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Episode 37

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Mayhem in Morioh: Crazy Diamond vs. Killer Queen!

Kira seems to have a very big problem with announcing the invincibility of Killer Queen's abilities, only for him to immediately be proven wrong. Gotta learn how to knock on wood, dude The Stand battle was pretty sweet, with Killer Queen having a lethal x-factor in its ability to turn Crazy Diamond into a bomb if it touched it once, meaning Josuke couldn't afford to get hit pretty much at all. But Kira also took the long-range advantage, by having Killer Queen somehow....swallow Stray Cat, or something (it's never elaborated upon), and gaining the ability to fire explosive air balls which is pretty much the most hax ability ever. Josuke, ever crafty, though, managed to avoid taking too much damage from these lethal attacks, but Okuyasu wasn't so lucky. Poor lovable lug had the right idea to use The Hand's ability to keep Killer Queen at a distance, but didn't account for Stray Cat (which no one could have known about at the time). Josuke's VA really nailed it as he was vainly begging Okuyasu to open his eyes and get back up, you could really hear the desperation in his voice and how much he wouldn't believe that his friend had gotten killed, even after he was healed. Of course, this whole thing could have been avoided if Jotaro, Koichi, and Rohan hadn't decided to have the investigative curiosity of enemy guard AI in video games. Seriously, Jotaro, if it sounds like Josuke screaming right around the corner from you, it probably is And for someone who can't see Stands, Hayato does a really good job following along with the action and giving advice from the sidelines Next week, we take the battle indoors, as the desperate struggle reaches a climax.
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Sucks to see Okuyasu go like that. There's still 2 episodes left so maybe there's a chance Bites the Dust reverses things if it's used again.
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Yoshikage Kira, the man who could have gotten away with all of his crimes scot free if he didn't go and brag about outsmarting a 10 year old.

Damn, I forgot just how amazing of a kid Hayato is. He takes so many risky gambles without batting an eye. He's a honorary Joestar
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This is the worst jojo episode I've ever seen.
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Please elaborate? It's probably my favourite episode from this part. The showdown between Josuke and Kira is so intense, I was on the edge of my seat the entire time
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I think the fight between Josuke and Kira did a good job of demonstrating the strengths and weaknesses of Killer Queen. The Stand is like Kira himself a serial killer that thrives on dispatching opponents when they are at a disadvantage, and to make the most use of it, its user must rely on subterfuge and misdirection. It is not however much of a fighter because when it does try to take Crazy Diamond mano a mano Josuke just beats the shit out of him because his stand is just stronger, faster, and better at hitting things. He gets the upper hand again when he starts augmenting himself with Stray Cat and forcing Josuke to cover Okuyasu, thus robbing him of his immense melee advantage.
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RayTheGmr wrote:

Please elaborate? It's probably my favourite episode from this part. The showdown between Josuke and Kira is so intense, I was on the edge of my seat the entire time


He hates Hayato. That's probably why he doesn't like to see him being awesome.
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Nothing tops The World breaking into the OP for part 4.... especially cuz it was always there from the beginning. It made it that much more awesome that you had no idea it was there all along. Also I like the song for the OP and now its all jacked up.

Hayato needs to see a doctor. His balls are way too big for someone his age!

Seriously though its mind blowing how this kid keeps impressing me. He keeps outdoing himself and its great to see. One thing though is the rain seriously that loud Jotaro and the others can't hear whats going on AROUND THE GODDAMN CORNER!!!
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The fight could be over so quickly if the guy who uses THE HAND stand effectively.

Like seriously.

Oh an air bubble? Swipe it away to nothingness. Problem 1 solved.

Killer Queen tries to touch you to turn you to a bomb? Swipe his hand away and then proceed to swipe away most of his body. PROBLEM SOLVED! Like holy hell it would be that simple.

I'm actually getting annoyed watching these because the heroes basically suck at what they are doing even though they have done this for far longer than Kira.

Also I you can throw some blood at such speed, imagine how fast you can throw rocks. Then you could use the repair on the debris you've destroyed to get Kira into close range if they get stuck on his back.

They are all certified idiots. The little kid has more brains than these two have.

Also this swipe ability of THE HAND would have been really useful vs that large steel tower. Yes the tower can reflect cuts and punches but when you remove it from reality there isn't much power to return.
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Zefar wrote:

The fight could be over so quickly if the guy who uses THE HAND stand effectively.

Like seriously.

Oh an air bubble? Swipe it away to nothingness. Problem 1 solved.

Killer Queen tries to touch you to turn you to a bomb? Swipe his hand away and then proceed to swipe away most of his body. PROBLEM SOLVED! Like holy hell it would be that simple.

I'm actually getting annoyed watching these because the heroes basically suck at what they are doing even though they have done this for far longer than Kira.

Also I you can throw some blood at such speed, imagine how fast you can throw rocks. Then you could use the repair on the debris you've destroyed to get Kira into close range if they get stuck on his back.

They are all certified idiots. The little kid has more brains than these two have.

Also this swipe ability of THE HAND would have been really useful vs that large steel tower. Yes the tower can reflect cuts and punches but when you remove it from reality there isn't much power to return.


Important to remember Okuyasu is explicitly a fucking moron. The entire problem would've been solved if he realized that since he was scraping away space to cause Killer Queen's fingers to shift targets, and thus was using the Hand in the general direction of Killer Queen's finger, that he could easily just annihilate said finger from existence and render the stand powerless. But he doesn't because he makes Polnareff seem like a neural surgeon by comparison. I mean Polnareff was a little on the dim side, but he did manage to figure out and exploit Cream's weakness on his own and would've killed Vanilla Ice on the spot if DIO hadn't just turned him into a vampire. Okuyasu however can't exploit his incredibly dangerous powers to save his life, which is why he doesn't fight all that much throughout the series. Because he can't use his powers effectively
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vanguard1234523 wrote:


Zefar wrote:

The fight could be over so quickly if the guy who uses THE HAND stand effectively.

Like seriously.

Oh an air bubble? Swipe it away to nothingness. Problem 1 solved.

Killer Queen tries to touch you to turn you to a bomb? Swipe his hand away and then proceed to swipe away most of his body. PROBLEM SOLVED! Like holy hell it would be that simple.

I'm actually getting annoyed watching these because the heroes basically suck at what they are doing even though they have done this for far longer than Kira.

Also I you can throw some blood at such speed, imagine how fast you can throw rocks. Then you could use the repair on the debris you've destroyed to get Kira into close range if they get stuck on his back.

They are all certified idiots. The little kid has more brains than these two have.

Also this swipe ability of THE HAND would have been really useful vs that large steel tower. Yes the tower can reflect cuts and punches but when you remove it from reality there isn't much power to return.


Important to remember Okuyasu is explicitly a fucking moron. The entire problem would've been solved if he realized that since he was scraping away space to cause Killer Queen's fingers to shift targets, and thus was using the Hand in the general direction of Killer Queen's finger, that he could easily just annihilate said finger from existence and render the stand powerless. But he doesn't because he makes Polnareff seem like a neural surgeon by comparison. I mean Polnareff was a little on the dim side, but he did manage to figure out and exploit Cream's weakness on his own and would've killed Vanilla Ice on the spot if DIO hadn't just turned him into a vampire. Okuyasu however can't exploit his incredibly dangerous powers to save his life, which is why he doesn't fight all that much throughout the series. Because he can't use his powers effectively


This is dead on, exactly. Okuyasu is literally the exact polar opposite of Hayato. Okuyasu has what should, by all accounts, be a game breaking power. Everyone in the series knows it. Okuyasu just isn't smart or creative enough to ever use it to do anything really interesting. On the other hand, you have Hayato, who has no power at all, and yet is smart and crafty enough to figure out how to literally escape fate. Comes up with some of the most brilliant plans we've seen in Jojo so far. All without a stand of his own.

Could Okuyasu have take Kira out without any problem at all? Sure. If he wasn't busy thinking about sandwiches, girls, and his hideously mutated father, all while having half his mind being taken up with the crushing knowledge that he is, in fact, an idiot, and can do nothing about it, even if it means saving his own life.
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HOw is it that Jotaro and the others aren't hearing these explosions from around the corner?
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Worth noting that if Okuyasu had the smarts to use the Hand optimally, the fights in part 4 would be short and uninteresting.

So Araki would have needed BS excuses to have him on the bench, which I think would be much more annoying.

Instead, he's there to exemplify what happens when an OP Stand is given to the wrong person, just like how many abilities that sound pretty harmless on paper can be deadly in the right hands.
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Bowie-Sensei wrote:

HOw is it that Jotaro and the others aren't hearing these explosions from around the corner?


maybe the rain is just REALLY loud.
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