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We finally got some info about dc comics' rebirth event so what do you guys think? I'm gonna save my opinions for later when I can put them more concisely and less rage-y
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I actually have been a DC fan most of my life and was one of a few who went into the new 52 with a positive attitude. I kept it with a few books but many others I was very unhappy with.There were some really good things to come from the new 52 though (The Court of Owls was my favorite). That being said I realllly like how DC is not rebooting but just adding the missing things from continuity back into the fold. I also absolutely love that...


I think it offers more pluses than minuses this time round.
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I actually have been a DC fan most of my life and was one of a few who went into the new 52 with a positive attitude. I kept it with a few books but many others I was very unhappy with.There were some really good things to come from the new 52 though (The Court of Owls was my favorite). That being said I realllly like how DC is not rebooting but just adding the missing things from continuity back into the fold. I also absolutely love that...


I think it offers more pluses than minuses this time round.


Wait the prices are going back down? That sounds interesting but many comics are gonna be bi weekly now apparently, so you'll actually end up paying more monthly depending on what series' you read. I like the fact that the editors are keeping out of it, but I dunno, I'm still pretty skeptic.
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Wait the prices are going back down? That sounds interesting but many comics are gonna be bi weekly now apparently, so you'll actually end up paying more monthly depending on what series' you read. I like the fact that the editors are keeping out of it, but I dunno, I'm still pretty skeptic.


Yup, the prices are going down to $2.99 for all the books including the special double and triple sized ones. Even though 17 books are going Bi-weekly, there will still only be 52 total issues produced a month. So, instead of like 12-16 monthly Trinity books we'll be getting 6-8 Bi-weekly titles. It'll still be only 12-16 books in total (of 52 issues produced each month).For example, "Batwoman" is now being incorporated into "Detective Comics". There will be 1 Justice League title instead of 3. The major thing that intrigues me is a lot of the creators who left DC over the new 52 are coming back. Amanda Conner also signed an exclusive deal with DC to do 3 comic series. Christopher Priest returned to DC as well. What bothered me most about the new 52 was the creator-matching to titles itself. Some were thrown on for a few issues then replaced. This is changing now with all creators signed on books for at least a year.
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Wait the prices are going back down? That sounds interesting but many comics are gonna be bi weekly now apparently, so you'll actually end up paying more monthly depending on what series' you read. I like the fact that the editors are keeping out of it, but I dunno, I'm still pretty skeptic.


Yup, the prices are going down to $2.99 for all the books including the special double and triple sized ones. Even though 17 books are going Bi-weekly, there will still only be 52 total issues produced a month. So, instead of like 12-16 monthly Trinity books we'll be getting 6-8 Bi-weekly titles. It'll still be only 12-16 books in total (of 52 issues produced each month).For example, "Batwoman" is now being incorporated into "Detective Comics". There will be 1 Justice League title instead of 3. The major thing that intrigues me is a lot of the creators who left DC over the new 52 are coming back. Amanda Conner also signed an exclusive deal with DC to do 3 comic series. Christopher Priest returned to DC as well. What bothered me most about the new 52 was the creator-matching to titles itself. Some were thrown on for a few issues then replaced. This is changing now with all creators signed on books for at least a year.


Ok. And what about Action Comics? It's picking up the numbering of the classic action comics series. Does that mean we're going back to the old universe?
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New universe but with all the missing of the old back in it. Like Didio and Lee said, they have no call of what exactly is getting added back in, that will be under the control of the creative team. From what's been said so far though, the creative team on Action Comics will be led by Dan Jurgens, which for me is a reason in itself to keep faith. Dan's run on Superman/Action in the past was nothing short of great. The full specifics announced so far can be found ...



Didio said their plan is to remove the alienation they put between the old fans and themselves while also keeping the new fans. He flat out admitted he screwed up bad.
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New universe but with all the missing of the old back in it. Like Didio and Lee said, they have no call of what exactly is getting added back in, that will be under the control of the creative team. From what's been said so far though, the creative team on Action Comics will be led by Dan Jurgens, which for me is a reason in itself to keep faith. Dan's run on Superman/Action in the past was nothing short of great. The full specifics announced so far can be found ...



Didio said their plan is to remove the alienation they put between the old fans and themselves while also keeping the new fans. He flat out admitted he screwed up bad.


Well I'm still highly skeptical, a lack of controlling can be just as bad as incredibly asinine controlling after all. I am a bit more optimistic, but I won't let myself get pulled into the hype machine (except for tom king doing batman, that just makes me so damn happy) Well, I guess it's time to make a new comics budget now that we're getting all new series'. ...This is gonna be hard.
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New universe but with all the missing of the old back in it. Like Didio and Lee said, they have no call of what exactly is getting added back in, that will be under the control of the creative team. From what's been said so far though, the creative team on Action Comics will be led by Dan Jurgens, which for me is a reason in itself to keep faith. Dan's run on Superman/Action in the past was nothing short of great. The full specifics announced so far can be found ...



Didio said their plan is to remove the alienation they put between the old fans and themselves while also keeping the new fans. He flat out admitted he screwed up bad.


Well I'm still highly skeptical, a lack of controlling can be just as bad as incredibly asinine controlling after all. I am a bit more optimistic, but I won't let myself get pulled into the hype machine (except for tom king doing batman, that just makes me so damn happy) Well, I guess it's time to make a new comics budget now that we're getting all new series'. ...This is gonna be hard.


Honestly the 2 things that made me mostly optimistic about this...



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Honestly the 2 things that made me mostly optimistic about this...



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Again I want to be optimistic but the idea of a bi weekly release schedule does not sit well with me. I, and most people my age, have little disposable income, so I think many fans won't be able to follow as many series' as they want. Normally I limit myself to 5 or 6 series from DC, and that's after I save money from getting a subscription. Now almost all the books I want are going to cost 50% more annually, so I will probably have to cut it down to 2 or 3. And that is a pretty sad setback if you ask me. It would especially suck if story arcs still happen theoughout multiple books, like a superman story being told via action comics superman and superman/wonderman. They do that a lot and I'm worried they'll do it now
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i've seen a few titles that I will be picking up.
But the big problem for me still with both the big 2 is 'event' crossover and reboot. As soon as I see a title I'm reading is heading for one of those I stop buying. In my mind what's the point of reading if the story will be interrupted/made redundant.
You can't go for longer than 6 issues before it's the 'next big thing'.
On the plus side I save money.
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neugenx wrote:

Honestly the 2 things that made me mostly optimistic about this...



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Again I want to be optimistic but the idea of a bi weekly release schedule does not sit well with me. I, and most people my age, have little disposable income, so I think many fans won't be able to follow as many series' as they want. Normally I limit myself to 5 or 6 series from DC, and that's after I save money from getting a subscription. Now almost all the books I want are going to cost 50% more annually, so I will probably have to cut it down to 2 or 3. And that is a pretty sad setback if you ask me. It would especially suck if story arcs still happen theoughout multiple books, like a superman story being told via action comics superman and superman/wonderman. They do that a lot and I'm worried they'll do it now


I can understand what you're saying. In some cases you're right on the money but in my case, as weird as it sound, I'll be saving money. I was getting both Wonder Woman books at $3.99 each, I was getting both Detective Comics and Batwoman at $3.99 each. There are others that have been combined like Justice League (two titles)and Aquaman (and Aquaman and the Others) that have combined two books too. In those cases, I was paying $3.99 (x2) each, $7.98 per set. Now, with the price drop I'll be getting two. The two books combined (in a bi-weekly format) will only cost $2.99 each (x2), $5.98 total. So I'll be saving $2.00 per set. Just from the 4 mentioned bi-weekly titles I'll be saving $8.00 alone. I guess it all depends on which titles you subscribe to.



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i've seen a few titles that I will be picking up.
But the big problem for me still with both the big 2 is 'event' crossover and reboot. As soon as I see a title I'm reading is heading for one of those I stop buying. In my mind what's the point of reading if the story will be interrupted/made redundant.
You can't go for longer than 6 issues before it's the 'next big thing'.
On the plus side I save money.


I feel the same about reboots, luckily DC has stated that everything from the New 52 will stay in continuity and the past DC history will be incorporated into it. They want to keep both old and newer fans so this may be the smartest way for them if they handle it right.

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i've seen a few titles that I will be picking up.
But the big problem for me still with both the big 2 is 'event' crossover and reboot. As soon as I see a title I'm reading is heading for one of those I stop buying. In my mind what's the point of reading if the story will be interrupted/made redundant.
You can't go for longer than 6 issues before it's the 'next big thing'.
On the plus side I save money.


You should read Valiant comics. They have some kickass superheroes and all crossover events get their own book and does not effect the story going on in the books (I think) Plus it has an ancient roman soldier in an alien war suit fighting a british super spy who is also a ninja. I think you would love it
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Again I want to be optimistic but the idea of a bi weekly release schedule does not sit well with me. I, and most people my age, have little disposable income, so I think many fans won't be able to follow as many series' as they want. Normally I limit myself to 5 or 6 series from DC, and that's after I save money from getting a subscription. Now almost all the books I want are going to cost 50% more annually, so I will probably have to cut it down to 2 or 3. And that is a pretty sad setback if you ask me. It would especially suck if story arcs still happen theoughout multiple books, like a superman story being told via action comics superman and superman/wonderman. They do that a lot and I'm worried they'll do it now


I can understand what you're saying. In some cases you're right on the money but in my case, as weird as it sound, I'll be saving money. I was getting both Wonder Woman books at $3.99 each, I was getting both Detective Comics and Batwoman at $3.99 each. There are others that have been combined like Justice League (two titles)and Aquaman (and Aquaman and the Others) that have combined two books too. In those cases, I was paying $3.99 (x2) each, $7.98 per set. Now, with the price drop I'll be getting two. The two books combined (in a bi-weekly format) will only cost $2.99 each (x2), $5.98 total. So I'll be saving $2.00 per set. Just from the 4 mentioned bi-weekly titles I'll be saving $8.00 alone. I guess it all depends on which titles you subscribe to.





Sorry for the long post.
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Again I want to be optimistic but the idea of a bi weekly release schedule does not sit well with me. I, and most people my age, have little disposable income, so I think many fans won't be able to follow as many series' as they want. Normally I limit myself to 5 or 6 series from DC, and that's after I save money from getting a subscription. Now almost all the books I want are going to cost 50% more annually, so I will probably have to cut it down to 2 or 3. And that is a pretty sad setback if you ask me. It would especially suck if story arcs still happen theoughout multiple books, like a superman story being told via action comics superman and superman/wonderman. They do that a lot and I'm worried they'll do it now


I can understand what you're saying. In some cases you're right on the money but in my case, as weird as it sound, I'll be saving money. I was getting both Wonder Woman books at $3.99 each, I was getting both Detective Comics and Batwoman at $3.99 each. There are others that have been combined like Justice League (two titles)and Aquaman (and Aquaman and the Others) that have combined two books too. In those cases, I was paying $3.99 (x2) each, $7.98 per set. Now, with the price drop I'll be getting two. The two books combined (in a bi-weekly format) will only cost $2.99 each (x2), $5.98 total. So I'll be saving $2.00 per set. Just from the 4 mentioned bi-weekly titles I'll be saving $8.00 alone. I guess it all depends on which titles you subscribe to.





Sorry for the long post.

Np, a long post is only a long post when it has no merit, thought or feeling put into it. You've put in all 3 . There are many points I fully agree with you on and just a few I look at differently. It doesn't make either of us right or wrong, we just see different benefits and detriments of the situation. Like you pointed out, for some this will be more costly but for others it won't. I can honestly say though, we share similar taste in titles. I always preferred the Batman and team books as well (and of course Superman and Wonder Woman, and yes I share your feelings on her origin story).

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octorockandroll wrote:


neugenx wrote:



Again I want to be optimistic but the idea of a bi weekly release schedule does not sit well with me. I, and most people my age, have little disposable income, so I think many fans won't be able to follow as many series' as they want. Normally I limit myself to 5 or 6 series from DC, and that's after I save money from getting a subscription. Now almost all the books I want are going to cost 50% more annually, so I will probably have to cut it down to 2 or 3. And that is a pretty sad setback if you ask me. It would especially suck if story arcs still happen theoughout multiple books, like a superman story being told via action comics superman and superman/wonderman. They do that a lot and I'm worried they'll do it now


I can understand what you're saying. In some cases you're right on the money but in my case, as weird as it sound, I'll be saving money. I was getting both Wonder Woman books at $3.99 each, I was getting both Detective Comics and Batwoman at $3.99 each. There are others that have been combined like Justice League (two titles)and Aquaman (and Aquaman and the Others) that have combined two books too. In those cases, I was paying $3.99 (x2) each, $7.98 per set. Now, with the price drop I'll be getting two. The two books combined (in a bi-weekly format) will only cost $2.99 each (x2), $5.98 total. So I'll be saving $2.00 per set. Just from the 4 mentioned bi-weekly titles I'll be saving $8.00 alone. I guess it all depends on which titles you subscribe to.





Sorry for the long post.


Np, a long post is only a long post when it has no merit, thought or feeling put into it. You've put in all 3 . There are many points I fully agree with you on and just a few I look at differently. It doesn't make either of us right or wrong, we just see different benefits and detriments of the situation. Like you pointed out, for some this will be more costly but for others it won't. I can honestly say though, we share similar taste in titles. I always preferred the Batman and team books as well (and of course Superman and Wonder Woman, and yes I share your feelings on her origin story).



Cool

Well, I guess we'll see how it turns out soon
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