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Most LGBT activists I've seen are just drama queens, people are too bored. You don't see people protesting these sorts of things in 3rd world countries.
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Like people in UK uni's give a fuck about the NUS when it comes to anything other than student discounts
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PurpleDjango wrote:

Most LGBT activists I've seen are just drama queens, people are too bored. You don't see people protesting these sorts of things in 3rd world countries.


Thats because they have bigger issues.

you don't see people protesting human rights in third world countries either...
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I'm not even going to ask what "Cis gay men" are--Ae they gay men who aren't trans, and therefore aren't "as gay" as trans who...okay, I'm asking!!
It looks like no one answered this for you, but yes non-trans gay men. Personally I see no reason to add "cis" when simply talking about gay men, except in certain rare contexts. Perhaps the context of the article was appropriate because they wanted to ensure anyone who identified as trans in any way were excluded (err, I guess... included).

Anyway, cis does not refer to sexual orientation whether or not you support or understand the concepts under the transgender umbrella. Cis specifically refers to people with a preferred gender expression that conforms to the assigned gender at birth, so it's a label to use when saying 'not transgender' would just cause more confusion (unless you don't know what "cis" means).
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i think this pc culture is about to implode on itself in the next few years.

Oh please, I certainly hope so.
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JustineKo2 wrote:Anyway, cis does not refer to sexual orientation whether or not you support or understand the concepts under the transgender umbrella. Cis specifically refers to people with a preferred gender expression that conforms to the assigned gender at birth, so it's a label to use when saying 'not transgender' would just cause more confusion (unless you don't know what "cis" means).


Ever since, ironically, being used BY the trans to identify "Plain old normal people who have their own unimpaired sense of gender", it started to be come a coverall term wielded "People who don't have problems and aren't special, so there!" (And they're probably against us, too, because they're so clueless and complacent!)

To extend the Dr. Seuss metaphor, Sneetches without stars on their bellies should be referred to as the more polite and politically correct "Cis-Sneetches".
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NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘they don’t face oppression’
Nick Duffy 22nd March 2016, 1:09 PM

The National Union of Students’ LGBT Campaign has passed a motion calling for the abolition of representatives for gay men – because they “don’t face oppression” in the LGBT community.

The NUS LGBT+ Campaign discussed the issue at its annual conference, which took place in Sheffield this week.

At the event, delegates passed a motion that blames “cis gay men” for “misogyny, transphobia, racism and biphobia”.

It says: “Misogyny, transphobia, racism and biphobia are often present in LGBT+ societies. This is unfortunately more likely to occur when the society is dominated by white cis gay men.”

The motion continues to call on LGBT societies at universities – many of whom have dedicated reps for lesbians, trans people, bi people and gay men – to abolish the role for gay men.

It continues: “The reps system exists to ensure that societies committees can always have a reserved place for groups which disproportionately face oppression within the LGBT+ community.

“Gay men do not face oppression as gay men within the LGBT+ community and do not need a reserved place on society committees.”
It goes on to “encourage LGBT+ Societies that have a gay men’s rep to drop the position”.

The motion was passed – despite other resolutions at the same conference highlighting that men who have sex with men are disproportionately at risk of HIV, and disproportionately at risk of violence.

The NUS has recently been drawn into a row with gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell, who helped organise a rally outside NUS HQ last week to protest their ‘No Platform’ policy. The NUS denies no-platforming Mr Tatchell.


http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/03/22/nus-tells-lgbt-societies-to-abolish-gay-mens-reps-because-they-dont-face-oppression/

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Maybe they should go to NC where they can be oppressed plenty.

Or the Middle East where they'll be killed.
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Okay, Max. Follow me on this. I know you've got some kind of psychological hangup you will never overcome, but suffice it to say for our audience's sake at the least:

I am not arguing that the political left is absent of homophobia. I quite directly called them out on it. I'm saying the political right is not, as you have claimed is the case, absent of homophobia.

Please, by all means, ask someone else to explain it to you. Get all the help you need.
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Everyone is represented or nobody is. That's equality.
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Everyone is represented or nobody is. That's equality.


Equality is a big warm sun, that melts Special Snowflakes.
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Morbidhanson wrote:

Everyone is represented or nobody is. That's equality.


Equality is a big warm sun, that melts Special Snowflakes.


I still don't get how they think excluding white people is not racist or how increasing the burden on men to benefit women is not sexist. Everyone is already equal in the eyes of the law.
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Lol students. Get studying and get a job, stop playing special snowflake.
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This is true, all four letters of lgbt discriminate against one another and one shouldn't be held higher than another.
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NUS tells LGBT societies to abolish gay men’s reps because ‘they don’t face oppression’
Nick Duffy 22nd March 2016, 1:09 PM

The National Union of Students’ LGBT Campaign has passed a motion calling for the abolition of representatives for gay men – because they “don’t face oppression” in the LGBT community.

The NUS LGBT+ Campaign discussed the issue at its annual conference, which took place in Sheffield this week.

At the event, delegates passed a motion that blames “cis gay men” for “misogyny, transphobia, racism and biphobia”.

It says: “Misogyny, transphobia, racism and biphobia are often present in LGBT+ societies. This is unfortunately more likely to occur when the society is dominated by white cis gay men.”

The motion continues to call on LGBT societies at universities – many of whom have dedicated reps for lesbians, trans people, bi people and gay men – to abolish the role for gay men.

It continues: “The reps system exists to ensure that societies committees can always have a reserved place for groups which disproportionately face oppression within the LGBT+ community.

“Gay men do not face oppression as gay men within the LGBT+ community and do not need a reserved place on society committees.”
It goes on to “encourage LGBT+ Societies that have a gay men’s rep to drop the position”.

The motion was passed – despite other resolutions at the same conference highlighting that men who have sex with men are disproportionately at risk of HIV, and disproportionately at risk of violence.

The NUS has recently been drawn into a row with gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell, who helped organise a rally outside NUS HQ last week to protest their ‘No Platform’ policy. The NUS denies no-platforming Mr Tatchell.


http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/03/22/nus-tells-lgbt-societies-to-abolish-gay-mens-reps-because-they-dont-face-oppression/

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You're not oppressed now stay down! Some things are just too idiotic to even respond to. I guess all the young men who are beaten each and every day are only being targeted because of their keen sense of fashion? Reminds me of all the Holocaust deniers.
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