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As long Marcus Octavius remain in power the US won't fall!

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Of course, I just wanted to discussed it on here. Since lot of people saying US are lot like Roman.. and that someday we'll fall. But like others said lot of countries are base from Rome! After all everyone wanted to be Roman! :p

Pity, if only you said yes to me when I asked you for a date for the Prom dance.. I would have given you Rome!....Maybe! :p
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England during the 18th and 19th century believed it was the Roman Empire, and bragged about it. To any colonist or East Indian that would listen.
Of course, it also helped that England was formed on ancient Roman rule, and knew what they were talking about.

Unlike delusional image-obsessed fanboys who bend everyone's ear about their fantasy worlds based on gaijin anime nobody ever saw.


Wha! My is real! Its not Fantasy world! >:[ -Ripped Ejanss's ear off-
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Not surprised this came from AlterNet, as it's just a bunch of hyperbolized generalizations (basically true of any major power) deployed to attack Western civilization. Its understanding of history and political philosophy is fairly poor too; I'll go after just the eighth point and the quote at the end:

Checks and balances imply gridlock. That the U.S. congress is slow to effect change is probably the best sign that the republic is still functioning. So the extent to which congress's low approval rating comes from not "getting stuff done" indicates the lack of understanding Americans have of their own political system. That, and the exaggerated perception of the presidency - who people think should "go around" congress - goes along nicely with the ideological shift in American society as a whole towards authoritarianism.

The problem is that, for any kind of democratic government to function, the populace has to share at least some ideals - in particular, a belief in the governing system itself, and in the rule of law. At this point the political factions in the U.S. can barely agree on the weather, and belief in the rule of law is basically out the window.
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Meh, as a Canadian I could care less but does this mean I get to call America a nation of boy lovers who couldn't get their hasta's up if you know what I mean?
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Meh, as a Canadian I could care less but does this mean I get to call America a nation of boy lovers who couldn't get their hasta's up if you know what I mean?



I was wondering when you going to post! :p I thought you're American... If you were born in America, come on back!

Just because I got love for Rome, doesn't mean I got no feeling for woman, I got lot of love for roman women...Their bodies is to die for!
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Of course, I just wanted to discussed it on here. Since lot of people saying US are lot like Roman.. and that someday we'll fall. But like others said lot of countries are base from Rome! After all everyone wanted to be Roman! :p


Saying that "someday we'll fall" to me is kinda like saying "the sky is blue"... No regime lasts forever. Besides, I don't really care because it'd happen after I'm long gone (same sorta answer as to discussions about the sun eventually swallowing up earth )
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JanusCascade wrote:




Of course, I just wanted to discussed it on here. Since lot of people saying US are lot like Roman.. and that someday we'll fall. But like others said lot of countries are base from Rome! After all everyone wanted to be Roman! :p


Saying that "someday we'll fall" to me is kinda like saying "the sky is blue"... No regime lasts forever. Besides, I don't really care because it'd happen after I'm long gone (same sorta answer as to discussions about the sun eventually swallowing up earth )



Just noticed you edited out this one "Pity, if only you said yes to me when I asked you for a date for the Prom dance.. I would have given you Rome!....Maybe! :p "

-grab nanikore2 hand and start dancing-
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For all the talk about how Rome fell, we might do well to remember that the Roman Empire lasted for around 500 years, preceded by the Roman Republic by another 500 years. Very few are those who can count them so lucky among countries. USA is still in the ring though and the bell tolled the end of the first round, just try keep yourself on your feet for another 4...

Good point, Rome survived long after the end of the Republic. Of course, even when the city of Rome itself was eventually sacked this didn't mean the end of Roman civilisation. Half of the Empire endured, as the Eastern Roman Empire based in the city of Constantinople (now modern day Istanbul), which later renamed itself the Byzantine Empire. As such, the Byzantine Empire lasted until 1453 AD, when Constantinople was conquered by the Ottomans. Impressively really, nearly a full 1500 years after the end of the Republic, Roman civilisation still survived. If anything, it’s the institutions of the Empire that helped Rome thrive for so long, in spite of the obvious corruption and decadence that took root in the final years of the Republic.

As for any parallels between Rome and the USA, I think that such links are tenuous at best. Besides the traces of Roman culture that have imbued western philosophical thought, there isn’t really any part of American society I would call distinctly Roman. The American senate operates completely differently; the organisation of the army is totally different to that of the Roman Legions; to say nothing of the vastly different religious practises between the two civilisations. If the USA wants to survive the next 1500 years as a great power it will need to find a solution of its own, because what the USA is doing right now doesn’t follow the model of civilisation established by Rome.

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I notice no one seems to have mentioned indolence and vice as precursors to societal collapse. JUST LIKE THE ROMANS, or so the legends foretell.
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I've been comparing the status of the US to the fall of Rome when explaining my world view to my friends/family for about 10 years now. Let's also not forget our crappy infrastructure that was once world class. Obviously the differences in organization means while the problems are the same the outcome may differ. I think we can avoid any stupidly bloody civil wars with the way things are set up as they are now. Domestic terrorism on the other hand...
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JanusCascade wrote:

Just noticed you edited out this one "Pity, if only you said yes to me when I asked you for a date for the Prom dance.. I would have given you Rome!....Maybe! :p "

-grab nanikore2 hand and start dancing-


Hate to break this to you but that's because I don't swing that way
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All cultures that value celebrity over intellect are doomed to failure.
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nanikore2 wrote:


JanusCascade wrote:

Just noticed you edited out this one "Pity, if only you said yes to me when I asked you for a date for the Prom dance.. I would have given you Rome!....Maybe! :p "

-grab nanikore2 hand and start dancing-


Hate to break this to you but that's because I don't swing that way



Don't tell me you're male? XD I thought you were female! :p


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Ah ok, don't tell me.. I understand that you cannot say because of Pervert Peripheral Visionary (PV!!!)
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All cultures that value celebrity over intellect are doomed to failure.



eh.. Roman are all about intellect! :]
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