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If it was bait so do you. You obviously feel for it and replied.



Never claimed elsewise mate, question is what are you trying to claim here. That you are a supporter of a Neo-Nazi group or that your just straight up racist?


How are they a NAZI group? I don't see any hailing or Swastikas. They sound like a pro-norse group.

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How are they a NAZI group? I don't see any hailing or Swastikas. They sound like a pro-norse group.



Well somebody didn't do their homework before trying to act all snarky. The Soldiers of Odin originate in Finland where several of their members including top leadership have openly professed their Nazi ideals and facisits preferences. Not surprising though for a country that willinging helped the Nazis during world war 2 and had a whole branch of the SS devoted to them.
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Nice assumptions, I'm not trying to claim anything. Good try, though.


Well the syntax of your opening posts begs to differ. Of the two groups you have only called the one supposedly associated with ISIS evil without saying anything about the one actually associated with Nazism . If that it isn't showing clear favoritism to the Neo-Nazis that are the Soldiers of Odin I don't know what is.
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Ranwolf wrote:


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Nice assumptions, I'm not trying to claim anything. Good try, though.


Well the syntax of your opening posts begs to differ. Of the two groups you have only called the one supposedly associated with ISIS evil without saying anything about the one actually associated with Nazism . If that it isn't showing clear favoritism to the Neo-Nazis that are the Soldiers of Odin I don't know what is.


So because I said "Nothing says preventing evil and encouraging good like ISIS after all" (because it was stated they could have the ISIS flags on their backs) indicates I'm a racist because I didn't mention the other group? lol OK

Let me clear things up for you. I don't care about either group. I hope they kill each other off.
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Ranwolf wrote:


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How are they a NAZI group? I don't see any hailing or Swastikas. They sound like a pro-norse group.



Well somebody didn't do their homework before trying to act all snarky. The Soldiers of Odin originate in Finland where several of their members including top leadership have openly professed their Nazi ideals and facisits preferences. Not surprising though for a country that willinging helped the Nazis during world war 2 and had a whole branch of the SS devoted to them.


Obviously my plan was to be snarky! Of course I know everything about every group that has ever existed anywhere! What kind of fucking casual do you take me for? I would NEVER think of asking a question in order to get more information about an accusation yo made towards another group. Nope never.
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On the one hand, nationalist xenophobes. On the other hand, jihadist terrorists. I guess the latter is slightly worse since they consider most of Norway's population to be infidels deserving of death. Actually, I suppose that's more than slightly worse.
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On the one hand, nationalist xenophobes. On the other hand, jihadist terrorists. I guess the latter is slightly worse since they consider most of Norway's population to be infidels deserving of death. Actually, I suppose that's more than slightly worse.


Really mate you're supporting the Neo-Nazi's? There is no right side to this brewing conflict, none. Both of these groups deserves life imprisonment or worse. And besides no actual proof of the Soldiers of Allah being in anyway connected to terrorism have surfaced though admittedly the name is not the best choice.

Either way neither of these groups deserves anyone's sympathy or encouragement.
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Obviously my plan was to be snarky! Of course I know everything about every group that has ever existed anywhere! What kind of fucking casual do you take me for? I would NEVER think of asking a question in order to get more information about an accusation yo made towards another group. Nope never.


I don't see your issue mate I answered your question after all, pardon me for wanting to have a bit of fun in the process. Neo-Nazis are not my favorite topic of discussion for reasons well let's say personal ones and leave it at that.
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The US has already sacrificed rule of law for rule of legislation, and is quickly disintegrating because of it. Maybe I've become jaded by my years in law enforcement, but I see only two routes for the US to follow at this point: its complete societal collapse and likely takeover by a hostile foreign power OR its transformation into a militarized totalitarian state with an enslaved populace, a la North Korea..


That's....really jaded dude, yes. Besides its more like likely the US would just dissolve the union and turn into 2-3 countries. You would have a stable modern democracy in one and a poverty stricken desolate hellhole of a theocracy in the other. -.-


I wish I could believe that. Sadly, few politicians seem willing to concede any of their perceived power, so I don't expect such a peaceful solution. In fact, given the recent ineffectiveness of Congress, the complete politicalization of the Supreme Court, and the current lineup of Presidential candidates, I fear that we are already upon the cusp of a totalitarian takeover. Being in law enforcement, I have watched the quiet growth of Federal police powers over the last decade-and-a-half, complete with the formation of new agencies. And all while civilian police departments are finding their powers more curtailed and restricted. This deeply disturbs me.

And, just for clarification, the US is not now nor has it ever been a democracy--it is a republic (as stated in the Constitution), which is in truth a type of oligarchy. I think most people make this mistake because the lower (more localized) one goes in politics in the US, the more democratic the process actually becomes. Since most people participate far more often and passionately in local matters, they assume that the democratic processes they encounter are standard for our government as a whole--not so!!! Don't be shown a zebra and let yourself be told it's a horse, else you'll never even understand why you got trampled when you tried to ride. . .
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I wish I could believe that. Sadly, few politicians seem willing to concede any of their perceived power, so I don't expect such a peaceful solution. In fact, given the recent ineffectiveness of Congress, the complete politicalization of the Supreme Court, and the current lineup of Presidential candidates, I fear that we are already upon the cusp of a totalitarian takeover.


To paraphrase a certain quote; don't mistake stupidity for maliciousness. Achieving a totalitarian state requires some level of competence and unified will. America can't even get itself on the same page over the simplest of political issues.



moonhawk81 wrote:Being in law enforcement, I have watched the quiet growth of Federal police powers over the last decade-and-a-half, complete with the formation of new agencies. And all while civilian police departments are finding their powers more curtailed and restricted. This deeply disturbs me.


Most of the post 9/11 reaction ended up just throwing money at security theatre. There's not much competence to go around in many of the newer Federal agencies. Meanwhile I haven't see much to indicate civilian police have been curtained in any way. Especially given they've been allowed to buy up surplus military equipment from Iraq for civilian use.



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And, just for clarification, the US is not now nor has it ever been a democracy--it is a republic (as stated in the Constitution), which is in truth a type of oligarchy. I think most people make this mistake because the lower (more localized) one goes in politics in the US, the more democratic the process actually becomes.


Yes, I am aware it is a republic ( despite the level of political masturbation to the term democracy ). I was referring to the hypothetical future fracture between the Northern Unitary America and Jesusland.
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So the finnish group is branded with neo-nazis, huh? As a finnish guy who has seen them on a few occasions that's news to me.
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I wish I could believe that. Sadly, few politicians seem willing to concede any of their perceived power, so I don't expect such a peaceful solution. In fact, given the recent ineffectiveness of Congress, the complete politicalization of the Supreme Court, and the current lineup of Presidential candidates, I fear that we are already upon the cusp of a totalitarian takeover.


To paraphrase a certain quote; don't mistake stupidity for maliciousness. Achieving a totalitarian state requires some level of competence and unified will. America can't even get itself on the same page over the simplest of political issues.



moonhawk81 wrote:Being in law enforcement, I have watched the quiet growth of Federal police powers over the last decade-and-a-half, complete with the formation of new agencies. And all while civilian police departments are finding their powers more curtailed and restricted. This deeply disturbs me.


Most of the post 9/11 reaction ended up just throwing money at security theatre. There's not much competence to go around in many of the newer Federal agencies. Meanwhile I haven't see much to indicate civilian police have been curtained in any way. Especially given they've been allowed to buy up surplus military equipment from Iraq for civilian use.



moonhawk81 wrote:
And, just for clarification, the US is not now nor has it ever been a democracy--it is a republic (as stated in the Constitution), which is in truth a type of oligarchy. I think most people make this mistake because the lower (more localized) one goes in politics in the US, the more democratic the process actually becomes.


Yes, I am aware it is a republic ( despite the level of political masturbation to the term democracy ). I was referring to the hypothetical future fracture between the Northern Unitary America and Jesusland.


Point 1--conceded
Point 2--Per executive order 13688, the Federal government has begun taking back military-grade equipment that was issued to civilian police departments. (After all, the last thing you want when establishing a totalitarian government is a people with the means to fight back. . .)
Point 3--Jesusland! LMFAO!

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So the finnish group is branded with neo-nazis, huh? As a finnish guy who has seen them on a few occasions that's news to me.


Many people brand nationalists or anti-immigrants as NAZI's automatically over in America/Canada/Western-Europe without knowing anything about the group. What have you seen about that group since your actually in the country.


Also for your dark Finnish humor:
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Next up Soldiers of Anubis vs Soldiers of Buddha
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