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https://youtu.be/95t2KV-tqCA
soo yeah... it ain't pretty to leave or stay.
and well... many of them will find gangs/terror connections and "bond" to them (since they most likely talk the same language..)
and that will be an easier factor to create someone to blow themselfs up.. (so expect more to come.. agian)

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Oh yeah. I said this as soon as all the "news" started with Isis a long time ago. Showing them flag waving and gun toting on our worldwide news feed is exactly playing into their hands.
Yeah cind of hate that when something just gets more then what they need (or something like that)

That coupled with all the local yokels wanting to judge and persecute anyone with brown skin.

Heck there was an article and brief news excerpt even on the national news back before thanksgiving of a local Islamic foundation in my home town wanting to build a mosque just down the road from me next door to a local community center.

The local leader even had a few open houses where bigots showed up and told him that they needed to leave and no mosque should be allowed there, etc. etc.
Well I don't like the mosque idea at all, even though I still think people should be allowed a place to beg.. again looking at france or UK I would kind of want to say otherwise.
I don't really know what they need for it to beg in? (as christians just something that looks like a church, can it also be done different while asian religions did tackle it differently by making something at home, as well some muslims around where I live they are just more modern then that)... so I dunno, really..
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Freddy do you have spell check or word? you have so many spelling errors
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Well this hits a little close to home
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Yamstarch wrote:
The local leader even had a few open houses where bigots showed up and told him that they needed to leave and no mosque should be allowed there, etc. etc.


I do recall some morons literally showing up with guns at one mosque. Because Sharia law or some idiocy. Texas of course.



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Well I don't like the mosque idea at all, even though I still think people should be allowed a place to beg.. again looking at france or UK I would kind of want to say otherwise.

I don't really know what they need for it to beg in? (as christians just something that looks like a church, can it also be done different while asian religions did tackle it differently by making something at home, as well some muslims around where I live they are just more modern then that)... so I dunno, really..


I sincerely am not 100% sure what you're trying to say here.

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This is a severe black day for my country. There are indications that more than 30 innocent people died and more than 200 people are injured at this moment. The news has been going on here since this morning.
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DeathlyForceX wrote: There are indications that more than 30 innocent people died and more than 200 people are injured at this moment. The news has been going on here since this morning.
here too with the news, but wonder how many more that count will rise ofc through the day and some after.

Atleast when they wanted to use spikes in their explosives..
So it was more focus for creating terror then the one in France? (if not they had connections to the one captured so they wanted some chain reaction from that and how much "power" they hold as in when and how they can do it?)


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DeathlyForceX, so sorry that you are so close to the tragedy this morning. It's been non-stop on the news here in Washington DC all day also. Our local police forces have activated extra men and K9s and are focusing on protecting the local travel hubs, airports, metro, busses, etc.

Perhaps you can tell me one thing the news has not been able to - how many hospitals are effected by these terrorist acts? From the news here there were 32 dead but over 200 wounded and that's an awful lot of casualties for hospitals to deal with at one time. Do you know if they are having blood drives to help the survivors? I'm interested in how the medical system in other countries deals with mass casualty incidents like this or the Haiti earthquake etc.
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Perhaps you can tell me one thing the news has not been able to - how many hospitals are effected by these terrorist acts? From the news here there were 32 dead but over 200 wounded and that's an awful lot of casualties for hospitals to deal with at one time. Do you know if they are having blood drives to help the survivors? I'm interested in how the medical system in other countries deals with mass casualty incidents like this or the Haiti earthquake etc.


The Red Cross is coordinating a lot of it. There are/were blood drives and there 15 hospitals that took in patients. They also opened up military hospitals as well which were doing triage and then sending patients on to other hospitals as needed. The influx of casualties is within the capacity of the system. Blood donations weren't even required or were filled quite quickly at some of the hospitals ( The Red Cross dispatched blood to two hospitals that were short ). Some hospitals had to start turning away donors.

So from a medical standpoint its been handled very effectively.

Edit: If you have Google translate going the Belgian Red Cross is posting updates:
http://www.croix-rouge.be/actualites/nouvelles/attentats-a-bruxelles-les-secours-mobilises/
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That's good to know, thanks again Runec. I hadn't heard any of that info in the reports I've been listening to here.
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That's good to know, thanks again Runec. I hadn't heard any of that info in the reports I've been listening to here.


The Belgian health minister gave a statement on how many hospitals were involved, etc. Its on European news sites but yeah, will probably take a bit to filter down to state side media.
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Red Cross mostly is quite good, and have their rutines, filling, checking, blood bank (doing busses now to get as much as possible as burned damages cost VERY.. Very much blood to repair or doing a operation?)

Well having states would be more horrible with communication wouldn't it?
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It makes a difference that the hospitals have power and the emergency vehicles are not dealing with a collapsed infrastructure (ie collapsed buildings, water main breaks, downed power lines). When you deal with a mass casualty that takes out the support like an earthquake, tidal wave, or hurricane can the ability to manage the patient care becomes much more complicated.
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It makes a difference that the hospitals have power and the emergency vehicles are not dealing with a collapsed infrastructure (ie collapsed buildings, water main breaks, downed power lines). When you deal with a mass casualty that takes out the support like an earthquake, tidal wave, or hurricane can the ability to manage the patient care becomes much more complicated.


Or dealing with poor communication / preparedness / an already overtaxed system, etc where no one knows what anyone else is doing ( See Hurricane Katrina ). I worked in the call centres for the Red Cross during Katrina. Total shitshow ( Not the Red Cross, but everything the RC was trying to deal with at a local and state level ).

Not to mention the idiots. Every damn time there was a major disaster or something you'd get the idiots. The ones who call in just to give us their advice / great ideas on what we should do. Or offer stupid shit like hey they have an old fishing boat out back that we're welcome too if we wanna swing by and grab it.

Yeah, totally. We'll swing by your place in god damn Utah, pick up your rusty fishing boat and truck it down to New Orleans. That'll be a great help, thanks. I'm sure the people waiting on hold behind you to ask if we know if their relatives are dead really appreciate it. -.-

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Razor_Girl wrote:

DeathlyForceX, so sorry that you are so close to the tragedy this morning. It's been non-stop on the news here in Washington DC all day also. Our local police forces have activated extra men and K9s and are focusing on protecting the local travel hubs, airports, metro, busses, etc.

Perhaps you can tell me one thing the news has not been able to - how many hospitals are effected by these terrorist acts? From the news here there were 32 dead but over 200 wounded and that's an awful lot of casualties for hospitals to deal with at one time. Do you know if they are having blood drives to help the survivors? I'm interested in how the medical system in other countries deals with mass casualty incidents like this or the Haiti earthquake etc.

I actually live rather far away from Brussels on the countryside. Nonetheless, the effects of the attacks were even noticeable here. Mobile communication even sometimes failed here too. The government actively asked later to use data instead to keep the emergency lines open.

I’m not an expert to answer your question properly, but normally there are emergency procedures when there are suddenly many people wounded at one place. These can be initiated by a local government or the Crisis Centrum of the federal government in even more severe cases like terrorism. In the latter, this involves a gathering of the involved ministers and the heads of serval public services which coordinates everything.

Casualties are distributed among local hospitals. They get even distributed among military hospitals if needed. Planned surgeries which aren't life threating are put on hold for those who need aid more quickly. Blood drives aren’t necessary at this moment apparently according to the Red Cross. They still seem to have enough at this moment, but when they are running low they always actively ask citizens through the media.
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Runec, I survived Katrina - I was living in Mississippi then. I know exactly what you're talking about! It was this experience when I was still married to an ER doctor that created my interest in disaster medicine.

DeathlyForceX Thank you for your answer. Glad you're not smack-dab in the middle of the trouble.
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