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Post Reply Transexual people get the worst in prison
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Posted 4/17/16 , edited 4/17/16

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Ryulightorb wrote:Why the hell is this a normal thing i mean i get the logic of sending them to a male prison...(i don't agree with it) but surely common sense would dictate that this kind of thing would happen.

what do you think i think they should have moved her to the female prison i mean the same thing might have happened but it would be less i would imagine.


Sort of the darker side of the whole "Southern bathroom" issue, where wishful imagination crashes up against the real world of genital function.


But if they have had the transition and operation surely they should be accepted as the gender they have transitioned to

In American prison you aren't given any rights or priviledges. People indulging your fantasy is a privilege.

Though I'd be willing to bet a woman would still be sent to a men's prison due to double standards.
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Posted 4/17/16 , edited 4/17/16

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Ryulightorb wrote:


Ejanss wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:Why the hell is this a normal thing i mean i get the logic of sending them to a male prison...(i don't agree with it) but surely common sense would dictate that this kind of thing would happen.

what do you think i think they should have moved her to the female prison i mean the same thing might have happened but it would be less i would imagine.


Sort of the darker side of the whole "Southern bathroom" issue, where wishful imagination crashes up against the real world of genital function.


But if they have had the transition and operation surely they should be accepted as the gender they have transitioned to

In American prison you aren't given any rights or priviledges. People indulging your fantasy is a privilege.

Though I'd be willing to bet a woman would still be sent to a men's prison due to double standards.


American Prisons are shit. I'd rather be sent to Iraq. Also, American anything doesn't apply to this story because guess what, this happened in AUSTRALIA.

Also, here's that "based on what" evidence you wanted that Transgendered people are raped more in prison then regular inmates (American statistics since you're American):

About 39% of Transgender inmates are sexually abused: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/svpjri1112_st.pdf

And about 4% (after doing the math) of regular inmates are abused: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ssvacf0911st.pdf

It's adorable by the way that you think that Gender Identity Disorder is a fantasy.
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American Prisons are shit. I'd rather be sent to Iraq. Also, American anything doesn't apply to this story because guess what, this happened in AUSTRALIA.
My bad. Wasn't interested and didn't read the article. Just assumed 'Merica.


Also, here's that "based on what" evidence you wanted that Transgendered people are raped more in prison then regular inmates (American statistics since you're American):

About 39% of Transgender inmates are sexually abused: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/svpjri1112_st.pdf

And about 4% (after doing the math) of regular inmates are abused: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ssvacf0911st.pdf
I guess you're right. Rape doesn't happen too often in prison because many people are willing. The ones that aren't are the ones that get raped. So you right. My b.


It's adorable by the way that you think that Gender Identity Disorder is a fantasy.
Oops. Didn't mean to imply that gender disphoria was a fantasy. I was actually referring to SRS.
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Ejanss wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:Why the hell is this a normal thing i mean i get the logic of sending them to a male prison...(i don't agree with it) but surely common sense would dictate that this kind of thing would happen.

what do you think i think they should have moved her to the female prison i mean the same thing might have happened but it would be less i would imagine.


Sort of the darker side of the whole "Southern bathroom" issue, where wishful imagination crashes up against the real world of genital function.


But if they have had the transition and operation surely they should be accepted as the gender they have transitioned to

In American prison you aren't given any rights or priviledges. People indulging your fantasy is a privilege.

Though I'd be willing to bet a woman would still be sent to a men's prison due to double standards.


Once you have had a sex change it's hardly a fantasy as the only thing that can't be changed are chromosomes.
Even if you are given no privileges you should be sent to the right prison if you have transitioned you should be sent the gender you transitioned to's prison.

But some people disagree which just makes it hard for anyone who is like the person in this story.

It's unfair that trans people are treated as who they were before they transitioned imo.
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the only thing that can't be changed are chromosomes.

Exactly.
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the only thing that can't be changed are chromosomes.

Exactly.



which shouldn't dictate which gender they "Legally" are seen as or which jail they are put in imo.

Honestly the only thing about gender that matters really is the body and sexual organs if one can change both of those they should be recognized as the opposite gender imo.

Biologically they are still male sure but socially they aren't and i think that to much importance is put on chromosones and people make a big deal out of nothing and get upset when someone wants to have there body changed and to be of the opposite sex.


I hope one day people will allow others to have sex changes and recognize them as the other gender but until that day this shit will keep happening.
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Prison is prison. It's bad for everyone, no matter what you look like, identify as, claim to be. Don't know why a trans is getting so much attention.
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Ryulightorb wrote:


XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:

the only thing that can't be changed are chromosomes.

Exactly.



which shouldn't dictate which gender they "Legally" are seen as or which jail they are put in imo.
Hmm. So you admit that they are biologically the gender they reject, but then turn around and say they should be treated as the gender they identify as. Lel as I said before, you're generally not going to receive special treatment in prison.


Honestly . . . imo.



Biologically they are still male sure but socially they aren't and i think that to much importance is put on chromosones and people make a big deal out of nothing and get upset when someone wants to have there body changed and to be of the opposite sex.
This is already getting tiring.

You know, it's quite funny that people accept without question those who reject their sex, but not those who reject their race, species, personality or any other mental illness that causes either dysphoria or a disconnect between certain aspects of their identity with what/who they are.


I hope one day people will allow others to have sex changes and recognize them as the other gender but until that day this shit will keep happening.
I would if we lived in the future where a sex change operation wasn't a glorified combination of plastic surgery, a silicone injection, lifelong hormone therapy, and a vaginoplasty/phalloplasty.

But we don't.


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Prison is prison. It's bad for everyone, no matter what you look like, identify as, claim to be. Don't know why a trans is getting so much attention.

WHAT

YOU AREN'T DEFENDING THIS PERSON JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE TRANS?!?
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Posted 4/17/16 , edited 4/17/16

XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:

the only thing that can't be changed are chromosomes.

Exactly.



which shouldn't dictate which gender they "Legally" are seen as or which jail they are put in imo.
Hmm. So you admit that they are biologically the gender they reject, but then turn around and say they should be treated as the gender they identify as. Lel as I said before, you're generally not going to receive special treatment in prison.


Honestly . . . imo.



Biologically they are still male sure but socially they aren't and i think that to much importance is put on chromosones and people make a big deal out of nothing and get upset when someone wants to have there body changed and to be of the opposite sex.
This is already getting tiring.

You know, it's quite funny that people accept without question those who reject their sex, but not those who reject their race, species, personality or any other mental illness that causes either dysphoria or a disconnect between certain aspects of their identity with what/who they are.


I hope one day people will allow others to have sex changes and recognize them as the other gender but until that day this shit will keep happening.
I would if we lived in the future where a sex change operation wasn't a glorified combination of plastic surgery, a silicone injection, lifelong hormone therapy, and a vaginoplasty/phalloplasty.

But we don't.



Well its fine for you to have that opinion it's not hurting anyone but i hope people are different in the future especially because i have friends who are trans.

Special treatment or not putting someone that is recognized as a women in a mans jail is obviously going to cause alot of problems its best to put them in the female prison if they transitioned.

You can't change your chromosomes however just because you were born male doesn't mean you should have to be seen as one.
My friend has a male body but by all means she is a she and i will always recognize her as such.

In the end you can't change your gender biologically but you can change your gender identity and socially which is a big difference.


Hopefully society will become more accepting of transexual people and as we progress scientifically we can make the switch biologically some day if that is even possible (probably to soon to say yes or no)

Also its more to the point that its accepted because it's the only thing that can help those who are transexual.
Transitioning is the only way to diminish the dysphoria and lower the suicide rates of those who are Transexual that's why it's accepted.

It's a neurological disorder at the end of the day and if having a sex change makes things better society should accept that.
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Shouldve thought about that before she did her dirt. 0 fucks given
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(probably to soon to say yes or no)

Pretty much.

Modern SRS isn't sufficient IMO.
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:

(probably to soon to say yes or no)

Pretty much.

Modern SRS isn't sufficient IMO.



Fair enough i can't argue against that.
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Shouldve thought about that before she did her dirt. 0 fucks given



Cause stealing a car means you should be raped 2000+ times
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Shouldve thought about that before she did her dirt. 0 fucks given



Cause stealing a car means you should be raped 2000+ times


In my opinion if you steal anything from anyone the minimum punishment should be having your arms broken. Also, like I said. she shouldve thought about the consequences of her actions before she did the shit. I honestly want to know why she was under the impression that she wouldnt be going to a male prison? Did she think they would send her to a female prison while she had a penis?
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It's a prison, not daycare. When you're locked up with fellow criminals and virtual monsters, terrible shit happens.
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