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I thought this was an interesting topic idea.

I give it 50-60 years
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when all of us who are on the hype train dies


then it comes out
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RedExodus wrote:

when all of us who are on the hype train dies


then it comes out


...this is the sad truth for everything
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I dunno, we might get some low level and possibly dangerous version of neuro gaming in our lifetimes.
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I dunno, we might get some low level and possibly dangerous version of neuro gaming in our lifetimes.


No fun without risks
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Ryulightorb wrote:


Iberjib wrote:

I dunno, we might get some low level and possibly dangerous version of neuro gaming in our lifetimes.


No fun without risks


I like my brain nice and functional, so I'm gonna have to disagree.
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Iberjib wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Iberjib wrote:

I dunno, we might get some low level and possibly dangerous version of neuro gaming in our lifetimes.


No fun without risks


I like my brain nice and functional, so I'm gonna have to disagree.


Well that's a good point.
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I suppose the first question is - what would neuro-gaming looking like? I'm going to assume it's like VR; although instead of using a headset (that you look through with your eyes) this would involve sending sensory information directly into a person's brain.

So basically you’re talking about a brain computer interface. Something that connects an organic brain to digital systems. Research is being done on this sort of thing today. What I understand is that there are two kinds of BCI systems, those that send signals through a person's skull and those that touch the tissue of the brain directly. Of the two types direct BCIs work better, because the bone of the human skull prevents a clear signal from getting through, much more potential in connecting directly to the brain.

As such, a working neuro-gaming system would probably involve surgery, to make a hole in a person's skull and insert electrodes into the surface of their brain. That's where things get tricky, the difficult of brain surgery aside, most modern electrodes become less effective (less able to send and receive information) with time, as scar tissue develops in the brain at the point of contact with the electrode.

This means that in order to make neuro-gaming possible a solution must be found to prevent the development of scar tissue in the human brain. Once that hurdle has been cleared many exciting cybernetic technologies could soon become possible, including a new kind of VR that doesn't involve the use of a person's eyes.

A timeline? I hate to make estimates like that, the amount of resources put into research could accelerate things rapidly. Still, at the current rate, 5-15 years maybe? Before that sort of BCI technology starts to become viable.
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Linking ones neurological receptors to a man-made device?

SIGN ME TF UP! lol

but nah, really, I don't think we're anywhere near Neuro-gaming. There are many fictional horror stories explaining why it's a bad Idea.

Are we close to the tech required to pull it off? Actually, yeah. Maybe. There have been some advancements in how people monitor, & trigger the brain. It's not entirely impossible to hear that it could be used for gaming. Yet it's not likely that it would. (I'm no neuroscientist, so don't quote me on that. Ha. )

As much as I'd like to feel the crunch of the grass, the weight of an ancient sword, & the smell of a fire-ball that my Mage friend threw,-- I don't want to feel the pain of being hit with said fire-ball. That goes double if things go wrong.

Nothing is really impossible. Neuro-gaming could be a thing. Yet I doubt it would happen in our life time. Too delicate, too much money, & it would require allot of testing before it could be bought like a PS4.

Stuff like what happens in Anime (S.A.O, Dot.Hack//, Log Horizon, etc) would be a PR nightmare on a worldly level. I don't think any company would want to handle that bomb, no matter how lucrative it is.


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On a similar topic, I once heard about a man being in a vegetative state. Some inventor made a device that could move a mouse cursor on a screen, just by using his brain. If that story is true, then I think that this would be the next step towards neuro-gaming. The power to control your character's moment with your thoughts? Sounds pretty cool to me. We're already at the level where in-game magic spells can be caste with just our words. I might not feel a sword, but maybe some day I can at least control it without a controller.


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Not until we reach singularity.
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I will Space Jump before that time!
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I don't know how much time it would take to use neuro gaming. I would not know if it is instant or gradual.

No idea when it will come out.
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Ryulightorb wrote:

I thought this was an interesting topic idea.

I give it 50-60 years


20 - 30 years tops before the technology exists. The technology may never be available to the public. Read/write capability for the human mind would give rise to some incredibly sensitive moral and ethical problems. How do you stop a criminal from altering your memories, or even your sense of self? Do you want a corporation to have access to your most hidden thoughts and desires?

Technology is accelerating geometrically. In just a few more years expert systems will be designing technologies in days that would take human engineers months. Those technologies will in turn be used to create even more advanced technologies. Machine learning algorithms already surpass the human in many areas, and are becoming more general purpose daily.
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Considering scientists have been able to implant false memories in mice since 2014 ( http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/meet-two-scientists-who-implanted-false-memory-mouse-180953045/?no-ist ), and claim to have been reading mice's minds since 2013 ( http://news.stanford.edu/news/2013/february/reading-mice-minds-021913.html ) I suspect it's going to happen sooner than most of us think. Some paralyzed patients will soon be testing wireless brain computer interfaces if they aren't already. https://www.technologyreview.com/s/534206/a-brain-computer-interface-that-works-wirelessly/

Considering there are already toys like the Necomimi on the market, it can't be as far off as some people think. http://www.necomimi.com/
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