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you filthy console peasant.

HEY. No need for name calling.
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how to promote something: get pewdiepie to play/watch it

watch its popularity spike 50fold
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LOL k. Let's ignore that the industry is not getting paid from the sheer abundance of pirateers.


Tell me where I said or implied that.
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(apologies in advance for any typos or weirdly worded sentences. Sleep meds are kicking in now)
Well, I've seen a lot of stuff talking about how the anime industry is struggling to produce good content because of how much money they are losing from illegal streaming/piracy sites. This is why we're seeing so much shorter anime (10-12 episodes for most of the newer series) I feel like this kind of move is pretty reasonable from their point of view. And as someone who loves anime, I want to see my favorite anime get second seasons and all that. I want to see lots of new anime with better quality and if this will help that happen I'm in support. I can see how this can disadvantage some, but I believe the industry is just doing what it needs to in order to survive. I figured to help the industry I had two options. 1- Stream it illegally but also purchase paraphernalia from the companies. 2- Find a way that's not Netfix (because my parents pretty much control the TV and my computer just does NOT handle Netflix well, additionally, they don't have a whole ton of anime that I want to watch or haven't already watched in the first place.) to watch anime legally and support the industry. And, well, I just don't have hundreds of dollars to pour into figures and whatnot. Sooooo here I am. (again, apologies if it's rambly or derpy sounding. I tried.)
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i find it funny that people are trying so hard to protect people's 'right' to pirated content. Can't say I'm not guilty of watching walking dead on suspicious sites, but it's just not something I can argue for and still think I'm right

...but if things work for my favor I definitely won't complain
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:

LOL k. Let's ignore that the industry is not getting paid from the sheer abundance of pirateers.


Tell me where I said or implied that.


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None of those things have anything to do with piracy except maybe the copyright laws. I don't even understand why you replied to my post to say that.

If you're going to try and pull some ridiculous """"""""facts"""""""" out of nowhere to try to substantiate such a retarded post, please refrain from doing so.

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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


Saemonza wrote:


XxDarkSasuxX wrote:

LOL k. Let's ignore that the industry is not getting paid from the sheer abundance of pirateers.


Tell me where I said or implied that.


Saemonza wrote:

None of those things have anything to do with piracy except maybe the copyright laws. I don't even understand why you replied to my post to say that.

If you're going to try and pull some ridiculous """"""""facts"""""""" out of nowhere to try to substantiate such a retarded post, please refrain from doing so.



Nowhere in that post did I say or imply that the industry wasn't losing money due to pirates. You listed the content of the industry and the purchases of the industry consumers as direct effects of piracy, which is blatantly incorrect and honestly pretty stupid.
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Saemonza wrote:


XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


Saemonza wrote:


XxDarkSasuxX wrote:

LOL k. Let's ignore that the industry is not getting paid from the sheer abundance of pirateers.


Tell me where I said or implied that.


Saemonza wrote:

None of those things have anything to do with piracy except maybe the copyright laws. I don't even understand why you replied to my post to say that.

If you're going to try and pull some ridiculous """"""""facts"""""""" out of nowhere to try to substantiate such a retarded post, please refrain from doing so.



Nowhere in that post did I say or imply that the industry wasn't losing money due to pirates. You listed the content of the industry and the purchases of the industry consumers as direct effects of piracy, which is blatantly incorrect and honestly pretty stupid.

Hmm. I said it was a direct and exclusive effect of piracy? Don't remember that. Oh well.

The industry is struggling while all these piraters be like "What's going on?", expecting the studios to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Would we still have pandering shows, and sexualized merchandise, and one season shows? Yah. But not nearly as many.
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this sounds like it would only affect sites hosted or linking to sites within the boundaries of Japan. Doesn't sound like it would affect international distribution too much. International distribution is still abysmal at best for anyone outside the US courtesy of flawed licensing systems and a number of other factors.

Ofcourse, I'd prefer rightsholders to stop treating piracy like it's a capital crime that would merit the removal of ones head....or hands, or any part of the body.
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:

The industry is struggling while all these piraters be like "What's going on?", expecting the studios to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps.


http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-01/report-japan-animation-industry-reached-record-high-in-2013/.82767

If you can find any later statistics that show a concerning decline, I'll gladly concede here, but I'm sick of this "anime is dying" meme.


Would we still have pandering shows, and sexualized merchandise, and one season shows? Yah. But not nearly as many.


There's absolutely no way for you to support this statement with any sort of fact. Doing so is just not possible, as it doesn't make sense.
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LOL WHAT. That's literally great. Entitlement is a moot point, but then you go off and give a reason as to why you feel like it's okay to illegally download and watch anime? The derp is real.


I do agree that Western fans are entitled...hell, I even admit to this sometimes, though I was worse when I was younger...when dvds/brs are literally hundreds of dollars like Aniplex/Pony titles are...I can't really blame people for looking at things illegally, especially if they have sites that don't stream those titles.

I mean, most of the demographic that likes anime can't afford Aniplex. Hell, I got a good job and I can't afford aniplex...

Also....seriously, where on earth did you get the idea of anime dying?! While I do agree that piracy plays a role saleswise, I mean....come on now. If anything it seems like it's hitting a boom again.
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Saemonza wrote:


XxDarkSasuxX wrote:

The industry is struggling while all these piraters be like "What's going on?", expecting the studios to just pull themselves up by their bootstraps.


http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-01/report-japan-animation-industry-reached-record-high-in-2013/.82767

If you can find any later statistics that show a concerning decline, I'll gladly concede here, but I'm sick of this "anime is dying" meme.
Whoa. I didn't realize the word 'struggling' was equated to the word 'dying'.



Would we still have pandering shows, and sexualized merchandise, and one season shows? Yah. But not nearly as many.


There's absolutely no way for you to support this statement with any sort of fact. Doing so is just not possible, as it doesn't make sense.

Yah. I forgot. Businesses don't want to make money off of well received shows. It's not because they didn't get enough money to continue a series or anything. That certainly isn't a plausible reason at all. Must been cuz lazyness oar sumfin.
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You aren't even saying anything at this point.
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You aren't even saying anything at this point.

Of course not. You never refuted a point I made before. Derp
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Personally, I do pirate some anime, but only ones that aren't being released on streaming sites (I have more subs to streaming sites than just CR). I like to try and watch all anime that premiere in a season that appeal to me. Sometimes they just don't broadcast some here. Also sometimes they don't have a Roku app I can use, so I use my media server. I more than likely will also drop money on the official BR releases too (even if it is one i have downloaded), mostly to have the physical case and disc to add to my shelf (imagine the scene from Hot Fuzz when they visit Nick Frost's house and they show the DVD collection he has, that is my goal :3 ). Love it or hate it, people will find ways to pirate, and unfortunately this law may negatively affect the anime industry. Similar to how they are starting to crack down on doujins now too.
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