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Posted 3/19/16

Dabossman26 wrote:
because people are thinking on an individual level versus a national level. A good chunk of the population thinks this because they think "I'm just 1/100000000 people, my vote won't matter". This mentality is bad because if enough people pick up said mentality, there WILL be a difference in the resulting election. Also, some people just don't like politics in general so they don't want to deal with it all.


this is only part of the reason. in the US, there's something called gerrymandering, which basically give tremendous advantage to one party.
(to the point, if you are in favor of an opposing party, your vote is as good as null). also, people don't vote to the President directly.
for more info, check my previous post.
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Bloody compulsory voting over here. I don't don't don't desire to vote because I think it doesn't mean anything rather I don't don't don't desire to vote because I hate all the parties (Except the party that wants to abolish compulsory voting, that party has my vote).
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The system in the US is as follows:

The general election is held where common citizens vote.

Depending on the general election the Electoral College of each state casts their ballot.

The Electoral college, following the general election, decides who the state votes for.

This then goes into combination with the other states to decide who gets the 372, Or whatever the bloody number is, of votes.

Honestly I'd be up for abolishing the Electoral College but that's another discussion.

To answer the question I'd say because their candidate lost multiple times in the past. You lose enough and it becomes the "Systems" fault and not yours. From that end people would chock it up to the Illuminati or what have you, deciding the course for America.

Another issue, some people choose not to vote due to them not being informed well enough. I fall into this category personally. And choose not to vote.

The statistics are another problem, as another said "I'm just one out of thirty billion/three hundred billion people," (Can't remember the US pop. right now.) My vote won't have any impact.
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Posted 3/19/16 , edited 3/19/16
Theres plenty of reasons mentioned but the one I was thinking of, Dabossman said it.

Aside from the whole not vote directly thing that happens in the US, and Canada as well(though our system is much different), it's there is a major problem that makes things worse here. Being very individualistic, citizens think about what their vote will do(which is essentially nothing by itself) instead of them being part of the collective society which is the nation. This destructive view leads to abysmal voter turnout.
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Posted 3/20/16

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Dabossman26 wrote:
because people are thinking on an individual level versus a national level. A good chunk of the population thinks this because they think "I'm just 1/100000000 people, my vote won't matter". This mentality is bad because if enough people pick up said mentality, there WILL be a difference in the resulting election. Also, some people just don't like politics in general so they don't want to deal with it all.


this is only part of the reason. in the US, there's something called gerrymandering, which basically give tremendous advantage to one party.
(to the point, if you are in favor of an opposing party, your vote is as good as null). also, people don't vote to the President directly.
for more info, check my previous post.


I know how it all really works, but i didn't feel like going through it all. Took a US gov and econ class and did some research on my own. I just didn't feel like writing an essay on my phone
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People who do not vote are one or all of these reasons:
1. Lazy
2. Ignorant
3. Have no Faith in Government
4. Don't realize the importance in standing up for what you believe in (sheep for the Slaughter)
5. Ignorant in World Economics and Local Economics
6. Have a huge misunderstanding of Life (it is not 42)
7. Don't have the patience or cognitive capability to understand Politics in the slightest when anyone can understand the simplest of it and don't take the time to even attempt to learn about their citizen rights and end up getting taken advantage of
8. View 1 vote out of the whole Population of said country and think " Other people will vote therefore I don't need to vote"
9. Fail to understand that that way of thinking will get your rights taken away.
10. Just like to watch the World burn.

If you live in a country where your Rights for Freedom and Liberty are important and you don't want to lose them and never vote, your very freedom that was given to you will be lost forever, simply because you didn't stand for your OWN rights. People these days especially the Millenials and the newest generation need to understand, what you have, even if its hardly anything can be taken away from you. Voting is not some tedious and redundant task that a citizen should do, its your very Life that you are voting for.

At the very least, shift your View, look at things in a different way, if you still don't like it, shift your view again until you can see clearly.

Your rights are your Life. Treasure them and don't let someone else have your rights. They are yours and only yours, protect them and stand up for them.
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Why?

I'll tell you why, oh I'm going to tell you why alright. Just you wait because as soon as I tell you why all of this will actually make sense. Just the explanation of this whole situation will have bettered your life in some way shape or form. Even now when you are anticipating my answer you will know why.

You better believe I'm going to tell you why.

That is the entire election summed up, and when I kick back as I laugh at all the Bullshit being told to me, I'll crack open a nice cold one as I enjoy life not voting, and waiting for the inevitable to soon hit me. When will that be? Who cares, just live life now, and not for tomorrow.
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Well as far as the presidential election is concerned, people often say that when they're a minority voter in their state. Also, they run nothing but clowns so you often are left with a "lesser of two evils" sort of situation.

I mean, my own voting priorities have never been so freaking weird. I've been a moderate Republican for as long as I've followed politics. But out of the people running right now my voting priorities are:
Kasich
Sanders
Trump
Third Party
Cruz
Any other human I could write in
Clinton

Seriously a weird election. I've never been all over the map like this

People should definitely vote though. A lot of folks look to the Presidential election as their grand reason for not voting, even though its equally, if not more important to vote for all the other stuff. Especially on the local and state levels.
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Posted 3/20/16 , edited 3/20/16

archangel940 wrote:

People who do not vote are one or all of these reasons:
1. Lazy
2. Ignorant
3. Have no Faith in Government
4. Don't realize the importance in standing up for what you believe in (sheep for the Slaughter)
5. Ignorant in World Economics and Local Economics
6. Have a huge misunderstanding of Life (it is not 42)
7. Don't have the patience or cognitive capability to understand Politics in the slightest when anyone can understand the simplest of it and don't take the time to even attempt to learn about their citizen rights and end up getting taken advantage of
8. View 1 vote out of the whole Population of said country and think " Other people will vote therefore I don't need to vote"
9. Fail to understand that that way of thinking will get your rights taken away.
10. Just like to watch the World burn.


if people wanted to see the world burn, they'd vote for Trump (even Republicans hate him, yet he's the most popular candidate. i don't even)
as for #1 - #3 and #9, see my previous posts.

lol at saying that knowledge in economics will do any good, when you can't change the current system.
(by "you", i of course mean anyone. that is, no-one (willing) is able to change the system. people who can change the system benefit from it and have no reason to change it)
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My vote doesn't really matter. I will vote Democrat. My county will vote Republican despite my vote. My state will vote Democrat despite my county's vote. It's been that way my whole life. I still vote though. It's a civic duty, and if you don't vote you have no right to complain about your leaders - and I love to complain about my leaders
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IShouldBeStudying wrote:

how is this a troll thread?
I think you just wanted to use this picture


How is this not a troll thread? You make a post about a hotly debated issue and your only argument is "lololol ppl not voting dmges ur cuntry"
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What I am amazed by is people that don't vote in the primary and then complain about the available choices in the general election. You can always write in your choice. A bunch of my class did that in high school and we elected Mickey Mouse. The principal was PO'd.
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Posted 3/20/16

Mirai_Maku wrote:


IShouldBeStudying wrote:

how is this a troll thread?
I think you just wanted to use this picture


How is this not a troll thread? You make a post about a hotly debated issue and your only argument is "lololol ppl not voting dmges ur cuntry"


I'm not arguing anything. I'm asking a question. Sounds like you just have a troll mindset
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Posted 3/20/16
Cause they're lazy or not informed.
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IShouldBeStudying wrote:

Every time someone brings up the Race there's always that person saying "you're dumb, your vote won't matter anyway, blah blah blah"

I doubt this is true, but I don't really know why a lot of people have this mindset. It sounds pretty damaging



The simple reason if a lot more terrifying then you would think the more people that vote in an election the harder it is for one group to swing it in their favor. Mainly Republicans now you can say this is tin foil hat but there is lots of history behind this in the form of vote caging and other voter suppression tactics that Republicans have been using for decades now like requiring ID voter fraud which they claim this stops is as rare as hens teeth so to speak. This is simply a means by which to make it harder for those folks without ID to vote, they also do things like limit the number of machines in high ethnic areas and such. Then they also have guys like Paul Weyrich(Google him bits of history there) out there actually challenging peoples right to actual vote at the poll. Thankfully old Paul is dead and gone but his ideas remain and others have taken up his mantel.

So yes I want everyone who can vote to be involved and vote. Why it means the few don't have the ability to swing the election if it is close. Also vote in every election the local ones are really important that way you don't end up like Flint. A prime example of what happens when government is run like a business. No really vote get your friends to vote it is the only way to take back your government.
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