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Posted 3/9/16

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North Korea is really not a serious threat to us at all regardless of whether or no they have nukes, but if Russia wants to go on the offensive against them I see no reason to stop them


They have bunkers so deep our biggest bombs won't get to them. A counterattack by them is inevitable and sure to result in numerous casualties on our side, especially with the South Koreans lives, unless we nuke the entire country. Though do we really want have our kill count in the millions, and kill millions of oppressed individuals, while the alternative means bearing the burden of them when the government does fall?

Nuking isn't a viable option, nor is ending the North Korean Korean government and displacing millions of NK refugees, which will cripples the economy of the area for projected decades.


There are many reasons to avoid war with North Korea.

1. Nothing short of nuking them will likely prevent a counter attack, or a short war resulting in millions of death.

2. Humanity crisis


It's no whether or not we could win, but do we want to shoulder the spoils in the first place.
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Posted 3/9/16

PeripheralVisionary wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

North Korea is really not a serious threat to us at all regardless of whether or no they have nukes, but if Russia wants to go on the offensive against them I see no reason to stop them


They have bunkers so deep our biggest bombs won't get to them. A counterattack by them is inevitable and sure to result in numerous casualties on our side, especially with the South Koreans lives, unless we nuke the entire country. Though do we really want have our kill count in the millions, and kill millions of oppressed individuals, while the alternative means bearing the burden of them when the government does fall?

Nuking isn't a viable option, nor is ending the North Korean Korean government and displacing millions of NK refugees, which will cripples the economy of the area for projected decades.


There are many reasons to avoid war with North Korea.

1. Nothing short of nuking them will likely prevent a counter attack, or a short war resulting in millions of death.

2. Humanity crisis


It's no whether or not we could win, but do we want to shoulder the spoils in the first place.


Uh, I was never advocating we go to war with north korea, I was just saying I'm not gonna stop Putin from doing it.
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God, I love Putin.

If he doesn't like something, he just goes and does something about it.

The US could learn a lesson here.



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Posted 3/9/16

PeripheralVisionary wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

North Korea is really not a serious threat to us at all regardless of whether or no they have nukes, but if Russia wants to go on the offensive against them I see no reason to stop them


They have bunkers so deep our biggest bombs won't get to them. A counterattack by them is inevitable and sure to result in numerous casualties on our side, especially with the South Koreans lives, unless we nuke the entire country. Though do we really want have our kill count in the millions, and kill millions of oppressed individuals, while the alternative means bearing the burden of them when the government does fall?

Nuking isn't a viable option, nor is ending the North Korean Korean government and displacing millions of NK refugees, which will cripples the economy of the area for projected decades.


There are many reasons to avoid war with North Korea.

1. Nothing short of nuking them will likely prevent a counter attack, or a short war resulting in millions of death.

2. Humanity crisis


It's no whether or not we could win, but do we want to shoulder the spoils in the first place.


Technically we are still at war with North Korea. We are only at a cease fire right now. With no plans of a truce talks.
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Akage-chan wrote:

God, I love Putin.

If he doesn't like something, he just goes and does something about it.

The US could learn a lesson here.


And then Obama gets called a dictator and people start freaking out because how dare he try to take action without running the gauntlet of Washington's bullshit.
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Akage-chan wrote:

God, I love Putin.

If he doesn't like something, he just goes and does something about it.

The US could learn a lesson here.



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Praise Putin, but condemn Trump when he says stuff like that.... (I'm not saying you said it, I'm just saying.)
Posted 3/9/16 , edited 3/9/16

octorockandroll wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

North Korea is really not a serious threat to us at all regardless of whether or no they have nukes, but if Russia wants to go on the offensive against them I see no reason to stop them


They have bunkers so deep our biggest bombs won't get to them. A counterattack by them is inevitable and sure to result in numerous casualties on our side, especially with the South Koreans lives, unless we nuke the entire country. Though do we really want have our kill count in the millions, and kill millions of oppressed individuals, while the alternative means bearing the burden of them when the government does fall?

Nuking isn't a viable option, nor is ending the North Korean Korean government and displacing millions of NK refugees, which will cripples the economy of the area for projected decades.


There are many reasons to avoid war with North Korea.

1. Nothing short of nuking them will likely prevent a counter attack, or a short war resulting in millions of death.

2. Humanity crisis


It's no whether or not we could win, but do we want to shoulder the spoils in the first place.


Uh, I was never advocating we go to war with north korea, I was just saying I'm not gonna stop Putin from doing it.


The end result is still the same, and it will be US Allies who suffer the brunt of it.


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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

North Korea is really not a serious threat to us at all regardless of whether or no they have nukes, but if Russia wants to go on the offensive against them I see no reason to stop them


They have bunkers so deep our biggest bombs won't get to them. A counterattack by them is inevitable and sure to result in numerous casualties on our side, especially with the South Koreans lives, unless we nuke the entire country. Though do we really want have our kill count in the millions, and kill millions of oppressed individuals, while the alternative means bearing the burden of them when the government does fall?

Nuking isn't a viable option, nor is ending the North Korean Korean government and displacing millions of NK refugees, which will cripples the economy of the area for projected decades.


There are many reasons to avoid war with North Korea.

1. Nothing short of nuking them will likely prevent a counter attack, or a short war resulting in millions of death.

2. Humanity crisis


It's no whether or not we could win, but do we want to shoulder the spoils in the first place.


Technically we are still at war with North Korea. We are only at a cease fire right now. With no plans of a truce talks.


It ain't a war till bullets are flying.
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Posted 3/9/16 , edited 3/9/16

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They have bunkers so deep our biggest bombs won't get to them.


It's not the size of the bomb that matters. It's how you use it.


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Posted 3/9/16 , edited 3/9/16



PeripheralVisionary wrote:

It ain't a war till bullets are flying.


North Korea regularly lobs artillery shells into South Korea, usually into unpopulated areas, but a few years ago, they shelled a South Korean village, killing people. They also sunk a South Korean warship.

I'd say bullets are still flying.
Posted 3/9/16 , edited 3/9/16

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:
They have bunkers so deep our biggest bombs won't get to them.


It's not the size of the bomb that matters. It's how you use it.




Our bombs still won't reach them.


The primary reason is that the North Koreans have dug a massive artillery network into the mountains, which is so deep that even modern bunker buster bombs couldn't possibly reach them. These artillery pieces have the range to reach Seoul, which is one of the most densely populated cities in the world. Given the expectation of gas and chemical rounds, the civilian casualties could be in the tens, if not hundreds, of thousands. After that, North Korea's ability to wage war would essentially be zero, as even their soldiers exist on starvation diets. These artillery pieces are in the process of falling apart, which necessitates North Korea acquiring, or at least pretending to acquire, nuclear weapons to preserve this stalemate.
Add to that the fact that the annexation of North Korea could be the single largest humanitarian crisis in history, and there is a strong disincentive for NATO to go to war South Korea keeps up appearances, but taking on millions of unfed, untrained peasants may well destroy its economy for decades. While the US and South Korea obviously could beat the North Koreans, the ultimate dilemmas still remain "for what" and "at what cost," neither of which can be answered by the West as of yet.
Japan has strong anti-Korean sentiment and does not want to deal with unified Korea as a competitor either.



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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

North Korea is really not a serious threat to us at all regardless of whether or no they have nukes, but if Russia wants to go on the offensive against them I see no reason to stop them


They have bunkers so deep our biggest bombs won't get to them. A counterattack by them is inevitable and sure to result in numerous casualties on our side, especially with the South Koreans lives, unless we nuke the entire country. Though do we really want have our kill count in the millions, and kill millions of oppressed individuals, while the alternative means bearing the burden of them when the government does fall?

Nuking isn't a viable option, nor is ending the North Korean Korean government and displacing millions of NK refugees, which will cripples the economy of the area for projected decades.


There are many reasons to avoid war with North Korea.

1. Nothing short of nuking them will likely prevent a counter attack, or a short war resulting in millions of death.

2. Humanity crisis


It's no whether or not we could win, but do we want to shoulder the spoils in the first place.


Uh, I was never advocating we go to war with north korea, I was just saying I'm not gonna stop Putin from doing it.


The end result is still the same, and it will be US Allies who suffer the brunt of it.


paul25454 wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

North Korea is really not a serious threat to us at all regardless of whether or no they have nukes, but if Russia wants to go on the offensive against them I see no reason to stop them


They have bunkers so deep our biggest bombs won't get to them. A counterattack by them is inevitable and sure to result in numerous casualties on our side, especially with the South Koreans lives, unless we nuke the entire country. Though do we really want have our kill count in the millions, and kill millions of oppressed individuals, while the alternative means bearing the burden of them when the government does fall?

Nuking isn't a viable option, nor is ending the North Korean Korean government and displacing millions of NK refugees, which will cripples the economy of the area for projected decades.


There are many reasons to avoid war with North Korea.

1. Nothing short of nuking them will likely prevent a counter attack, or a short war resulting in millions of death.

2. Humanity crisis


It's no whether or not we could win, but do we want to shoulder the spoils in the first place.


Technically we are still at war with North Korea. We are only at a cease fire right now. With no plans of a truce talks.


It ain't a war till bullets are flying.


North Korea regularly lobs artillery shells into South Korea, usually into unpopulated areas, but a few years ago, they shelled a South Korean village, killing people. They also sunk a South Korean warship.

I'd say bullets are still flying.


Okay, you made a good point.
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Posted 3/9/16
Uh no. If North Korea is gonna be attacked by russia they will not retaliate against canada.
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Posted 3/9/16

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Our bombs still won't reach them.

A 20' long 1' diameter tungsten telephone pole traveling at ~mach 10 has considerable penetrating power.





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Posted 3/9/16
I say destroy North Korea along with ISIS
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good. let Russia handle them, and hopefully they will fix that shithole and get the crazy leader out of NK
leave America out of this
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We can thank Russia for all of this though. They are the root of the problem since they were promoters of communism spreading in Asia during the cold war.
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