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But, will the kiosks dream of electric hamburgers and fries instead of electric sheep when they sleep? That is the question!


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It's your own fault for living in DC in the first place.


Southern West Virginia may have a much lower cost of living, but it has no jobs and very little public transportation.



Isn't that because of the anti-coal feelings of the current administration?

It's been quite some time since I was around Nitro WV, hell, the last time I was near DC was 50 miles out and 10 years ago. Not a fan of the Northeast.

Not really.

The coal industry is doing well, and is the only job that pays worth a damn in the area. All the other industries have moved overseas.

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Yup, love the logic.

We don't want to keep paying people, so we will pay for the equivalent of 3 years pay for a single worker to replace with a single machine. So paying more money for a machine and not keeping a person, yup that sounds about right, paying more money to have maintenance and repairs done on that machine, yup that sounds about right, and we don't want to pay our workers more money because?

Makes me laugh. It really does. A Bullshit excuse, these chains and franchises have millions and billions of dollars, and they don't want to pay their workers more because they don't have the money to pay them? Da fuq are these people smoking? You know what I hope they do this so that fast food will die out, because i'm not walking up to a fucking machine that's going to be touched by hundreds of disgusting peoples hands.


Someone here doesn't know basic franchising 101.



Make customers push buttons instead of hired workers, pretty simple.

Hell they can even get customers to cook their food as well in attempts to teach people the value of cooking.

LMAO, I understand why, but that's the problem.
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Transformers burger flippers in disguise burgerbots wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of the nuggetcons.
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When I was first in college my GF, a few friends and I took a few hr ride to NYC just to go to a nostalgic automat we heard of. It had I thinking that maybe once we graduate we should start one of our own. It never came to be but I still love the romanticism of the classic automat open 24 hours, 7 days a week where you can just go hang with friends, work on classwork or just take in the atmosphere of the whole scene without worry of being thrown out for taking too long. If it's done right Carl Jr's has a chance of bringing back a classic piece of Americana. If not, well I can see plenty of lawsuits due to reason #2 on Sensheiken's list.
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If they went with them being based on the GUI of the soda fountains except with burgers and all, it would be pretty self intuitive. People would still find a way to screw it up, plus general wear and tear on the screen and housing. But overall it would probably work out okay. If you really can't figure it out there could be an option for calling someone to take your order manually.

The kitchen staff would probably be left alone at least for a while.
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I'm wondering how many extra POS robots they'd need due to idiots being unable to order. A trained minimum wage worker can quickly and easily order for a person after a week or two(until there are specials or drastic menu changes.) Maybe technology has changed since the time I worked fastfood, but it would take a while for employees to learn how to place an order... and they'd work 5.45 hours a day(JUST enough to not take a break.)
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What a complete twat. I just don't understand why there are people who want to replace every human with a robot and replace every kind of real life activity with something virtual. If you like technology so much, do us all a favour and go plug yourself into an electric chair.


You do realize you're posting this on a web site that replaced human-operated specialty video stores with computers for watching streaming videos, right?

For a fraction of the cost, at that...
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I'm wondering how many extra POS robots they'd need due to idiots being unable to order. A trained minimum wage worker can quickly and easily order for a person after a week or two(until there are specials or drastic menu changes.) Maybe technology has changed since the time I worked fastfood, but it would take a while for employees to learn how to place an order... and they'd work 5.45 hours a day(JUST enough to not take a break.)


Three open should be enough, just look at the retards trying to use the self check out at walmart
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Speerhausen wrote:

I'm wondering how many extra POS robots they'd need due to idiots being unable to order. A trained minimum wage worker can quickly and easily order for a person after a week or two(until there are specials or drastic menu changes.) Maybe technology has changed since the time I worked fastfood, but it would take a while for employees to learn how to place an order... and they'd work 5.45 hours a day(JUST enough to not take a break.)


Three open should be enough, just look at the retards trying to use the self check out at walmart


Self checkouts at grocery stores and department stores are there so that when you spend forever waiting in line for a cashier to check your items, you remember how much worse it is at the self-checkout lines.
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VZ68 wrote:


Speerhausen wrote:

I'm wondering how many extra POS robots they'd need due to idiots being unable to order. A trained minimum wage worker can quickly and easily order for a person after a week or two(until there are specials or drastic menu changes.) Maybe technology has changed since the time I worked fastfood, but it would take a while for employees to learn how to place an order... and they'd work 5.45 hours a day(JUST enough to not take a break.)


Three open should be enough, just look at the retards trying to use the self check out at walmart


Self checkouts at grocery stores and department stores are there so that when you spend forever waiting in line for a cashier to check your items, you remember how much worse it is at the self-checkout lines.


Doesn't bother me much since I don't shop at places like that, then again, I'd trust myself more than some kid that just got done taking bong rips in the cooler to get my order right.
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Self checkouts at grocery stores and department stores are there so that when you spend forever waiting in line for a cashier to check your items, you remember how much worse it is at the self-checkout lines.


I love the self checkouts. They are almost always much faster than waiting for a cashier. Not only are the lines for them typically faster (and usually shorter), but I can check out in a self checkout at least 50% faster than through a cashier.
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^ This

More convenient. McD's has self checkout which makes it especially convenient when some brood mother is taking her sperm blossom flock to be fed like cattle. No offence to brood mothers.

Ignoring the political rhetoric, companies are always just trying to find new ways to compete. If they can do so by cutting costs then so be it, but as a business major, one of the first things you learn is that cutting costs is like plugging a hole in a sinking ship with chewing gum and duct tape. It's a stop-gap solution that'll work until you run out of costs to cut or until someone can cut more costs than you can (price leaders like Costco and McD's), but companies that excel have a sustainable long-term competitive advantage. What does Carl's Junior do better than McD's? I honestly don't know. Even if they fully automate, what's that going to do for them in the long term, because it's not an advantage they can maintain. Look at what happened when subway copied arby's toster oven, remember seeing those toaster oven commercials 15 or so years ago? (who cares right?) If they fully automate and succeed, everyone else is just going to copy them and they'll be right back to square one, and who will they blame then?

I would focus on my core business which is...uh...making hamburgers? Don't know the company that well obviously, but this sounds like stockholder posturing. I think smexy TV ads and superbowl commercials did more for their company in the past five years than a fully automated strategy ever will. Because that's one thing I haven't seen any other fast food company copy (maybe they have but not that I've seen). Speaking of, I haven't seen any of those recently, so perhaps they really are just floundering.
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No, it's not that. Most franchisees make a long term investment anyway. It can take them years to finally turn the store into pure profit after buying (depending on their loan, or if there even was one), and they usually sign a contract for 10+ years. They're prepared to take those kinds of risks if it means that they'll profit in the long run. I don't think it's feasible for them to drop everyone simultaneously, but a person here or there, until it becomes a more cost effective option. I doubt there will ever be a store completely devoid of a human element.

I'm not really advocating one way or another. To my understanding there are already self-service kiosks in some fast food chains. It's not the robot people are imaging, but rather just a screen that tries to upsell while you select what you want.

Anyway, this is the way of the future, but I'll agree that, that CEO didn't word himself very well, and now he seems like a complete ass. It seems more like a threat than a solution. Coming from someone with a multi-million dollar salary, complaints about the minimum wage just seem obnoxious, I get it.
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