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Posted 4/9/16 , edited 4/9/16

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are they seriously going to try and thwart international ones, or domestic ones? because they really shouldn't have authority to interfere with sites outside their jurisdiction regardless of their legality or not if they're not japanese based. like when the JP government apparently tried to DDoS some fansub groups? that shouldn't be allowed, I mean honestly, aren't the japanese focused more on their own market anyway? they adamantly refuse to hand over the rights and publish their music & content to many legal sources, sometimes illegal methods are all we have if we want to obtain their stuff without having to pay a petty little fucking fortune: and I'm mainly talking about jpop here.

it's not going to work regardless. piracy always finds a way.

lol @ the people so bloody against it, you try having no money and then get back to me about how easy it is to obtain this crap legally or pay for subs

also, nobody wants to watch shitty quality 360p streams legally when you can download an 1080p one for free :)


Not to mention Japan is in such crippling debt that I don't know how the government can afford to waste such money.


if they're stupid enough on their conquest for money they might, but that'll just skyrocket their own prices through the roof, as if they're not already expensive enough

for a nation that acts likes its entitled ass is focused on domestic gross they seem to have way too much of a stick up their butts about international people pirating their content

either way they cant mandate the internet without borders, plenty of american laws trying to do the same shit have been promptly shelved, such as SOPA / PIPA / ACTA and their familiars. one country cannot control the web as a whole, one country cannot control sites belonging to outlying nations without cooperation from that country's authorities, and so on. there's already enough goddamn dmca takedowns i see on google filed on behalf of the american companies that license these anime, the japanese don't need to be doing their job for them, if the licensors want it taken down off a site fine, but the japanese really have no jurisdiction of subbed stuff being reposted if it's licensed by an international company, and if the western/international company wants to take it down that's their business, not the japaneses
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if it wasnt for pirate sites, i would have never gotten into anime. i dont abuy a whole lot, but if there is a series esp manga that i want to get, and cant get it legally, (happens alot) then i pirate it.
there is a manga i love that is pirated, at vol 4, but just recently it was released state side up to vol 6, so i stopped reading the pirate version and am waiting to buy the whole series in hardcopy legally.
over all, anime for me would be alot less intresting without pirate. becuase half the time, you cant get it legal anyways. japan needs to get with the 90's and start streaming stuff instead of relying on dvd sales.
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My problem is that how Anime is Advertised in america, It's like the really good stuff like Gundam and such ( I feel sleepy atm xD) are not in peoples faces enough, like I could ask a random person on the street "You ever heard of Gundam?" and they probably wont even know what I'm talking about.

Plus on that Subject, it might be changing but Gundam DVD's are f*cking expensive.
But Also I don't Steal.


Even though it's more mainstream now, it's still not mainstream enough for people to say 'OMG lets go watch Gundam!'.

Believe it or not, there's still plenty of people in the mainstream that still thinks of anime as either:

--Yugioh/Pokemon/Sailor Moon stuff that they might've liked years ago in middle school or nowadays, Attack on Titan.

--hentai/loliporn

--'those movies that are made by that studio...whatsis...Spirited Away?' ( a friend of mine)
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Posted 4/9/16 , edited 4/9/16

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I think they're forgetting that the only reason anime is so popular outside of Japan is because you can watch it for free... If anime was never pirated, this industry would not nearly be as global as it is.

That being said, if an anime isn't on Crunchyroll or Netflix, than I'm watching illegally. That's what these Japanese companies need to do, they need to allow their anime to be on either CR or Netflix, otherwise nobody is going pay for it.


Or funimation or hulu or amazon prime. I have yet to really have issues watching an anime legally (minus Code Geass).


I don't get paid enough to subscribe to 5 different websites. And watching them for free on those sites is not worth the million ads and the low quality to make you subscribe. No thanks.


So? What's the difference?

You'd be still watching ads if this was on Toonami. It ain't 2000 anymore; most new shows/movies do get licensed and wind up streaming somewhere
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Why do you care? We have cr and that's better then sites like [site that shall not be named].

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I used to go to [site that shall not be named] back in the day. They annoyed me so much because it took FOREVER to load
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Even ignoring the whole Western piracy debate...I'm reading that this is Japan only, correct? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Otherwise, good.

Pirating from withing Japan strikes me as low when you could literally watch it on television there.
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*broadcasts the shows late at night and makes the BDs really expensive*

*proceeds to wonder why there is an issue with piracy*
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I guess [site that shall not be named] is about to die!
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there's a series you want to watch that's not licensed by any legal streaming site, and the disk costs a few hundred / thousand dollars?
too bad!

Just how it is. Hard to see when you don't realize that you're not entitled to everything.


As far as customers go, lack of entitlement in itself here is a moot point.

The company chose not to do business with those customers. They don't have inherent entitlement to those customers' money either. Monetizing a product is what entitles one to financial gain, not making a product.

This isn't necessarily a bad thing. Speaking from a business standpoint, there are instances where doing business with a set of customers is not profitable. The price we must accept in return is that those customers have no moral obligation to us because we've accepted no obligation to them.

LOL WHAT. That's literally great. Entitlement is a moot point, but then you go off and give a reason as to why you feel like it's okay to illegally download and watch anime? The derp is real.


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Ah yes. The whole try before you buy argument. 'Cept very few buy.


Tell that to my 100 game library. Half of them I tried before I bought. I pirated HOI3 from paradox a long time ago. Now I own all of HOI3, EU3, EU4, Victora, CK2, and most of their DLC. They've made hundreds off of me and I still intend to throw my money at their games. Piracy helped them.

Yah sure. A bunch of people on the internet can talk the talk and say they try before they buy. But since trade-ins are such a common thing with games, the mindset isn't exactly the same. Do you buy new or used? How far do you even have to get in the game to warrant that you pay for it? Etc. and rhetorical.
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I don't support piracy.

There is no pros to it like some would have you believe. The main arguing point is that it promotes the anime, but let's fucking put our realism goggles on here: ain't no one going to go buy a copy of an anime that they already watched online.


Plenty of people do that.
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:

I don't support piracy.

There is no pros to it like some would have you believe. The main arguing point is that it promotes the anime, but let's fucking put our realism goggles on here: ain't no one going to go buy a copy of an anime that they already watched online.


Plenty of people do that.

Yes, that's why we have so many pandering shows, an industry that only survives on sexualized merchandise, one-season shows, new copy-right laws, etc.
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Yes, that's why we have so many pandering shows, an industry that only survives on sexualized merchandise, one-season shows, new copy-right laws, etc.


None of those things have anything to do with piracy except maybe the copyright laws. I don't even understand why you replied to my post to say that.

If you're going to try and pull some ridiculous """"""""facts"""""""" out of nowhere to try to substantiate such a retarded post, please refrain from doing so.
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:

Yes, that's why we have so many pandering shows, an industry that only survives on sexualized merchandise, one-season shows, new copy-right laws, etc.


None of those things have anything to do with piracy except maybe the copyright laws. I don't even understand why you replied to my post to say that.

If you're going to try and pull some ridiculous """"""""facts"""""""" out of nowhere to try to substantiate such a retarded post, please refrain from doing so.

LOL k. Let's ignore that the industry is not getting paid from the sheer abundance of pirateers.
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


evilpuffball wrote:


XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


namealreadytaken wrote:

there's a series you want to watch that's not licensed by any legal streaming site, and the disk costs a few hundred / thousand dollars?
too bad!

Just how it is. Hard to see when you don't realize that you're not entitled to everything.


As far as customers go, lack of entitlement in itself here is a moot point.

The company chose not to do business with those customers. They don't have inherent entitlement to those customers' money either. Monetizing a product is what entitles one to financial gain, not making a product.

This isn't necessarily a bad thing. Speaking from a business standpoint, there are instances where doing business with a set of customers is not profitable. The price we must accept in return is that those customers have no moral obligation to us because we've accepted no obligation to them.

LOL WHAT. That's literally great. Entitlement is a moot point, but then you go off and give a reason as to why you feel like it's okay to illegally download and watch anime? The derp is real.


Rujikin wrote:


XxDarkSasuxX wrote:

Ah yes. The whole try before you buy argument. 'Cept very few buy.


Tell that to my 100 game library. Half of them I tried before I bought. I pirated HOI3 from paradox a long time ago. Now I own all of HOI3, EU3, EU4, Victora, CK2, and most of their DLC. They've made hundreds off of me and I still intend to throw my money at their games. Piracy helped them.

Yah sure. A bunch of people on the internet can talk the talk and say they try before they buy. But since trade-ins are such a common thing with games, the mindset isn't exactly the same. Do you buy new or used? How far do you even have to get in the game to warrant that you pay for it? Etc. and rhetorical.

100 games just on steam. I've even bought games I no longer play that I pirated a long time ago just because I seen it on sale. I haven't even played them since I bought them, god damned steam sales keep raping my wallet. So not only do I try before I buy I have bought games I pirated long before steam just because I could.

There are no new or used on steam you filthy console peasant.
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