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Likely never going to happen.

Gonna leave this here for all you Futurama fans.


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This shit again...
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Jean104 wrote:

I'm not the one that brought terrorists up.

Why do you believe soul work like that? I mean there's a reason not to just skip over life, and have everyone go straight to heaven. Giving souls to zygotes, without fixing the failure rate seems really counter productive. To my knowledge it's not said to work like that anywhere in the Bible.

The difference between purposely bumping into somebody, to hurt them, and pulling their finger nails out is also just a degree. The degree is rather important. This is the difference between murder and genocide.

Also lets be frank even if universal health care turned out to be a bad idea, it's being pushed for the honest sake of helping people.


Okay I brought up an apt terrorist comparison and you enlarged upon it, trying to discredit it by adding the "Hitlarian" label.

"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be. How precious to me are your thoughts, God! How vast is the sum of them!" Psalm 130:13-18

"But now he is dead [David's baby son]...I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me." 2 Samuel 12:23

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD. As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:8-9

That is the reason I believe the soul works like that.

Yes the degree is important, but both ends of the scale are still WRONG; forcing sex slaves to take contraceptives and forcing some people to pay for other people's contraceptives are indeed different degrees of force ...but both are still WRONG. A criminal will rob someone and then leave them alone - do gooders who push universal care "for the honest sake of helping people" WHO DON"T WANT IT - even if they have to use force - will never leave them alone.


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This shit again...


pat pat, there there ...have some tea and you'll feel better in a bit.
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Psalms I don't see anything about conception. Or a reason the speaker couldn't be wrong.

2 Samuel needs more context. I assume because of this discussion that he wasn't born yet, but how far along was he?

Rember I'm not claiming fetus only become people at birth, but it's sometime after the brain's kicked on. When maybe it might benefit.

Isaiah Mysterious ways. That's not what I'm currently arguing. It's not just that I think a decent God wouldn't, I don't think the Biblical God did (in story) or would.

Excuse me some people do want it, or rather need it. Also unless you want the police gone, there have to be situations where force is justified. We can't wait to get universal consensus, before we do anything. Some people were very unhappy about slavery being outlawed. The world might not be fair or balanced, but there's no solid reason to think that it's horrible in that specific way.
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Akage-chan wrote:

Likely never going to happen.

Gonna leave this here for all you Futurama fans.




Ayyy

Anyway I dislike the video and disagree with it but what else do you expect.
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Jean104 wrote:

Psalms I don't see anything about conception. Or a reason the speaker couldn't be wrong.

2 Samuel needs more context. I assume because of this discussion that he wasn't born yet, but how far along was he?

Rember I'm not claiming fetus only become people at birth, but it's sometime after the brain's kicked on. When maybe it might benefit.

Isaiah Mysterious ways. That's not what I'm currently arguing. It's not just that I think a decent God wouldn't, I don't think the Biblical God did (in story) or would.

Excuse me some people do want it, or rather need it. Also unless you want the police gone, there have to be situations where force is justified. We can't wait to get universal consensus, before we do anything. Some people were very unhappy about slavery being outlawed. The world might not be fair or balanced, but there's no solid reason to think that it's horrible in that specific way.


If you want context read it yourself, it is up to you what to believe; I stand by what I believe Scripture clearly says about when life begins and who God is ...not what man thinks He should be (another verse reads "you thought I was altogether like you, but I will rebuke you").

Then please post all your financial information so I can redistribute your funds as I deem fit - probably not going to happen; needing something is no excuse to force another to pay for it - no matter how "noble" ones motives.

“Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason I do not accept the authority of the popes and councils, for they have contradicted each other. My conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not recant anything for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.” Martin Luther
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The reason I asked for more there, is because you quoted part of it. Just a useless small part.

Okay I just read the story(2 Samuel 12). I don't think you did. The child that died is referred to as having been born, and the context makes it clear that he wasn't in womb during this. Also he was killed as a punishment for David.


13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.”

Nathan replied, “The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. 14 But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for[a] the Lord, the son born to you will die.”


Seriously if there's an explanation for this, then just tell me. Tell me where to start and stop. My stomach hurts from that chapter. I'm not kidding there.
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If god was an SJW it would disable everything as it was offensive.
#BanishThisWorld


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Yes the degree is important, but both ends of the scale are still WRONG; forcing sex slaves to take contraceptives and forcing some people to pay for other people's contraceptives are indeed different degrees of force ...but both are still WRONG. A criminal will rob someone and then leave them alone - do gooders who push universal care "for the honest sake of helping people" WHO DON"T WANT IT - even if they have to use force - will never leave them alone.


Yo. Waddup, dude? Long time, no see.
Still the same as always, I see?

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Please don't put God into this. Thank you.
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Posted 3/14/16 , edited 3/14/16

SportingNightRaid wrote:
Please don't put God into this. Thank you.

You do realize "God" was made the subject by the OP?

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Yo. Waddup, dude? Long time, no see.
Still the same as always, I see?

Still right, why would I change to a belief I know not to be true?

Jean104 wrote:
The reason I asked for more there, is because you quoted part of it. Just a useless small part.
Okay I just read the story(2 Samuel 12). I don't think you did. The child that died is referred to as having been born, and the context makes it clear that he wasn't in womb during this. Also he was killed as a punishment for David.

Soooo sorry to impose on you the agony of reading the story in context for yourself

The verses I quoted in Psalms indicate to me life before conception; I was aware of course David was referring to a baby (Samuel passage) who had been born like ONE WEEK earlier - I think it is a beautiful story anyway. Oh and I am currently reading the entire Bible for the 10th time and studied it in college for 3 years (2 Corinthians 11:17-21), so I am somewhat familiar with the Good Book.

The Apostle Paul advised his disciple Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach infirmity- hope that eases your pain ...no I won't look it up for you.
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Posted 3/15/16 , edited 3/15/16
2 Samuel Give it from memory then. Because this sure seems to have nothing to do with abortion.

Psalms Let me make this clear I don't expect much from the Bible. I mean the sited story has a baby die because of his father sin. There are all of the babies that drowned in the flood, or died when Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, and the first borns in Egypt. It's not like God isn't willing to kill babies, for his plan. But he's usually blunt about this stuff.

I'm sure some religion written by someone who had no idea what the chances of implantation are, outright says that's how it works. But I expect that point to be written clearly. So as to not be missed or mistaken. At best this verse implies the soul exists before birth. All that said about before conception is "all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be". Which is frankly just God knows the future.


On the side, when I talked out a term being used an uselessly vague way I was talking to eclair-lumiere.

Edit: The post is here already, but we should move to messages, since this isn't the forum topic anymore.
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