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Part-time fast food jobs were designed for kids just entering the work force, not middle aged illegals with 5 kids. Working in a Mc Donald's restaurant was never meant to be a career.


I'm not talking about illegal parents. Canada has big problem of letting people without any qualification enter Canada. Honestly, if you were a citizen with 5 kids working miserably at McD's. Do you time to get an education?
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Its really interesting how only America has a problem with giving people a living wage and make up all kinds of excuses for how horrible it would be and that everyone would then be replaced with robots.

While here in Europe everyone is laughing at America for freaking out about things that work really great here.

Thought I don't think it needs to be raised to $15 but it does needs to be raised. A person should not have to work two or more jobs just to afford a small single bedroom house/apartment.


The US is a large place, with extreme variances in cost of living. The federal minimum wage is livable in some areas, few as they might be. A minimum wage of $15/hour would barely be a livable wage in some areas, while it would be a lavish wage in others. When trying to set a federal minimum wage, it is difficult to maintain the balance for where that should be. The one-size-fits all wage just doesn't work in the US. Raising the minimum would be fine, if it is by small amounts, but larger jumps could cause excessive unemployment.
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It's going to be like when the gas stations started integrating the "self service" lanes - at first it was a curiosity, just there to get people moving through the ridiculous lines during the 70s gas crisis. Then they started replacing the full service lanes because more people were in a hurry and didn't want to wait while they got their gas, and had their oil checked, tire pressure checked, and windows cleaned. Plus it was cheaper for the gas stations - they no longer had to pay attendants to do those things. Now there's only one gas station I know of that still has a full service lane and they add a $5 charge if you use it.

The same thing happened with banks. First, you always had a live teller both inside and at the drive through. Then they got the ATM machines and people started skipping the teller because the machines were open 24-7 and located everywhere, while the tellers were only there during business hours. They added features to the machine so you can check your balance and other stuff, so now banks like Bank of America charge you every time you have to talk to a live teller. Figure out how to get quarters for the laundromat from an ATM, or how to cash in your US Series EE bonds at an ATM - there are just some times you need a live human and being charged for what used to be standard service is ridiculous.

I'm still waiting to see what it'll take for people to rebel against the airline companies. They've been shrinking the seat size, reducing the in flight snacks and meals to nothing, charging for luggage, limiting what you can pack in your luggage, and making flying much more inconvenient than it used to be. I've even heard of a company in Europe that is patenting a "standing flight" with no seats, just sholder things like in a roller coaster.

I just saw that Dominos is testing a robotic pizza delivery service. Bye bye food delivery jobs if it works out. http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/domino-s-debuts-pizza-delivery-robot-n541306
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But, will the kiosks dream of electric hamburgers and fries instead of electric sheep when they sleep? That is the question!
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ishe5555 wrote:The US is a large place, with extreme variances in cost of living. The federal minimum wage is livable in some areas, few as they might be. A minimum wage of $15/hour would barely be a livable wage in some areas, while it would be a lavish wage in others. When trying to set a federal minimum wage, it is difficult to maintain the balance for where that should be. The one-size-fits all wage just doesn't work in the US. Raising the minimum would be fine, if it is by small amounts, but larger jumps could cause excessive unemployment.


Compare rural southern West Virginia with Washington, D.C.

In parts of West Virginia a skilled machinist might only be making $12 an hour, but with a house costing <60k, he can support a family on that income. In DC, $15 an hour might rent you a room in a decent neighborhood and pay your subway fare.
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I wonder what will happen if they do go ahead with this and it works? I'm thinking, so many people will be out of work, that they will not be able to afford to eat at Carl's Jr, nor anywhere else, for that matter. Then the Fast food places will see massive declines in revenue, which will mean big rounds of restaurant closures. Only the middle class and wealthy will be able to afford to go to Burger King, and will have the ability to drive to their far flung locations.

You know, cause and effect...
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And yet movie theaters have been using kiosks for ages... Oh well. Not like people have figured that out yet.

All that happens is the job gets moved elsewhere.
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Humms wrote:

Yup, love the logic.

We don't want to keep paying people, so we will pay for the equivalent of 3 years pay for a single worker to replace with a single machine. So paying more money for a machine and not keeping a person, yup that sounds about right, paying more money to have maintenance and repairs done on that machine, yup that sounds about right, and we don't want to pay our workers more money because?

Makes me laugh. It really does. A Bullshit excuse, these chains and franchises have millions and billions of dollars, and they don't want to pay their workers more because they don't have the money to pay them? Da fuq are these people smoking? You know what I hope they do this so that fast food will die out, because i'm not walking up to a fucking machine that's going to be touched by hundreds of disgusting peoples hands.


Someone here doesn't know basic franchising 101.

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ishe5555 wrote:The US is a large place, with extreme variances in cost of living. The federal minimum wage is livable in some areas, few as they might be. A minimum wage of $15/hour would barely be a livable wage in some areas, while it would be a lavish wage in others. When trying to set a federal minimum wage, it is difficult to maintain the balance for where that should be. The one-size-fits all wage just doesn't work in the US. Raising the minimum would be fine, if it is by small amounts, but larger jumps could cause excessive unemployment.


Compare rural southern West Virginia with Washington, D.C.

In parts of West Virginia a skilled machinist might only be making $12 an hour, but with a house costing <60k, he can support a family on that income. In DC, $15 an hour might rent you a room in a decent neighborhood and pay your subway fare.


It's your own fault for living in DC in the first place.
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But, will the kiosks dream of electric hamburgers and fries instead of electric sheep when they sleep? That is the question!


I love Dick.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Yamstarch wrote:

But, will the kiosks dream of electric hamburgers and fries instead of electric sheep when they sleep? That is the question!


I love Dick.


Sadly I have only ever read A Scanner Darkly.
Posted 3/21/16

Yamstarch wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Yamstarch wrote:

But, will the kiosks dream of electric hamburgers and fries instead of electric sheep when they sleep? That is the question!


I love Dick.


Sadly I have only ever read A Scanner Darkly.


Oh, thought we were talking about the one on a man.

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hey i support this. cant tell you how many times they annoy me with there slow as mosallasis, im getting paided by the hour IDGF attitude.
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VZ68 wrote:

It's your own fault for living in DC in the first place.


Southern West Virginia may have a much lower cost of living, but it has no jobs and very little public transportation.

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Dariamus wrote:


VZ68 wrote:

It's your own fault for living in DC in the first place.


Southern West Virginia may have a much lower cost of living, but it has no jobs and very little public transportation.



Isn't that because of the anti-coal feelings of the current administration?

It's been quite some time since I was around Nitro WV, hell, the last time I was near DC was 50 miles out and 10 years ago. Not a fan of the Northeast.
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