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Post Reply Not an Angry Topic, This needs to be said,Sexualizing characters are good.
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I remember watching dragonball when I was younger and I never once thought, "wow such an unrealistic body type this is super sexist" or anything of the sort. Instead I was like, "wow these guys are super strong I wanna be strong like them" and it made me want to work out.

The problem is that women (generalization) see good looking girls as a threat to fight against (view it negatively). Men (generalization) on the other hand see good looking guys as an ideal to work towards (view it positively).

Rather than looking at a sexy idolized male/female and becoming jealous, we should become inspired. We should think "if they look that good, surely with a little work I could look that good too!"
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Em0SceneStabr
You sound like a idiot


That was the point.


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relt95 wrote:

I remember watching dragonball when I was younger and I never once thought, "wow such an unrealistic body type this is super sexist" or anything of the sort. Instead I was like, "wow these guys are super strong I wanna be strong like them" and it made me want to work out.

The problem is that women (generalization) see good looking girls as a threat to fight against (view it negatively). Men (generalization) on the other hand see good looking guys as an ideal to work towards (view it positively).

Rather than looking at a sexy idolized male/female and becoming jealous, we should become inspired. We should think "if they look that good, surely with a little work I could look that good too!"




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In b4 new Overwatch
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Wow. People still pay attention to what Blizzard makes? I don't think they've released a game worth playing in over a decade.

If someone is or feels sexy, what's wrong with them flaunting it - regardless of gender? Guys do this all the time after all, preening and flexing with their biceps, hair, etc. The only way to stop the sexualization of our bodies entirely would be to remove our brains and place them all in jars. Even then you'd probably hear comments like, "Ohh baby, the gyri on your cortex are so hot.."
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I understand that men are visual and should not be blamed for that because it is just the way that they are wired.

However, I do not understand how a cartoon character could be sexually attractive. Now, regarding fanfiction, that is different because it is not pictures, but writing, and thus it is up to imagination. I think that leaving things up to the imagination is just fine. But those weird model figures of female anime characters is sexual objectification of women. I'm not a feminist--and I don't agree with feminists. But it is true that such things promote unrealistic body image standards and also overly sexualize things like breasts. And that leads to people being unable to be satisfied, sexually. Look at Japan's culture, please. And also look at the low marriage rate, the high rate of NEET shut-ins, and also the suicide rate among young Japanese. The latter is stunningly high. I have a hunch that this fantasy world of sexual things and giant boobs isn't healthy.

My reasoning, that video, ME!ME!ME! (which I won't post a link to because it is inappropriate for younger viewers/I don't want to be accountable for that lol). If you analyze it, it's pretty obvious that that's exactly what it's talking about. It's damaging. I don't care if you like it. Just because you like something doesn't make it good for you or for society. I'm just saying to please look at another perspective on the matter before you make that snap judgement that sexualizing characters is 'good'.

Otherwise, it just sounds immature

And you're 22--so you are immature. It's okay. Your brain isn't even fully developed yet. You're not thinking--your penis is. It's okay and nothing to be embarrassed about it's just biology and hormones. You aren't emotionally mature at all. Nor will you be until you get older/decide to be. Some men never become emotionally mature. But if you want to be, I suggest meeting and marrying a smart woman.
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But thank you for being honest, mVIII. That took guts.
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I got as far as "Overwatch Controversy" and I already know what this shit is about.
tbh that game isn't worth anyone's time anyway.

#buttgate
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I got as far as "Overwatch Controversy" and I already know what this shit is about.
tbh that game isn't worth anyone's time anyway.

#buttgate


People are just looking to start something honestly, getting really annoying.

The new pose really does fit her better though all things aside. The pose is stylized after old pinups and tracer in Agent Origins is a pilot.
I wouldn't dismiss the game just like that, but to each their own. I think ill quite like the game, might be able to replace that nothingness that me and my friends run into a lot looking for something to play.
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LOL


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That just reminds me of the Quarian getups in Mass Effect
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Tracer's pose getting change isn't a big deal at the end of the day. I looked it up and it was a complaint from a player who had reasonable argument for it. I can actually agree with Blizzard's actions. Players are free to complain and companies are free to listen to their consumers. Had the complaint stemmed from outside the player base where it is being imposed--then I'd have issue with it.

Do I agree with it? Not really, but it doesn't matter. It's understandable and nothing to fuss about.


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I understand that men are visual and should not be blamed for that because it is just the way that they are wired.

However, I do not understand how a cartoon character could be sexually attractive. Now, regarding fanfiction, that is different because it is not pictures, but writing, and thus it is up to imagination. I think that leaving things up to the imagination is just fine. But those weird model figures of female anime characters is sexual objectification of women. I'm not a feminist--and I don't agree with feminists. But it is true that such things promote unrealistic body image standards and also overly sexualize things like breasts. And that leads to people being unable to be satisfied, sexually. Look at Japan's culture, please. And also look at the low marriage rate, the high rate of NEET shut-ins, and also the suicide rate among young Japanese. The latter is stunningly high. I have a hunch that this fantasy world of sexual things and giant boobs isn't healthy.

My reasoning, that video, ME!ME!ME! (which I won't post a link to because it is inappropriate for younger viewers/I don't want to be accountable for that lol). If you analyze it, it's pretty obvious that that's exactly what it's talking about. It's damaging. I don't care if you like it. Just because you like something doesn't make it good for you or for society. I'm just saying to please look at another perspective on the matter before you make that snap judgement that sexualizing characters is 'good'.

Otherwise, it just sounds immature

And you're 22--so you are immature. It's okay. Your brain isn't even fully developed yet. You're not thinking--your penis is. It's okay and nothing to be embarrassed about it's just biology and hormones. You aren't emotionally mature at all. Nor will you be until you get older/decide to be. Some men never become emotionally mature. But if you want to be, I suggest meeting and marrying a smart woman.


This is the worst.

You understand that men are different from women--that they get more gratification from imagery than women (who get more from reading), but then go on to say how one is more wrong than the other. Not only that, but then you go on to shame them for it. What about women that find characters sexually attractive? The sexism is appalling.

Japan has a lot of issues in their population and that's an oversimplified evaluation of the phenomenon. You should try using Google sometime before you engage in speculation to further demonstrate your vilifying preconceptions about men. Women in Japan are having children at an older and less fertile ages--a lot of it has to do with women going into the workforce and getting education.

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Tracer's pose getting change isn't a big deal at the end of the day. I looked it up and it was a complaint from a player who had reasonable argument for it. I can actually agree with Blizzard's actions. Players are free to complain and companies are free to listen to their consumers. Had the complaint stemmed from outside the player base where it is being imposed--then I'd have issue with it.

Do I agree with it? Not really, but it doesn't matter. It's understandable and nothing to fuss about.


lianesrakow wrote:

I understand that men are visual and should not be blamed for that because it is just the way that they are wired.

However, I do not understand how a cartoon character could be sexually attractive. Now, regarding fanfiction, that is different because it is not pictures, but writing, and thus it is up to imagination. I think that leaving things up to the imagination is just fine. But those weird model figures of female anime characters is sexual objectification of women. I'm not a feminist--and I don't agree with feminists. But it is true that such things promote unrealistic body image standards and also overly sexualize things like breasts. And that leads to people being unable to be satisfied, sexually. Look at Japan's culture, please. And also look at the low marriage rate, the high rate of NEET shut-ins, and also the suicide rate among young Japanese. The latter is stunningly high. I have a hunch that this fantasy world of sexual things and giant boobs isn't healthy.

My reasoning, that video, ME!ME!ME! (which I won't post a link to because it is inappropriate for younger viewers/I don't want to be accountable for that lol). If you analyze it, it's pretty obvious that that's exactly what it's talking about. It's damaging. I don't care if you like it. Just because you like something doesn't make it good for you or for society. I'm just saying to please look at another perspective on the matter before you make that snap judgement that sexualizing characters is 'good'.

Otherwise, it just sounds immature

And you're 22--so you are immature. It's okay. Your brain isn't even fully developed yet. You're not thinking--your penis is. It's okay and nothing to be embarrassed about it's just biology and hormones. You aren't emotionally mature at all. Nor will you be until you get older/decide to be. Some men never become emotionally mature. But if you want to be, I suggest meeting and marrying a smart woman.


This is the worst.

You understand that men are different from women--that they get more gratification from imagery than women (who get more from reading), but then go on to say how one is more wrong than the other. Not only that, but then you go on to shame them for it. What about women that find characters sexually attractive? The sexism is appalling.

Japan has a lot of issues in their population and that's an oversimplified evaluation of the phenomenon. You should try using Google sometime before you engage in speculation to further demonstrate your vilifying preconceptions about men. Women in Japan are having children at an older and less fertile ages--a lot of it has to do with women going into the workforce and getting education.



I like you Judar xD

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Wow. People still pay attention to what Blizzard makes? I don't think they've released a game worth playing in over a decade.

If someone is or feels sexy, what's wrong with them flaunting it - regardless of gender? Guys do this all the time after all, preening and flexing with their biceps, hair, etc. The only way to stop the sexualization of our bodies entirely would be to remove our brains and place them all in jars. Even then you'd probably hear comments like, "Ohh baby, the gyri on your cortex are so hot.."


Good one Penguin dog! xD No seriously what you said made sense.
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You're looking at it completely wrong what's generally sexy/appealing about a female isn't typically what is sexy/appealing about a male. a big strong man with muscles on top of his muscles is a pretty unobtainable standard for what a man should look like. I don't recall any vampires in twilight having pot bellies or flabby arms but it's only when it applies to a female that people seem to have a issue with it. I'm not attacking you with this comment.
lol.. not that I will take your comment as anything bad.. and it was a joke XP
but again I think you might get a bit narrow on the "sexy" part.
Muscles isn't the only thing that can be sexy... -___-

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ayaundwolf wrote:
#buttgate
I didn't find the frontgate

lianesrakow wrote:The latter is stunningly high. I have a hunch that this fantasy world of sexual things and giant boobs isn't healthy.

My reasoning, that video, ME!ME!ME! (which I won't post a link to because it is inappropriate for younger viewers/I don't want to be accountable for that lol). If you analyze it, it's pretty obvious that that's exactly what it's talking about. It's damaging. I don't care if you like it. Just because you like something doesn't make it good for you or for society. I'm just saying to please look at another perspective on the matter before you make that snap judgement that sexualizing characters is 'good'.
.. sure males can have a lot more issues around sexaul things then females but then again females do live or have other things that can make it "easier" to either understand sertain things... but not EVERYTHING as some of the females want to say... and act on that they know best or something like that (hunch how some of the cougar's "work" or mostly want with this I will or want to learn you and so on).



Otherwise, it just sounds immature

And you're 22--so you are immature. It's okay. Your brain isn't even fully developed yet. You're not thinking--your penis is. It's okay and nothing to be embarrassed about it's just biology and hormones. You aren't emotionally mature at all. Nor will you be until you get older/decide to be. Some men never become emotionally mature. But if you want to be, I suggest meeting and marrying a smart woman.
hahaha this.. lol.. still I do find some of this being a bit immature as well
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