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I'm with you ck1west! My sister, mother, two aunts, uncle, grandmother, great-aunt, great grandmother and great-great grandma are or were all teachers. There's a lot more to this question than it would appear on the surface.

Of course my parents paid to send me to private church run schools so in my experience it's completely normal for teachers to talk about religious topics, especially during religion class.
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There's also some faith schools that get partial funding from the state. They're not private schools but independent ones. Students don't have to pay fees. Those that want to incorporate religious studies and ethos into their working school life can do so in these schools.
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"Cause whatever you believe forbid we actually teach our students a little morality and ethics. A mind that is all logic is a knife that is all blade.
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Razor_Girl wrote:
Of course my parents paid to send me to private church run schools so in my experience it's completely normal for teachers to talk about religious topics, especially during religion class.
A forced view? oh anyway... ofc yes during religion class but atleast being synical and not all "oh god is great.. bla... bla..bla" and more "god did this around this era and that happend and so on".
Wish Americans could leave history alone and try not to change it on every damn school by some adults either thinking WW is wrong and a lot of other things... and that don't follow these good informative books but rather follow a good person.. god.
wait are you saying that it would be no morallity or ethics without religion or rather such belif's?

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Had a teacher my freshman year who yelled at me every time I said "Oh god!", "Jesus!", "Oh lord!" etc because it could "offend certain groups of people." I was so annoyed that I got into a huge argument with him about free speech and freedom of religion
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I worship the flying spaghetti monster, prophet of the orthodox church of cynicism.
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Discussion is fine, proselytizing and preaching are not at least in public schools.
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Unless you teach at a religious school, leave the religion at home/Church.

Religion has no place in a public school.
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Outside of Religious Education (RE), religion should be kept out of schools.
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JustineKo2 wrote:

Perhaps your science paper was well written and researched but if the teacher was obliged to give you a good grade (ie to avoid any accusation of discriminating against you), how do you know you actually had a outstanding paper?


I got the best grade because I did the best report; I'm going to ignore the irrelevant nuances of you other questions - I can't recall my faith as expressed in my assignments - general or not - ever being an issue.
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GotenLoooovesCorn wrote:

Its a different subject when it involves elementary/middle school kids, they will always be curious about everything asking questions. If they want to learn, teaching is much more than about curriculum and textbooks. Great teachers are the type that teach students lifelong lessons that are useful beyond the classroom. I agree with the guy saying keep it brief if you have to, and of course don't let students get off topic in the middle of a lecture. But that's different for the informal style that elementary school has. I guess in high school students feel forced to attend classes, and well, college...in my experience teachers behave any way they want with no regard for rules.


pretty good stuff here ^^

i highly disagree with those saying "keep your religion at home". There is a clear lack of understanding about spirituality here. Religion may be just a "thing" to some people, but to others, it's their lifestyle and how they define their spiritual well-being. that cannot be kept in at home, at a place of worship, or a box.

does it mean they should stand up and teach the Bible when they should be teaching phsyics? well, no. But it doesn't mean they can't pray when they sit down for lunch (which "keeping your religion at home" would entail), answer questions about their faith, or talk about a spiritual/religious experience they had that relates to a teaching lesson (because a good teacher is able to relate her/his lessons to real life situations). That's not forcing anything. It's being true to one's beliefs and keeping up one's spiritual health without having to go crazy about it.
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Sogno- wrote:

i highly disagree with those saying "keep your religion at home". There is a clear lack of understanding about spirituality here. Religion may be just a "thing" to some people, but to others, it's their lifestyle and how they define their spiritual well-being. that cannot be kept in at home, at a place of worship, or a box.

does it mean they should stand up and teach the Bible when they should be teaching phsyics? well, no. But it doesn't mean they can't pray when they sit down for lunch (which "keeping your religion at home" would entail), answer questions about their faith, or talk about a spiritual/religious experience they had that relates to a teaching lesson (because a good teacher is able to relate her/his lessons to real life situations). That's not forcing anything. It's being true to one's beliefs and keeping up one's spiritual health without having to go crazy about it.
I think the Christians who are asked to keep their religion at home / church take it more literally than intended by the people who ask them. We, as in those who strongly support Church / State separation, simply request teachers to recognize their responsibility as a face of their government organized educational program while they are in front of students. Being given this responsibility to influence and guide children and using any amount of your teaching to spread information related to religion (if it's not designated subject material) is a form of abuse.

Abiding by this principle is in no way meant to interfere with ones faithful or religiously devout lifestyle; you can pray at lunch time, you can have open conversations about your faith with students and other teachers (at times and places when open conversations are appropriate), you can have items symbolic to your faith in your possession. There is a lot that is permitted for you to do related to your faith and knowing when it is and is not permitted is really not that hard. All you have to do is ask yourself 'is right now the time to conduct my duties a teacher?'

Posted 3/16/16
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