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Israeli Defense Force executes wounded Palestinian stabbing suspect whose already on the ground in cold blood. (Warning: video is graphic)
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Don't link those videos?

anyway seems silly... enough with this shit..


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Was just recently having a discussion about this with some friends of mine. Personally, what the medic did was wrong, but I don't feel sorry one bit for the stabber.

Here's the article stating that it was a medic.


Israeli Medic Detained After Killing Disarmed, Wounded Palestinian

Military Says Incident a Grave Breach of Rules of Engagement

by Jason Ditz, March 24, 2016


While the Israeli military initially reported an incident of two Palestinian “terrorists” killed in occupied Hebron, a subsequent video release showed that one of the two was alive after the incident, and was summarily executed by an Israeli medic, who shot the disarmed and wounded Palestinian in the head.

The Israeli military has since said they have detained the medic, calling the incident a grave breach of the rules of engagement. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also condemned the attack, saying such killings don’t represent the military’s values.

The medic defended the killing in comments made hours later, saying he had done nothing wrong and figured the Palestinian, initially accused of having a knife, might have a suicide vest on. His lawyer warned the public not to criticize the killing, saying they should “not forget who was defending them.”

The Israeli military has been having a problem with soldiers using excessive force against Palestinians, with IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Gadi Eisenkot insisting last month that the military shouldn’t be killing every perceived attacker they see.

This sparked a condemnation of the general earlier this month by Israeli Chief Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef, who called on Israeli troops to ignore their orders and just kill any armed Palestinian they can, saying they have a religious responsibility to do so.

Arab groups have complained repeatedly about excessive use of force by Israeli troops since then, but this is the first time such an incident was actually caught on video, and that is drawing some serious international attention to the problem.

http://news.antiwar.com/2016/03/24/israeli-medic-detained-after-killing-disarmed-wounded-palestinian/
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Removed the videos, they are indeed too graphical.
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Palestine and Israel have been committing atrocities against each other for millennia. Generation after generation abusing and killing the other, learning from their fellows and incensed by their counterparts. It's like they know nothing else but fighting. And how could they, since they never have a chance to live without racial/religious/ethnic violence? Everyone on either side knows someone who as hurt or killed by the other side. Violence is thus a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Quoth Londo Mollari, "Blood calls out for blood."
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evilotakuneko wrote: It's like they know nothing else but fighting. And how could they, since they never have a chance to live without racial/religious/ethnic violence? Everyone on either side knows someone who as hurt or killed by the other side. Violence is thus a self-fulfilling prophecy.
yeah, know many says that the youth is trapped to go into crime related networks either working for someone or something on those lines.
Like that time a young robber (think it was around age of 13) was trying to robb someone outside a shop, the shop owner scared him away when he ran into a car making him cribbled and the parents didn't want to have anything to do with him.

Same with these attacks in places where people beg where there has been multiple attacks/slaughters going on.
Living up in this and for this isn't exactly healthy neither the ones saying that they should be taken care of.

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Why do I half suspect the OP of trying to stir up Anti-Israel sentiments here? I mean shit the Palestine military is far from innocent itself and it's own soldiers have done the exact same to Israeli troops..without the flimsy excuse.

War of this kind is rarely simply black and white. And only fools think so.
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Israel fights to defend itself, Hamas and other Palestinian terrorists fights to kill Israelies - they are NOT the same. That said this particular shooting doesn't seem to square with the law Israel strives to enforce. There will be peace only when the Islamic leaders of Gaza want it ...or they are obliterated; those terrorists have no better friends than western media and anti-Semitic world leaders.

Palestine never has been a country - if they ever give up their genocidal war, that may happen.
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Israel fights to defend itself, Hamas and other Palestinian terrorists fights to kill Israelies - they are NOT the same. That said this particular shooting doesn't seem to square with the law Israel strives to enforce.

Palestine never has been a country - if they ever give up their genocidal war, that may happen.


The people who are killing on both sides, are just hurting the innocent people of their own nations. But this whole situation is way too complicated for me to even preach about peace. They need to figure out how to make peace for themselves.
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By the way, there is another video right after the stabbing in which the soldiers yelled that medics shouldn't come near him until they make sure he doesn't have a bomb on him (he was wearing a coat and all)

And in the video where we see the terrorist get shot, we can see him move his head and and hand. It's completely within reason that the IDF medic noticed other movements, like his other hand moving but not seen because of the angle of the camera, and decided it is better to be safe than sorry.
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D4nc3Style wrote: It's completely within reason that the IDF medic noticed other movements, like his other hand moving but not seen because of the angle of the camera, and decided it is better to be safe than sorry.
well it could also be a lame reason?
Even though agree better safe then sorry at times, but then why didn't someone maybe just take controll so that wasn't a possiblity?

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evilotakuneko wrote:

Quoth Londo Mollari, "Blood calls out for blood."


Bonus points for referencing the best sci-fi series to ever grace a television. Londo and G'Kar are probably the most believable, best-matched mortal enemies ever realized in film.


On the topic, I wouldn't rush to judgement either way. Both sides think they're fighting for what they believe is their birthright, and both sides have committed atrocities. It is equally possible that the IDF soldier legitimately thought the guy was still a threat (yes, the wear of suicide vests to get in "one last blow" when wounded is fairly common) or that the Israeli was a racist, religious zealot who just wanted a Palestinian dead. II would think that if you believed he had an svest, it would have been better to cordon the area and have the wounded guy disrobe (if still conscious and mobile) or just wait until the EOD robots can check him. Of course, if you have to wait for EOD, guy's probably going to bleed out in the meantime, but such is the way of things.

If there were an easy solution to the Israel/ Palestine problem, someone would have thought of it decades ago.
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Ranwolf wrote:

Why do I half suspect the OP of trying to stir up Anti-Israel sentiments here?

While I agree with the rest of your post, I found it ironic that this was the first thing you wrote considering that you refer to anyone who resides from an arabic country a camel jockey.
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Ranwolf wrote:

Why do I half suspect the OP of trying to stir up Anti-Israel sentiments here?

While I agree with the rest of your post, I found it ironic that this was the first thing you wrote considering that you refer to anyone who resides from an arabic country a camel jockey.


For the love of God how many times am I going to have to point out I call every terrorist a camel jockey. I freaking ran into just as many Africans and Caucasians fighting under a terrorist flag as I did Arabs. I would call a fellow Cree a camel jockey if he was a terrorist.
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I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.
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