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Posted 4/9/16

Yomiuri reported on April 7 that the Japanese Government has established a policy to revise the copyright law, in order to eliminate the so-called "Reach Site," which collect links to illegally uploaded anime and films. By setting up clear measures, the government hopes to make it easier to arrest malicious site owners, forcibly shut down their sites, and remove them from search engines. The policy was submitted by Intellectual Property Strategy Headquarters at the 8th Next Generation Intellectual Property System Committee held in Tokyo yesterday. -Mikikazu Komatsu


Link to the Crunchyroll New article-->
[http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/04/09/japanese-government-considering-copyright-law-revision-to-eliminate-video-sites-with-unauthorized-anime-films]
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Basically, Japan is considering new Copyright laws to thwart illegal Anime sites.

I thought I'd make a forum about it to discuss this in depth.

What are your thoughts on this specific matter?

Do you think the new laws will happen?

What effect, --positive, or negative-- do you think this will have on the Anime, J-Drama, & J-Movie industry?

Will this effect my chances of meeting your Mage friend? yes?? YOU LIAR! (Our bond is too strong!)

-Whatever your thoughts on this are, pleas feel free to post about it down below!
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I don't like piracy, and I wont endorse it.

Even the times I read Light Novels and what not... when they are published in English I will buy them. All in all, more power to ya Japan.

As for the effect on the anime industry? They didn't get anything for piracy anyway. This may force people to watch it legally. That or stop (but lets be real here... who would stop watching anime just due to 45 sec - 1.5 min of ads every 7.5 minutes). I get slightly sad watching the anime industry slowly die due to pirating, which makes them increase prices of anime to combat that... That makes less people buy it and all.

Speaking of which... Piracy goes down, I think the prices of the Blu-ray and what not will go down too. They don't need to try to compensate lost money from pirating online when they can make a small pittance (or however much is paid for the rights) from CR or Funimation. Money is money after all...
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dangit. it's going to be a new golden age for the anime and J - media industry in Japan and the states for sure, but here in the UK all the 5 anime fans will riot. we have piss poor distribution of cultural exports from countries like Japan, most of the stuff is only available here at twice the price or illegally. sorry Moko-chan! you're gonna be drinking alot less earl gray and *shudders* call football soccer
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It's a really interesting topic.

The way I see it, those who don't want new Copyright laws, & those who welcome it, all make good points.



For example:

[Pro] It would bring the profits of the shows, back into the pockets of it's creators.

[Con] Those who lack the means to watch Anime due to streaming rights, will face allot of difficulty.



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Just read an interesting comment from Crunchy's main news article.
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So that means this law would only effect Japan?


If that's the case, the Con I posted above might be null.
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Hmm, as someone in the UK I'm not exactly excited. I try to use legal streaming sites for as much as I can, and then what I can't get on there I'll use an illegal site for. So technically unless the legal sites start to get their hands on more anime for where I live, all that'll mean is less anime for me because of something that's pretty much out of my control. All this law does is takes away anime and doesn't offer any solution to those who want to legally support the medium. I personally feel the best way forward is to legally offer a better service than the illegal sites, rather than just remove them outright and say "You'll get what you're given".
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This will only affect linking sites within Japan's jurisdiction. Any site hosted in an area outside of it where copyright law does not reach or is a non factor will continue as always. At most, Japan can block those sites via the ISPs for its own citizens, but not much beyond that without cooperation from other countries.
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I'm really not going to form an opinion on this, other than to say that Japan needs to get with it on allowing stuff to be translated and sold outside of Japan. Like, I don't know, the Suomos Misfits novels ><.
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I'm not a fan of piracy. I think people who create for a living should get paid adequately for what they create. People fail to realize that pirating is actually theft. Stealing is stealing and I like to support enjoy. I'm not saying there isn't a lot of grey in this area but for me personally I am all for anything that helps put a stop to piracy. On the other hand I can understand why people stream shows illegally. Especially if they're in a country where they don't have a lot of options. I can also understand how those who are poor or just don't have the extra money to spend would want to watch their shows. It sucks when everyone else is watching or enjoying something and you can't. Nobody wants to feel left out. Online makes the waters so much murkier. Since there's not an actual product a lot of people don't feel as if they're stealing even though they are. I used to do it all the time until I started feeling so guilty about it that I stopped. I mainly quit because I had just gotten into independent authors and they were always battling piracy. Some of them work really freaking hard and don't have a major publisher backing them so can't afford people stealing their work. I wanted to support them so I started doing things legally. The ONLY area that used to be hard for me was pc games. I hate spending sixty bucks for a game that won't even freaking play because of some weird DRM issue or bugs so it's always nice to be able to download and test it on my rig first. You can't get a refund on computer games and exchanging it for another broken copy does you no good. That was probably the last thing I stopped doing. Now I just try to research what I'm going to buy and make sure it runs on peoples computers who have a similar set up.

I don't like messing with Karma. I don't like taking from others but mainly I really hate not being able to sleep well at night and since I have insomnia this is already an issue. I don't need my conscience thrown on top of it. I just have to do what is right for me. Not going to judge others for doing the same thing I've done in the past though. Sometimes piracy works out in the favor of whatever company is being stolen from. A good example of this is the movie: Ink which btw if you haven't seen it you really should. It's pretty awesome and has some really nice visuals for a independent movie. Piracy actually exposed them to a much larger audience and helped them to sell movies. Here's a paragraph about it from it's wiki page:

According to TorrentFreak, a file sharing news site, Ink was downloaded via BitTorrent 400,000 times in a single week and exposed the film to a large audience, leading to higher DVD and Blu-ray sales in return. Jamin and Kiowa Winans wrote in their newsletter that they had "embraced the piracy" and are "happy Ink is getting unprecedented exposure."

So sometimes it does help expose things to the masses. Not every case ends this well though. I don't know. I think both sides have a lot of merits to their arguments. In the end each of us has to just do what feels right for us to do.
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elizlestrad wrote:

I'm really not going to form an opinion on this, other than to say that Japan needs to get with it on allowing stuff to be translated and sold outside of Japan. Like, I don't know, the Suomos Misfits novels ><.


Ha. I love Strike Witches


When it comes to LN I think Japan is doing pretty well. A favorite of mine (Shield Hero) got an English release last year, & I've been buying them ever since. Still a ways to go on it though. Yet I don't have a super clear understanding of the process it takes to bring those LN overseas, so meh.
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I liken piracy of things like games, shows, and movies to alcohol.

Some is ok, even good for you. Too much can be very bad. None is very disturbing. (quoth the wise developer, "Don't worry when they pirate your game. Worry when they don't")

Anime in the US basically owes its existence to piracy, being vital to growing the nascent fanbase. Even when companies began to legitimately distribute anime, they seemed to understand the debt they owed to the "illegal" fansubbers, and to their credit many early groups would put notices beseeching users to stop distributing their releases once licensed. (Come to think of it, how often do you see that today? :p I still have many fansubs with such messages embedded)

And of course, without piracy, I could never have read or watched the greatness that is Kojika.
Posted 4/9/16
It will be ineffective just like the rest of changes to copyright laws to thwart piracy.
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I don't support piracy.

There is no pros to it like some would have you believe. The main arguing point is that it promotes the anime, but let's fucking put our realism goggles on here: ain't no one going to go buy a copy of an anime that they already watched online.
Posted 4/9/16 , edited 4/9/16

XxDarkSasuxX wrote:

I don't support piracy.

There is no pros to it like some would have you believe. The main arguing point is that it promotes the anime, but let's fucking put our realism goggles on here: ain't no one going to go buy a copy of an anime that they already watched online.


Maybe I am strange, but I buy anime I like after watching it online, assuming the pricing isn't an obscene rip off (eg almost $80 for 4 episodes in one case).

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prh99 wrote:


XxDarkSasuxX wrote:

I don't support piracy.

There is no pros to it like some would have you believe. The main arguing point is that it promotes the anime, but let's fucking put our realism goggles on here: ain't no one going to go buy a copy of an anime that they already watched online.


Maybe I am strange, but I buy anime I like after watching it online, assuming the pricing isn't an obscene rip off (eg almost $80 for 4 episodes in one case).

Same.I still have a small backlog of things I want to buy from what I remember that I'd watched before getting crunchyroll.

My problem is that people like you are extremely rare. Piracy could be a great thing.. but it just isn't.
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