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Posted 3/25/16 , edited 3/25/16
http://jalopnik.com/north-carolina-is-going-to-be-a-real-jerk-about-speedin-1766936094

I don't understand how this can even be a thing? Other than like how in the article it mentioned if you get pulled over you will be checked for other violations. Isn't that entrapment? Also between how speedometers are calibrated and the inefficiency of radar detectors there could be up to a 7mph variance in either direction. Law enforcement seem more interested in making the state money than they do actually serving and protecting
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Posted 3/25/16 , edited 3/25/16
While I am not 100% sure whether or not it is consitutional, it is not entrapment. Entrapment is inciting the person to commit the crime so that you can prosecute them. I.e. making the person steal something and then arresting him.

Edit: Ignore the previous part of my post, I just looked it up and was wrong.
Posted 3/25/16 , edited 3/25/16
Entrapment is getting someone to commit a crime they wouldn't have otherwise commited and prosecuting them for it.

1 Mph is well with human error, hopefully people will challenge tickets that are so close to the line.
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Regardless of the definition of entrapment, this exercise seems just.. wrong. to pull someone over for 1mph over to see if they are doing anything else wrong is just... wrong. i don't know how else to put it.
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Posted 3/25/16
Follow-up story: North Carolina suddenly sees boom in traffic ticket lawyers, court cases. Not sure they're going to make money with all the court cases this will certainly bring about.


Yamstarch wrote:
Also between how speedometers are calibrated and the inefficiency of radar detectors there could be up to a 7mph variance in either direction. Law enforcement seem more interested in making the state money than they do actually serving and protecting


And if you think that's bad, the allowable margin of error on a breathalyzer (not the portable one, the BIG one back at the station) for DWI, at least in my municipality, is even larger percentage-wise than that. True story.
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Posted 3/25/16

evilotakuneko wrote:

Yamstarch wrote:
Also between how speedometers are calibrated and the inefficiency of radar detectors there could be up to a 7mph variance in either direction. Law enforcement seem more interested in making the state money than they do actually serving and protecting


And if you think that's bad, the allowable margin of error on a breathalyzer (not the portable one, the BIG one back at the station) for DWI, at least in my municipality, is even larger percentage-wise than that. True story.
I think it was that if there was something else (don't remember what) this rate will increase when you blow it/breath it but thats also why one would test them as well? (balance test and eyes, etc)
But true if its a minor above it and you know its not bad one should be letting it go (for the most part) and when you know they aren't drunk or have drinked while the breather scores way above average you should atleast have some "common sense" as to this is not the case...
was a guy who went for jail because of this (and think he didn't drink at all?) maybe it was a body thing can't remember (a rare chance for some cind of thing in the body that will make it so high)
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Posted 3/25/16
It gets better -- in the court case I sat jury on, they didn't even show us the girl's score.

It ended in mistrial but I pretty much decided after hearing about the margin of error, and then not seeing the score, no way I'm calling guilty.
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Zero Tolerant state
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Kinda funny that the state that is the home of NASCAR is cracking down on "speeders."
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Posted 3/25/16
(shrugs) I got a $200 ticket in Mississippi once for 1 mph over the limit. That's what happens when you're the only one driving a hot car in a pack of old rusty pickups - they aim the darn laser radar at you and your fuzzbuster doesn't let you know till it's too late.
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from what i recall, there's no speed limit in Germany's highway AND Germany has a very low traffic-related mortality rate.
6.8 per 100k vehicles, compared to 12.9 per 100k vehicles in the US
according to the wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate
funny how a country without speed limits have LESS fatality rate than a country that enforces speed limits

i just don't see why there's a need to enforce the limit so aggressively. seems like a colossal waste of time and resources.
a difference of 1mph is unlikely to make a significant difference in the rate of traffic-related accidents.
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Posted 3/25/16 , edited 3/25/16
Well the US take it too seriously and stuff^
Either going too much by the "book" or by feelings (why some jury's/judges can do what they want as they are the "final word" some places leaving terrible stuff to happend so its better to know who/place who should judge you) atleast where I come from its more open and the one that is targeted has more to "say" or defend one self with.
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Posted 3/25/16
Since gas is so cheap now, states make much less money with their gas taxes. They have no choice but to write more tickets now. Someone has to pay for the healthcare, schools, food, clothing and housing of illegal invaders who pay no taxes.
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Just because you get pulled over, doesn't mean they will give you a ticket. (Hopefully something like only giving out warnings if you are under a certain amount over the limit as a police policy and just not telling that to the public).

They are probably just doing it to promote safer driving. I hate it when I drive and everyone is going +3 or more over the speed limit. It makes me feel like I have to speed which makes me uncomfortable.

Also, my dad works in law enforcement and sometimes there is a bad guy that the police have to arrest (like a drug dealer that they have been keeping tabs on) and this makes it easier to actually arrest them (pull them over for routine traffic stop, search their car, and catch them hauling a ton of crack/meth).
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Posted 3/25/16 , edited 3/25/16
This is about publicity and revenue generation. Traffic will be slowed down and the toll roads which are in the works will be utilized more. Residents of North Carolina protested against the toll roads which are pretty much new for the state. This is the states response to force people to ride the tolls in my opinion. Slower traffic + More congestion = Toll roads.

It is a strange coincidence that is happened around the height of the toll debate battle.

Well played NC, well played...

Glad I don't live in NC. Also cops are looking to stop drug traffickers passing through their state. They will target those who they think are selling drugs doing 1mph over in attempt to find more drugs. Even on cruise control your car will go over the set speed at times. Plus didn't NC have a money spending problem recently? And had a huge budget hole? This will surely resolve mismanagement of state funds at the expense of NC citizens.

If I pass through NC ever, the WAZE app will be activated.
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