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Religion vs Science
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http://www.zootle.net/afda/religion-vs-science.shtml

what do u think about this?
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i think this topic might be covered under the creationism vs. evolution thread...

But!!!!!

I think they are two different things and give the world two different things..
Religion gives the world a good moral set to live thier lives by.
Don't kill people, dont' steal stuff, don't screw your neighbor's wife etc etc

While science gives fundemental basics of life.
It gives the world a greater understanding of where everything comes from, and why it's there..

Edit: Both things, however do ask the basic questions of who are we, and why are we here.
It's a persons mind that makes them choose to follow one or the other of the above. Some follow both...
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I dont even need to place any comments to this topic....
but dusters right...... p.s. find the link on your own hehe
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yea i agree with dusterbayala...well i mean its exactly the way i feel..nothin else to say
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Religion and science go hand in hand. They are essentially the same thing. A way to explain things. Personally I am a religious individual and also a character who values science. You should read, “God and the new Physics.” I purchased it today. Anyway I think that science and math are the devices God used to create the world. I think putting science up against religion is absurd, personally. I think they complement one another.
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I completely disagree with you. Science and religion do not intertwine with each other at all.

I believe in myself, and those around me.
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i always thought that religion was for those who needed to believe in miracles. i believe in what i can do with my own two hands. whats the point in waiting for god to step in? if thats so then might as well lay in bed all day till i see a 'sign' that im supposed to do this or that. its just a matter of trusting myself more than i trust that god will take care of me. im not looking down on anyone or anything, to each their own.
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Science doesn't revolve around the beliefs of one that CANNOT be proven to exist, IE God. Beliefs such as that will most likely do bad for science really, when you become a scientist you NEED to know that you're religion may NOT be true, because that'll cause later problems. Seraph the book you got probably was from some Christian scientist who THINKS he/she found how God exists, but in actuality has invalid proof. I mean seriously science so far CANNOT prove a being such as that exists. Religion gives some morals, but most of them are just common sense things. And the others are pure crap. Seriously I do not need religious texts to tell me what's write or wrong, it's all in my common sense really.
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The issue i have with religion is there are so many different ways to interpret it,one person may have the quran read to him and told that all people who do not believe in islam must be killed and there on lead a life which ultimately leads to them sucide bombing a building.
Were as another man may read it and feel enlightend and lead a good life set by the book principles.
Or the bible take the godhatesfag group (it's a cult basically)they had read to them that America is screwed because of the gays it said so in the bible so now they protest at funerals and picket other churches and there children are being brain washed with this to.
Of course like wise a man can read the bible give up sinning and live by how the bible says you should.
My point is that religion is interipted diffrently to each person and people can exploit this and effectifally control the masses(see english monstary in 1500's-1800's somewhere around there i skipped a few history lessons).were they told people if you didn't pay the church your of to hell.
Now science it's there the facts are laid out and unless your proving otherwise with some hard "EVIDENCE"it's staying that way.Of course no way am i saying science is always right but it's a lot more concrete than religion.

Disclaimer-these were two examples of religions,there are 100s of religions i choose to religions i had a little knowledge of.
These are my points of view which i choose to stick by like how you stick to yours -.-"
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26 / M / UK
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bloody idiots! why did they only discuss the empirical side of it. the professor could have easily countered with some Decartes (so could the first christian for that matter).

Is this really a philosophy class?! The professor is way too close minded to be any good at the subject! The whole point of a philosophical discussion is that you argue about something no need to get angry when someone else slaps a decent point in your face, and he was practically bullying the first kid (who was pretty shit)

Overall this is basic philosophy which you learn in like the first term of a philosophy course.



Anyway. my opinion on God.
No such person. Philosophy prooves it numerous times and philosophers who argue against it have failed to convince.

But faith has been around as long as humans and its part of our very core, to ignore it completely is stupid. Im a Substance Dualist ( wikipedia.org it!! ) so i believe theres more than just the body and the physical world. Despite one part of me refuting that possibility completely.
Philosophy only disproves the ideal of a traditional god so i say make your own ideal, doesnt matter if its true or not as long as it helps.

Shit ive rambled on far too long so as an apology and a reward for reading it (if you did you must have been REALLY bored!) heres a picture of some wolfs
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that was sorta funny actually, for me that is. i agree with the fact that religion and science complement each other and all, im not very fond of neither. i just go with the flow.
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I think it amusing, that is all. Well, clearly propaganda as well. In fact, the usual way part of this story goes is the student talking back to the teacher ends up being Albert Einstein, which is of course foolish. Of course the professor is pompous and preposterous, and got a got a number of thing wrong.

Now, lets take moment and remember who started this thread, and how it was started. I have no problem whatsoever with this being locked, unless people want to discuss the issues actually raised in the link. For instance, that evil is merely the lack of goodness. Assuming it is, though i see this largely as playing with words, it does not really explain much of anything. God being all powerful could have created just goodness for everyone eh, and thus one goes beyond the scope of the article.
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For some ppl, having an afterlife is important but what separates us from say a chimp, dog, or plant, not much just art and believing in something even if its nothing. we r not much different than any animal, put an average joe with no survival experience in the wild and what happens, maybe if hes lucky he might survive if not he dies, cuz the instincts r not as hardwired in us as in animals... religion became more elaborate and complicated when written language was created, so that future generations built upon previous generations... ur choice if u believe or not, science is present in everything we do...
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That was kinda stupid. And I agree with Eros with the whole play on words thing.

All I could think of was while reading that was what I would have said to the teacher and what I'd have said to the teacher. All I could think at the start was the absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence, and by the end all I could think was this teacher was an idiot. You can't compare Science and Religion, it's just stupid to try. The teacher was an idiot in the story, and so was the teacher. Sorry for my paragraph seeming all over the place, I suck at typing and listening to music.
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SokoLoko788 wrote:

For some ppl, having an afterlife is important but what separates us from say a chimp, dog, or plant, not much just art and believing in something even if its nothing. we r not much different than any animal, put an average joe with no survival experience in the wild and what happens, maybe if hes lucky he might survive if not he dies, cuz the instincts r not as hardwired in us as in animals... religion became more elaborate and complicated when written language was created, so that future generations built upon previous generations... ur choice if u believe or not, science is present in everything we do...



Yeh but the average joe's instincts arent wired to deal with that situation. i mean the human instinct is to seek others, build a community and survive by supporting eachother which we've done and been very successful! theres nothing that separates us its just we ROCK at surviving. Every animal has its advantages, we have intellect, which worked out pretty well ... for us.
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