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The UN and Your Opinion on it
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What’s your opinion on the UN, people within it, and the likes? Why?

Personally I dislike the organization. I think it is outdated and needs to either evolve or disappear. I honestly find that they deserve a lot of the fault of the war currently going on. I know they apposed it, but they appose everything; moreover, it was the UN who told America that Iraq had chemical weapons.

Basically they sent in their investigators and then said, “We haven’t found any weapons of mass destruction, but they’re there. The evidence is proof enough.” And that all that jazz. America reacted by starting a war that would have been avoided. We started this entire thing to get powerful war machines out of the hands of terrorists, and now we’re stuck in what was apparently a slaughter without purpose.

Sure, America is partially at fault, but I’m sick of people saying its all America. They reacted appropriately given the information available. Some of this information just turned out to be false. Now, I will say that America has operated…negligible, thanks to that boob Bush, sense then. The American president is on an ego trip and wont listen to any of his advisors. That’s off topic.

To return to topic, I think the UN has a wonderful affinity for sitting around, complaining, and debating when they should be acting! A perfect, though probably cliché or classic, example is when the Tutsis were being systematically and brutally slaughtered by the Hutu. The Hutu were charging about with machetes and clubs, very few had guns, and most of the guns used were shotguns. The UN could have easily sent a small martial force of armed protectors for the Tutsis and thus bluffed their way out of the genocide with the threat of violence, or (better yet) transported the Tutsis to a safer location while they negotiated.

I think its stupid that we are giving these blue-helmets Nobel Peace Prize’s when they are not much different than soldiers. After all the UN, as I understand, has no independent military and all movements they make must be approved by the security council. In other words the security council votes on something and the government officials act on it.

Well, I’m happy to see some effort, but honestly I think they need to rethink things. Good will alone doesn’t have enough power to avoid war, defend human rights, cure plagues, disarm terrorists, and everything else they aim for.
Posted 7/7/07
I hate the UN. It was created to maintain peace and moniter wars but it never did, all it does is try to screw us. its a waste of money and time. it never helped nations engulfed in civil war like congo and somalia so why allow it a contiued existence?
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Most people here are 12/13. I doubt they even know what the UN is. :/
Posted 7/7/07

mushroomjay wrote:


lokita wrote:

Most people here are 12/13. I doubt they even know what the UN is. :/


I do. It was pretty much a replacement for the failed NATO thing. UN isn't doing it's job too well though.

Also, welcome back Seraph, let's have sex sometime. Kay?


NATO still exists. The UN replaced The League of Nations, which Partner brought down.
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Sure thing, Jay. The UN was made to replace the League of Nations, right? History is my specialty, but not UN history so I’m really not 100% sure. I know enough to understand the organization, but that may be my limit. Mostly I just know about the more modern politics about them.

...Hmm... Well, the debate threads have gone down while I was gone. So I thought this might draw back a few of the older and more intellectual individuals that I know lurk about CR. That and a bunch of ignorant kids who are going to flame at me for disliking their beloved organization.

About the 12/13 year olds: Wikipedia is a nice place for you. Don't swear by anything you find on it, cuz it's like 20% full of crap, but it will give you the general idea on things.
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A organization that'll just break up sooner or later and then a new one will be formed to replace it...unless there's only one winner in the next world war.
Posted 7/7/07
The league of nations screwed up and the UN isnt doing so bad but their not doing great. crap i hate the UN i had to write 3 essays on it.
Describe the establishments of the UN bla blah blah i felt like killig myself i HATE history.
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I think the UN is useless. Even when they make decisions they have no real way of enforcing them.
Posted 7/15/07
The Un Is an impotent force.
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Posted 7/15/07
^agreed. the UN has absolutely no power over anyone or anything.
Posted 7/15/07
the UN only exists as a symbol of peace, I think....useless....
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He really does love his debate threads doesn't he ?

well, many people have probably never heard of the UN
Posted 7/15/07

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He really does love his debate threads doesn't he ?

well, many people have probably never heard of the UN


thats why they arent posting here.
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Posted 7/15/07
i dont think this thread is very debateable. we could go through history and see how many times they fucked shit up.

but that doesnt sound very fun to me.
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