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It is entirely possible dinosaurs survived whatever extinction event that killed them, and that ancient peoples left behind a record of dinosaurs they had actually seen. Flat earth evolutionists simply close their eyes, shout "creationist" and then pat themselves on the back convinced of their own intellectual superiority.
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Humans did find fossilized bones and preserved footprints of them. Much as we do now. But back then they didn't have fancy tools like carbon dating to reassure them more of those farking things weren't still living in the woods. If you were some wandering peasant and stumbled across a T-Rex skull your first thought would not be "Oh wow, I bet its millions of year sold!" it would be "OH SHIT FUCK ARE THERE MORE?" >.>

Also that does not look like a stegosaurus. It does however look like a number of animals that actually do live in Cambodia where this temple is located. Though it is kind of ironic that creationists are clinging to a Buddhist temple as proof of their stupidity.




Creationism isn't mutually exclusive from other religions. So I don't see how that is "ironic", maybe you were thinking of another word.

Edit: BUT I guess it is true that nearly all adherents of Buddhism believe in evolution.
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It is entirely possible dinosaurs survived whatever extinction event that killed them, and that ancient people's left behind a record of dinosaurs they had actually seen.


Do you have idea how huge of a time frame gap there is between last dinosaur and first monkey who could paint is? Never mind that the climate that supported us could not support a traditional big ass dinosaur. Thats why the only ones left are birds and gators. -.-



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Flat earth evolutionists simply close their eyes, shout "creationist" and then pat themselves on the back convinced of their own intellectual superiority.


,,,,flat earth evolutionists....Jesus we're going to go right down the rabbit hole here aren't we?
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Creationism isn't mutually exclusive from other religions. So I don't see how that is "ironic", maybe you were thinking of another word.


No, its not, but the term is pretty much completely co-opted by the Christian fundamentalist variety in modern times and that is what the term "Creationist" refers too specifically.

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GrandMasterTime wrote:
Creationism isn't mutually exclusive from other religions. So I don't see how that is "ironic", maybe you were thinking of another word.


No, its not, but the term is pretty much completely co-opted by the Christian fundamentalist variety in modern times and that is what the term "Creationist" refers too specifically.



Creationism refers to everything originating "from specific acts of divine creation.". Any form of theistic origin stories can be seen as creationist.
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This is probably the most reasonable explanation.
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Our ancestors made historical records explaining that they got honey from honey bees and cinnamon from flying cinnamon serpents. They weren't exactly 100% reliable.

I figure they saw cobras lifting their heads with their hood spread, spitting venom, and that's what inspired a lot of myths about the ability to fly, breath that burns, and the danger of meeting their gaze (it's pretty bad if a cobra spits in your eyes).
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Do you have idea how huge of a time frame gap there is between last dinosaur and first monkey who could paint is? Never mind that the climate that supported us could not support a traditional big ass dinosaur. Thats why the only ones left are birds and gators. -.-

,,,,flat earth evolutionists....Jesus we're going to go right down the rabbit hole here aren't we?

Evolutionists invented ...and are still wandering around in their rabbit hole, blind to any idea not conforming to their THEORY.

There is an assumption dinosaurs only existed before monkeys. Sharks ( and other living fossils) were around "before" monkeys, as with the coelacanth - which is not only still a fish millions of years after it supposedly went extinct, but is still a coelacanth. Our climate certainly could support a large dinosaur; though most Dinos were small. Gators and even boas grew much larger in the past; birds are not dinosaurs nor did they evolve from them.
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Chances are, our ancestors saw the fossilized bones of dinosaurs, & made stories of dragons based off that.

It would explain why so many different cultures has Dragons mixed into their stories.


That idea has been put foward by some people.

Adrienne Mayor has has arrgued, that the Greeks and the Roman based many of their visual images on the megafaunal fossils they observed around the shores of the Mediterranean Sea. one example she gives, is the Monster of Troy on a Greek vase painting circa 550 BC which strongly resembles the skull of a miocene giraffe.
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Be careful of taking images literally especially ones depicting monsters of any description. For example there are images of wild animals attacking castles in mediaeval England however; no historian believes that wolves and foxes attacked castles defended by monkeys.



Additionally, Greek travellers who went abroad often came back with reports of dragons and other fantastic monsters that they have personally witnessed. One traveller was Apollonius of Tyana who travelled to the southern foothills of the Himalayas in first century A.D. Apollonius returned to Greece and reported that the Asian countryside was filled with dragons. However, many of these "dragons" were often the bones of extinct megafauna

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Creationism refers to everything originating "from specific acts of divine creation.". Any form of theistic origin stories can be seen as creationist.


You're just arguing semantics and if you zip down to the history of creationism on the wiki page you're looking at you'll see what I'm talking about. The terms are associated with Christian fundamentalists in American history. We both know who I'm talking about so why are you trying to make an argument out of nothing?




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Evolutionists invented ...and are still wandering around in their rabbit hole, blind to any idea not conforming to their THEORY.


Ah, you're one of those types that don't know the difference between theory in a dictionary sense and theory in a scientific sense. Got it.
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GrandMasterTime wrote:
Creationism refers to everything originating "from specific acts of divine creation.". Any form of theistic origin stories can be seen as creationist.


You're just arguing semantics and if you zip down to the history of creationism on the wiki page you're looking at you'll see what I'm talking about. The terms are associated with Christian fundamentalists in American history. We both know who I'm talking about so why are you trying to make an argument out of nothing?

Listen all I'm saying is that I'm finding it hard to find the "irony" in your post. I'm not trying to have a go at you and belittle you I just don't see where the irony is at. I'll drop this just for you, how's that?

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dougeprofile wrote
Evolutionists invented ...and are still wandering around in their rabbit hole, blind to any idea not conforming to their THEORY.


Ah, you're one of those types that don't know the difference between theory in a dictionary sense and theory in a scientific sense. Got it.


The denialism is strong with that one. He's very much like a brick wall.
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God I wish dragons were real. Like... maybe they come from the moon? Or they come from space and they merely breed on the moon and then some younglings fly too close to the Earth and get pulled in by gravity? That's what I want to believe... no, I can totally swing that. I don't even have to disbelieve anything scientific, we've just been very unlucky with our documentation so far...
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AzuroHeart wrote:

So check this out, this is not a conspiracy theory.

People say scientifically Humans and Dinosaurs never saw each other but... then what the hell is this?!



Looks like a Stegosaurus!

Upon closer inspection it actually looks like a rhino in front of a bush. Stegosaurs did not have ears and a horn. (Note that the angle in this picture is rather deceptive. Go look at another picture of it.)


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Plus also, multiple languages has the same word and meaning "Dragon" on multiple cultures.

(English) "Dragon"
(Japanese) "Ryu" "Tatsu" 竜
(Chinese) "lóng" 龙
(German) Drachen

And so on, this "Dragon" Word and meaning exists universally as a reptile like creature.
Studying the Japanese Language has also help me learn that sometimes there's no literal words at times for other words in different languages.

So how is it that so many different Cultures and Languages have the exact same Word and Meaning?
And don't you think its strange that there's so many cultures that have folk lore and stories of people slaying dragons in Europe and Asia?

And statues as well riddles across lands even foreign to themselves.

The English word for Dragon probably comes from Drachen. Anyone who knows anything about the evolution of language knows that English takes a lot from German. I'm not exactly sure of why you brought up the Japanese and Chinese words for it. They don't seem to sound similar at all.

It is also worth noting that European and Asian Dragons are rather dissimilar. Asian Dragons take a lot more from snakes, while European Dragons take a lot more from Lizards and possibly bats. I wouldn't be surprised if fossils were found at least once a long time ago and ended up being used as proof for Dragons.
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