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Are we close to developing full-dive Nervegear-esque virtual reality? No we aren't anywhere near that. However that's not even what we are aiming for with current VR tech.

Human interaction is over rated anyways. Why have some cashier with an attitude who 7 out of 10 times will screw up the order when I can push a couple of buttons and be done.

Why is someone a twat for making a financially smart decision for their company? Why is enjoying the benefits of technology a reason to go kill yourself(though I don't really believe you think people should actually go electrocute themselves)? Why is wanting to create an ideal world that is different from reality a bad thing?


I would rather have a human who knows what they're doing than try and use and overly complicated machine that doesn't work. Self-service tills are infuriating because they never work properly. They have to hire staff to stand there and keep helping people use them when they go wrong, so what is the point? Why not just have those people on tills?

It's not an ideal world at all. If technology created everything it would be awful. It would be Hell for some people. Also, the plugging himself into an electric chair was meant to be ironic. These people seem to want to be plugged into something constantly and let machines take over, and have no respect for humans. So plug yourself into a chair and replace yourself with a machine, since humans are so worthless now apparently
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I've used the kiosks are McDonalds... will never use them again.
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now if the order's fscked I've got no one to blame

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Then when he calls someone to fix the problems with the machine: "That will be a $1000 please".


More like $2500 to $5000... A guy fixing an MRI machine was charging $850.00 per hour per person, two people on the job = $1700.00 per hour. Worked for 5 hours. This did not include parts ($20,000).

Imagine, what a tech would charge? Maybe $400.00 - $600.00 per hour (not including parts), works for 3 - 4 hours = $1200.00 - $2400.00 (not including parts). That's for repairs, but regular maintenance weekly? Daily? Skilled tech workers? $60.00 to $80.00 per hour. (You think that's too high? You want your restaurant to work, right? Then pay.)



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Ehhhh, if we can't outsource it to India, what makes them think they can outsource it to robots?


http://www.lse.ac.uk/researchAndExpertise/researchHighlights/societyMediaAndScience/Will-robots-replace-humans.aspx



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I've used the kiosks are McDonalds... will never use them again.


They're doing that at movie theaters....
Posted 3/21/16

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paul25454 wrote:

Then when he calls someone to fix the problems with the machine: "That will be a $1000 please".


More like $2500 to $5000... A guy fixing an MRI machine was charging $850.00 per hour per person, two people on the job = $1700.00 per hour. Worked for 5 hours. This did not include parts ($20,000).

Imagine, what a tech would charge? Maybe $400.00 - $600.00 per hour (not including parts), works for 3 - 4 hours = $1200.00 - $2400.00 (not including parts). That's for repairs, but regular maintenance weekly? Daily? Skilled tech workers? $60.00 to $80.00 per hour. (You think that's too high? You want your restaurant to work, right? Then pay.)



PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Ehhhh, if we can't outsource it to India, what makes them think they can outsource it to robots?


http://www.lse.ac.uk/researchAndExpertise/researchHighlights/societyMediaAndScience/Will-robots-replace-humans.aspx



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I've used the kiosks are McDonalds... will never use them again.


They're doing that at movie theaters....


I'm referring to laws that would stymie the transition from human to robot, especially when people like Trump want to take down Chinese outsourcing, so understandably they'd be against robots outsourcing as well?
Posted 3/21/16
I used the robots at McDonald's once. It was Kiosk/Chaos.
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Its really interesting how only America has a problem with giving people a living wage and make up all kinds of excuses for how horrible it would be and that everyone would then be replaced with robots.

While here in Europe everyone is laughing at America for freaking out about things that work really great here.

Thought I don't think it needs to be raised to $15 but it does needs to be raised. A person should not have to work two or more jobs just to afford a small single bedroom house/apartment.
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Its really interesting how only America has a problem with giving people a living wage and make up all kinds of excuses for how horrible it would be and that everyone would then be replaced with robots.

While here in Europe everyone is laughing at America for freaking out about things that work really great here.

Thought I don't think it needs to be raised to $15 but it does needs to be raised. A person should not have to work two or more jobs just to afford a small single bedroom house/apartment.


That comes to about $15.00 an hour. Individuals would get rid of one job, and have their lives back. That, in turn will open more jobs for others who are out of work...

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This is what happens when burger flippers demand $15/hr.
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At $15 an hour and a maximum of 40 hours per week, that's $600 per week $2400 a month
That is a lot more then a single person needs to be in a one room house/apartment even with bills and food.
Min wage is to pay for the minimum to live not so you can have lots of money extra to do fun stuff and buy extra things.
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Chaossal wrote:

Its really interesting how only America has a problem with giving people a living wage and make up all kinds of excuses for how horrible it would be and that everyone would then be replaced with robots.

While here in Europe everyone is laughing at America for freaking out about things that work really great here.

Thought I don't think it needs to be raised to $15 but it does needs to be raised. A person should not have to work two or more jobs just to afford a small single bedroom house/apartment.


That comes to about $15.00 an hour. Individuals would get rid of one job, and have their lives back. That, in turn will open more jobs for others who are out of work...



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At $15 an hour and a maximum of 40 hours per week, that's $600 per week $2400 a month
That is a lot more then a single person needs to be in a one room house/apartment even with bills and food.
Min wage is to pay for the minimum to live not so you can have lots of money extra to do fun stuff and buy extra things.

That $600/week for $15/hour is before taxes, Social Security, Medicare, Health Insurance ..... and assumes 40 hrs/week. Most retail positions limit an employee to <30 hrs/week to avoid having the worker qualify for full time.

40 hrs/week at $25 an hour is ~$600 a week take-home.

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I have several arguments about this. It's a love and hate relationship. I like part-time/un-skilled work since it helps young people to understand the working force and those who don't have qualifications can work somewhere.

This is coming from talking to a lot of people (My parents are immigrants so I connect to first generation kids on personal level). Anyways, immigration does help the economy grow and usually most of their kids go to university or some technical school to get a qualification.

But I think when people go to fast food chain, they aren't expecting customer service. I go to get food and sit down with friend, so I couldn't care if I had great customer experience nor I'm going there for a hot cashier.

And robots are likely not to mess up compare to a humans. You just need technician to look over robots so it's more convenience for companies.

Plus the companies get taxed if they have less workers vice versa they get tax breaks if they have a lot of workers. I'm not sure if this even outs but I could imagine it does.... So this doesn't hurt the economy.

I love people and I'm also one for a step forward for a technological future.
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Part-time fast food jobs were designed for kids just entering the work force, not middle aged illegals with 5 kids. Working in a Mc Donald's restaurant was never meant to be a career.
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