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I am Proud....TO BE A SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR!!!
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Posted 3/17/16 , edited 3/17/16
The point of the title is to point out the over-the-top irrationality of a normally good cause. Most people care about a Just Society. Social Justice is great on paper. the Social Justice Warrior came about when some arm chair social generals started dirtying the water by picking dumb fights. The "warrior" is meant to show how often SJWs turn every social issue into a battleground where the entrants fight to the death, and every issue no matter how small are worth ruining even their friends over.

For example I had an old friend who state that they thought Madoka Magica was a bad show because "They walked like hookers." which they attributed to the sexist and backwards magical girl genre. There are many legit criticisms I can tolerate for that show, but they aren't unreasonable like that. That person is an SJW. They'd constantly ignore art and story in any show or game and grill 'friends' endlessly on the American-centric social issues. I didn't end my friendship with them, they cut me off. On other issues that came up in recent years they blocked and banned me on every platform for not immediately siding with them on issues.

SJW is a term to express those who have gone too far. It isn't impossible to take back the term and transform it into something positive, but with all the recent college campus meltdowns and the election season about to really get started (as if it wasn't already!) trying to reclaim a term is gonna be delayed. Just look how dirty a word Otaku is to non-Otaku, even after all these decades of trying to take it back.

Frankly I'd just try to find a word that is more descriptive and less stereotyped, unless you're really invested on keeping it. In whcih case it'll be an uphill struggle to reclaim it.

Personally, I'm a libertarian that'd prefer we get all past this stuff. We're at the height of human civilization right now! While I wish for things to get even better, I think those crapping over everyone else for differing opinions need to cool off.
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H_Guderian wrote:
SJW is a term to express those who have gone too far.


That was its original purpose, sure. Post gamergate its thrown around at basically anyone raising the slightest objection to someone else being a dick about a social issue. The term has essentially lost legitimacy since being popularized by GG. For all sides. As it can't be used as a legitimate criticism anymore either due to its far more popular usage as a blanket insult/dismissive.





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I can agree on that!

The internet forces us all into close proximity yet while being so far away...

Like in a 200+ page thread, one guy isn't gonna read all that, so he'll just post 'whatever', or someone posts to a large Hashtag-of-the-week and find out he didn't do 6 hours of research to find out the implications and starts some serious internet drama. Hell I misread the PATCHNOTES for a game once because I just got home from work and was tired, and asked a question in the game's forums and there were two pages insulting my ability to read and fitness to be alive. Bah!

honestly who coulda predicted the internet would be this troublesome? Its hard enough to decide what shows to watch without the layer of 'who-hates-who' behind the scenes.
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runec wrote:


H_Guderian wrote:
SJW is a term to express those who have gone too far.


That was its original purpose, sure. Post gamergate its thrown around at basically anyone raising the slightest objection to someone else being a dick about a social issue. The term has essentially lost legitimacy since being popularized by GG. For all sides. As it can't be used as a legitimate criticism anymore either due to its far more popular usage as a blanket insult/dismissive.







This. the word has lost all of it's original connotations due to misapplication. Anyone making any social criticism of anything is some SJW social Marxist feminazi, even if they made their case civilly and supported their claims.
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I must add to what you say and recall a time when I was an art hobbyist. In the group we often critiqued other's work. One day someone posted something and I went right on ahead and gave feedback. Constructive, of course. The artist got really upset and I logically point out I was justified given past precedence in the art group. Other people in the group backed the other artist and I couldn't fathom why.

In this Post-SJW Post-GG world, I understand a bit why now. Sometimes we're all just here to enjoy a piece of art, or the pleasure of friends. Not every piece of art a person submitted to our art group was asking for a full dressing down. They just wanted to share. For once to just draw something and not worry about the implications or quality. I was to that art group, what people fear SJWs are. Someone that couldn't turn off for 5 minutes. I was surely justified, but that didn't mean I was 'right.'

Even if you're 100% 'correct' if the context changes all of a sudden everything goes to shit. In the past couple of years how many times have you seen a person's point you agreed with torn apart all due to the context it was presented? Maybe that's the hidden meaning.
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Social Justice Warrior? Like Public Defender Attorneys? Public fund donor? A volunteer? This world is not what used to be.
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Posted 3/17/16 , edited 3/19/16

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The reason that some people are called SJW's is because their somewhat authoritarian in nature. They try to force their views onto other people through censorship (Video Games) in some cases and they believe their so self-righteous. + They get oversensitive over extremely small things. And they act too PC.

That being said though, just because you stand for Social justice or feminism doesn't mean you're an SJW. Both those causes are legitimate, it's just that a small minority of feminists and others tend to go overboard. Some conservatives are just as bad (some are legitimately anti-feminist) as well and probably overuse the word SJW. Nonetheless, they still exist just like many other extremes in other groups of people.

I consider myself a moderate liberal. Progressive on most issues but at the same time, try not to go overboard (For example, not afraid of criticizing certain muslims but not overgeneralizing either).



Feminism isn't a legitimate movement and even if it were, has been unnecessary for half a century.

Social Justice is mob justice with a peace symbol.
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I've been called an SJW, Feminist, and a white knight in one thread simply because I said people don't deserve to have their lives threatened. I see 'SJW' being thrown around so much, that it lost it's true meaning! I just checked Youtube, typed in SJW and switched the filter to today, and there are two pages of crap people have posted. Not all of it is about social justice warriors, but there's enough crap there to prove anyones point.

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PV, four years ago if you would have asked me what I thought about a "social justice warrior" I might have said "Wow, that sounds pretty cool. Like some egalitarian that fights for the underdogs.". I might have also said that there was nothing wrong with feminism, because by definition, there isn't. I wouldn't have the rights as an individual I do today if it weren't for the sweat and blood of women in the last century and part of the one preceding, but we desperately needed a feminism movement then. The pining, self-righteous, privilege labelling people that have the loudest voice of today are almost exclusively from either the US, Canada, or EU. They no longer need to worry about oppression, but unfortunately many other people around the world do, and they aren't lucky enough to have a feminist movement or liberalism, lest they be shot down for it.

Surely someone as intelligent as you can see why sjws, feminism, and radical liberals have held a negative connotation in the public eye over the past couple years. I know you do.
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Being an SJW is not something to be proud of.
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You know you are a real SJW when you actually use the word TRIGGERED to actually say something offends you, and not as a way to make fun of SJW's.
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I really hope OP is trolling.
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To be proud is to ignore yourself
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Good for you PV, no one really cares if we are all honest, even if I heavily oppose most within the SJW crowd, I have become so Fucking sick of the arguments. Just don't try to mess with the rest of us, and we will all be fine. Not like I am surprised that you are an SJW, it was kinda obvious.



This world is a fucking mess.

My life is a fucking mess.

I fucking hate this body of mine. It's fucked.





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Does this mean that right wingers are social justice enemies?
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