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Post Reply Have you ever set a pest free?
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Nah, man.
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This wasn't the first time I've set free a mouse, but normally I wouldn't do this.

So tell us, what do you normally do?

Is a slighter less cute mouse less worthy of life than a really cute one? Why?


Hey man. Not looking to go into debates, sorry.

I'm just curious of peoples answers.

Normally I'd toss water on them anyway, but leave them on the top pile of a dumpster. They're still trapped, but not restrained. I've seen mice run out of there lots of times. It's New York, after all.

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Actually wait. I will say this. If you truly want people to share your opinions on a matter, you shouldn't go out of your way to condemn the people who you are trying to convince. Explain your opinion. Work with the person. Try to understand each others reasoning, & seek out a solution.

Writing "Is a slighter less cute mouse less worthy of life than a really cute one?" is very passive aggressive for someone who does not know my circumstances. What if glue traps was all that my family could afford? What if they where provided by my buildings landlord? (They where.) What if the person sets them free as soon as they catch them, like I did? What if they aren't comfortable with mercy killings, like you are?

What about the persons background?

Did you know? My father is an immigrant from DR. He lived in a household where a mouse could mean sickness. A mouse could take away their food! My relatives who came here are more inclined to throw them out as soon as they get stuck, glue & all. Is it the right thing to do? NO. Yet do you, who know nothing about their circumstances have a right to look down on them? F̶u̶c̶k̶ no.

The frustration you have isn't without merit. You, & me can BOTH agree that unnecessary cruelty towards animals is wrong. If I've done something wrong, I can change. People can change. In regards to trapped mouses, my father has even changed through me. Yet that change wont happen by throwing ones blind justice on another. If anything, people will more then likely shrug that weight off.

Gavin, I'm willing to take your advice on switching to non-glue traps. I am on level with you when it comes to that. I hope that you can take something from my response too, but if not-- that is fine. I wont think any less of you for standing by your beliefs. Yet I implore you to see things from another's point of view.

Thank you for the advice.

Be well.
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The only pests I actully kill are flies anything else is a catch and release job. Apart from the one time I got 6 wasps in the living room at once that was just a little too dicy for my liking.
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Mico171 wrote:
Actually wait. I will say this. If you truly want people to share your opinions on a matter, you shouldn't go out of your way to condemn the people who you are trying to convince. Explain your opinion. Work with the person. Try to understand each others reasoning, & seek out a solution.

Writing "Is a slighter less cute mouse less worthy of life than a really cute one?" is very passive aggressive for someone who does not know my circumstances. What if glue traps was all that my family could afford? What if they where provided by my buildings landlord? (They where.) What if the person sets them free as soon as they catch them, like I did? What if they aren't comfortable with mercy killings, like you are?

What about the persons background?

Did you know? My father is an immigrant from DR. He lived in a household where a mouse could mean sickness. A mouse could take away their food! My relatives who came here are more inclined to throw them out as soon as they get stuck, glue & all. Is it the right thing to do? NO. Yet do you, who know nothing about their circumstances have a right to look down on them? F̶u̶c̶k̶ no.

The frustration you have isn't without merit. You, & me can BOTH agree that unnecessary cruelty towards animals is wrong. If I've done something wrong, I can change. People can change. In regards to trapped mouses, my father has even changed through me. Yet that change wont happen by throwing ones blind justice on another. If anything, people will more then likely shrug that weight off.

Gavin, I'm willing to take your advice on switching to non-glue traps. I am on level with you when it comes to that. I hope that you can take something from my response too, but if not-- that is fine. I wont think any less of you for standing by your beliefs. Yet I implore you to see things from another's point of view.

Thank you for the advice.

Be well.

I'm not condemning you, I'm condemning the option you raised (leaving them on the trap). On face value, without elaboration, it looked like you were implying to just leave them on there to die. I'd much rather commend you for showing mercy rather than pointing out something like that. My condemnation is really reserved for the unapologetic people who seek to cause more pain than necessary, or do it because they are indifferent to it.

My question there is a fair one.The impression you gave out is that you saved the mouse because of how cute it was. If you didn't want people getting that impression, perhaps you should have elaborated on this further.

Glue traps aren't even as economical as several other varieties of traps because of reuse value and durability. I can get a packet of snap traps for just as cheap if not cheaper in my local hardware store, or through Amazon. Perhaps you should tell your landlord this or simply refuse to use them.

Most people don't release them like that because they are pest animals (protip: use vegetable oil if freeing an animal from glue, sometimes water isn't enough), and even if that was the intention, you're better served with a cage trap or one of those little plastic ones because it's less trouble for the trapper and less stressful for the animal. Animals are known to dislocate their limbs even after a few hours in glue traps because they tend to panic on them.

People who aren't comfortable with mercy killing should not be using these sort of traps in the first place, or have someone else do the deed. I don't think cowardice is a good excuse to leave an animal suffering.

As far as background goes, I don't think that's really relevant. Most people can imagine what happens to a little animal if stuck on a glue trap. Most people can recognise what it means if an animal screams. If someone is so callous to simply leave an animal to slowly die in a garbage bin, then it's pretty hard not to look down on such behaviour. If it's a deliberate action of cruelty then person doing it should be sternly reminded of such. But if it's an act out of ignorance, then a polite reminder will do.

I am glad your father changed. But you need to remember, as much as we should understand his and your POV, there will be many who don't tolerate cruelty to animals. I'm in that camp. I'm not sure there's any excuse to dump a still-living mouse snared on superglue into the trash, like it was an inanimate burger wrapper and not a creature that can feel pain. You'd might as well be torturing it if you were going to do that, hence my strong reaction.

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i broke up with my ex thus letting her free does that count?
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GavinB wrote:


Mico171 wrote:
This wasn't the first time I've set free a mouse, but normally I wouldn't do this.

So tell us, what do you normally do?

Is a slighter less cute mouse less worthy of life than a really cute one? Why?


yes because in the end only the cutest will survive
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I kill flies and spiders on instinct. Flies are annoying as all hell; and spiders give me panic attacks (severe arachnophobia) so I find the largest, hardest object I can to make sure that I pulverize it them to dust without the chance of them jumping or falling on me

So no, I don't typically set a pest free If possible.
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I leave the spiders alone, they kill the flying pests for me.
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Unless they're house spiders I always put them outside
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