsensical gibberish he/she/it felt to impart on some extremely gullible humans.

So I will take it a step further. Not only do I not believe in a god. I don't want a god to exist, not in the omnipotent creator that defines our culture sense anyway.
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Posted 2/29/16

Ranwolf wrote:


Grauger wrote:


Ranwolf wrote:

If you think humanity is all there is to existence I feel sorry for you.

I know right? How dare he not mention things like cats, dogs, and that annoying fly who keeps flying around my head.


Funny do you want my can of Raid? It kills bugs right quick....

Ehh I think I'll be fine. Shipping would take awhile and is too much of a hassle.
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Ranwolf wrote:


xxJing wrote:



Well, think of it like this.

Picture a 12 year old weeaboo kid who is fanatically obsessed with Naruto. Kind of cute, but mostly annoying.

Now imagine if that was a grown man / grown woman.

That is how an atheist views religion.

We can tolerate the equivalent of casual fans... but there are no casual fans of Islam.
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Also if you are talking to an imaginary friend to help you get through trauma, I don't think that counts at all as being sane. Maybe temporarily stable at best.

Finally what the real problem with faith is, is that it's based on some person / group's agenda, and its power completely stems from blind tradition. Why do you believe in Christianity / Islam / Judaism ? Because your parents raised you to believe in it. You were given that crutch as a young child, and you haven't learned to walk without it.

The only religion I have sympathy toward is Buddhism, I will have to look into it, but Buddhism to me seems like more of a "Yes you can!" religion than a "Listen to me!" religion.



Really this trite and stale argument is your reasoning to attack faith. You can honestly look around the universe, at the glory and folly of it all and go meh..It was some damn accident or whatever. You can not honestly believe in something greater than your own selfish desires and wants. Even some of the greatest scientific minds of all time had no problem with faith, some were even believers themselves.

If you think humanity is all there is to existence I feel sorry for you.



All minds are ignorant of religion until they are taught about it. That itself pokes a huge flaw in religion being the "right" way to see the world.
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I like that in the article the perpetrator actually states her motivation and the Russian police of all people say they are not investigating this as terrorism, annnnd yet you still blamed it on Islam.

If you really must drudge around the internet trying to find anything that remotely supports your worldview ( such as it is ) at least finish reading the articles before you run here to "share" them with us. Though why you continue to run to an anime streaming site to do that to begin with still eludes me.


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All minds are ignorant of religion until they are taught about it. That itself pokes a huge flaw in religion being the "right" way to see the world.


If not taught about it, we will invent it. Regardless of whether it is right or wrong it is just the way our brains work. Evolving the ability to conceptualize and imagine what others are thinking or feeling also gave us the ability to attribute thoughts and feelings to anything. Or nothing. We are natural problem solvers and our need to know doesn't end when we run out of available information.

So I am afraid you are stuck with religion, in some form or another, until the day the entire human race knows everything there is to know about the universe. Once no secrets are left we'll finally stop trying to imagine what the answers are.

I wouldn't hold your breath on that being any day soon though. -.-
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Let's be honest, let's not rule out mental illness. This seems highly uncharacteristic of a sane person, even for a Muslim terrorist. This seems less like an act of terror and more like a mental illness, but who knows?


To be fair, to rule her out as a terrorist would be the same as to rule out the actual ISIS troops and leaders who are committing mass genocide in Syria and what not. In my honest opinion you have to NOT be sane to do the things they do to their own people, under false pretense that it was for the good of the country and that god wanted it to be so.
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Yea not terrorism, how come she's screaming Allu Akbhar. And people claim she isn't influenced by her religion.
If the story claimed she was Jewish or Christian we would be getting a lot of different comments.
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I never understood why anyone would want to be Muslim.. I think its Devil Religion Not God and Jesus Christ! I'm sure Jesus Christ frown upon Muslim ways.


I think JC has more important things to worry about then Islam like why we've turned the day of his death and resurrection into a freaking commercial holiday of chocolate and freaking egg laying bunnies.


this lol
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why wasn't there a thread (and tbh much media coverage) of the 3 muslim men killed in indiana?


Fear mongering media?


more like selectively racist. 3 christian (or lets face it -white-) men get killed and everyone is up in arms. 3 muslim men are killed and well... they don't get media coverage... at all... why? because the media wants to portray them as one archetype, "the terrorists" never "the victim"
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how about you live in muslim countries and get to experience the awesome religion that islam is.

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There will always be crazy people. But this thread brings up some interesting questions...

1) By the OPs logic, is Christianity also disqualified from being a "religion of peace" because after the US Civil War some of its "believers" dressed up in hoods and lynched blacks (burning, hanging, shooting, bombing, etc)?

2) If you were an all powerful god that created the universe, why would you require your creations to worship and praise you constantly to remind you how awesome and all powerful you are? If you're all knowing, you should already know how awesome you are right?

3) Why give them cognitive abilities / logic / reasoning and then require they believe in something they can't see nor rationalize to get into the afterlife? Seems a little twisted, no?
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Ranwolf wrote:


JanusCascade wrote:

I never understood why anyone would want to be Muslim.. I think its Devil Religion Not God and Jesus Christ! I'm sure Jesus Christ frown upon Muslim ways.


I think JC has more important things to worry about then Islam like why we've turned the day of his death and resurrection into a freaking commercial holiday of chocolate and freaking egg laying bunnies.



-shrugs- I heard that Christmas is not even JC's Birthday!

Anyway about Easter Egg, I found this web site.. (I'll copy and paste it here)

New Easter Eggs explain the Christian meaning
02 October 2010

The Church of England and the Meaningful Chocolate Company have teamed up to produce a new Easter egg that mentions Jesus on its packaging.

The Real Easter Egg is being launched after the Church of England noticed that none of the 80 million Easter eggs on sale this year mentioned the Christian understanding of Easter on their boxes.
The Real Easter Egg’s packaging will explain the meaning behind the most important festival in the Christian calendar.

“Many believe that chocolate eggs represent the boulder that sealed his tomb,” it reads.

The Real Easter Egg will go on sale next year priced £3.99, with a share of the profits going to charities working in the developing world and the Fairtrade Foundation.

Although the Church of England expects demand to be high, some supermarkets have been reluctant to take up the eggs.

A spokesperson for the Church of England said, “Despite the obvious demand not all UK supermarkets are planning to stock the egg next year.”

The Church of England is looking to church schools in particular to endorse the product and has produced educational resources to accompany the eggs that will teach children about citizenship, the meaning of Easter, the role of Fairtrade and the place of charitable giving.

The Rt Rev, Nigel McCulloch, Bishop of Manchester, said, “The Real Easter Egg gives church schools their first ever chance to buy an Easter egg that not only tastes good but does good.

“I believe there will be widespread support for the product from the faith community with many others likely to be interested.

“We hope that all our supermarkets will stock the first and only Easter egg in the UK that explains the significance of Easter and, through the charitable donation, brings to light the Easter themes of hope and new life.”

URL http://www.christiantoday.com/article/new.easter.eggs.explain.the.christian.meaning/26825.htm
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Anyone else realize she called Russia a "democracy"? That alone brings all of this into question. Not to mention quoting the dailymail is just lazy and embarrassing.
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