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Post Reply A thing I wanted to say about Rainbow Six Siege.
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Posted 4/17/16 , edited 4/17/16
First off, This game is really cool, neat ideas and blowing up walls and fluent controls and really fun... however theres a big problem.

See, sometimes it's hard for game developers to make proper games when some people don't know whats an actually fun video game.

The thing is theres no respawns... and thats a huge problem.

Because it goes both ways, it's not just "I die and dont get to play until later"
its also "The other team could be half dead and I have no one to shoot ... weeee... " T-T

Like look at Splatoon, each team has one spawn point on opposite sides on the map and theres also a jump feature, so spawn killing is not too much of an issue also in competitive ranked matches theres objectives that you want to aim for rather than killing the team.

Rainbowsix is fun but gosh it can be very frequently not fun with its no respawns for either side.
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I think its better off without respawns. I can see they tried to make this game as realistically as possible but also fun. If there were respawns then people wouldnt play carefully. Only thing i wish the could do is kick out players that team kill or at least give them like a temporary ban for it.
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Maybe they should put in different game modes that are just similar to what you are describing (Team death match) as opposed to Search and destroy while keeping the main game mode for ranked.
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Posted 4/18/16

XyaCat wrote:

I think its better off without respawns. I can see they tried to make this game as realistically as possible but also fun. If there were respawns then people wouldnt play carefully. Only thing i wish the could do is kick out players that team kill or at least give them like a temporary ban for it.


But I literately gone through rounds where I shoot almost no one and the game ends... ohh... oh man...
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Posted 4/18/16

AzuroHeart wrote:


XyaCat wrote:

I think its better off without respawns. I can see they tried to make this game as realistically as possible but also fun. If there were respawns then people wouldnt play carefully. Only thing i wish the could do is kick out players that team kill or at least give them like a temporary ban for it.


But I literately gone through rounds where I shoot almost no one and the game ends... ohh... oh man...


Then don't die. Rainbow six games never have respawns so you need to understand this.
Its no fun to respawn in a building already destroyed. The point is your suppose to play careful and play smart! Check your god damn corners and dont be a scrub and you will like the game.

Go play call of duty.
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Posted 4/18/16

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AzuroHeart wrote:


XyaCat wrote:

I think its better off without respawns. I can see they tried to make this game as realistically as possible but also fun. If there were respawns then people wouldnt play carefully. Only thing i wish the could do is kick out players that team kill or at least give them like a temporary ban for it.


But I literately gone through rounds where I shoot almost no one and the game ends... ohh... oh man...


Then don't die. Rainbow six games never have respawns so you need to understand this.
Its no fun to respawn in a building already destroyed. The point is your suppose to play careful and play smart! Check your god damn corners and dont be a scrub and you will like the game.

Go play call of duty.


Whooo Whoo! All aboard the assumption train!

Besides, buildings dont get destroyed but I see what you mean by walls being destroyed, but then if it doesn't work then something needs to be done.

I know you don't speak for the developers if you say "It doesn't need to be fixed".

Plus stating if it's a tradition for Rainbow Six games to not have respawns, that doesn't make it better, it never has for many thousands of years of human history, that Tradition was the override point for an argument to conclude a subject properly, it only makes things worse.

I can state that other games have made respawns not too much of an issue like Splatoon, thus I suspect you have not played that game and knowing how kinda cleaver the game and maps and spawn points are designed and how I would dub it a superior game over Rainbowsix Siege and Call of duty.

Your also stating I suck at games when I literately said it goes both ways with no respawns, as when the other team is decimated, I almost have no one to shoot which I feel not satisfied, which you could only say I'm wrong if I would be lying but then why would I be lying at this point?

Plus do I suck at games? I dunno, not up to me.

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Posted 4/18/16
I would say this kind of thing depends entirely on the type of game you enjoy playing. I could suggest a few games that enjoy stress free spawning like Section 8 or Planetside. The problem is (or isn't) that these games are considered intensely casual.

Elimination isn't for everybody and that's totally cool. I grew up on that mess. Last box of pizza at the LAN went to the winners so I'm kind of high strung and like intense games... over pizza.

Also, there's probably already mods that add spawns if you look for them. The trouble is finding people to play with. I'm a base gamer myself but I know there's communities out there.
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Posted 4/18/16 , edited 4/18/16
Miss the old Battlefield Bad Company Playing fields...much more fun then games like these taking themselfs sometimes too serious..

Yes a destructive building... but what can you do with them?..¨just blow them up?
and since its soo destructive and detailed they mostly can't make much bigger areas/maps.. and that makes me sad..

I loved the older Rainbow six (the "real" ones based of his books with plenty of story for the most part)
and much bigger playing fields for both the forces or terrorists to move, plan, attack.
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Posted 4/18/16 , edited 4/18/16

bahrawox wrote:

I would say this kind of thing depends entirely on the type of game you enjoy playing. I could suggest a few games that enjoy stress free spawning like Section 8 or Planetside. The problem is (or isn't) that these games are considered intensely casual.

Elimination isn't for everybody and that's totally cool. I grew up on that mess. Last box of pizza at the LAN went to the winners so I'm kind of high strung and like intense games... over pizza.

Also, there's probably already mods that add spawns if you look for them. The trouble is finding people to play with. I'm a base gamer myself but I know there's communities out there.


Ever played Rainbow SIx Vegas 2? I used to be on a "Game Battles" Team.

Im really not trying to be like "Im so f*cking good at video games" but its not a question of sucking or not, its that I want to have an all out brawl with people at times and other times i can be very thought out, and I brawled with people in Vegas 2 and people kinda sh*t themselves because I was able to shoot them down faster than they could with a P90 or FMC or AK 47 or Cammondo and other guns.

And I still do but now when I make a mistake im penalized for it, and it's also a question of game design, weather or not this a better or worse idea, so far no respawns have left me unsatisfied, winning or losing.
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Posted 4/18/16 , edited 4/18/16

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Ever played Rainbow SIx Vegas 2? I used to be on a "Game Battles" Team.

Im really not trying to be like "Im so f*cking good at video games" but its not a question of sucking or not, its that I want to have an all out brawl with people at times and other times i can be very thought out, and I brawled with people in Vegas 2 and people kinda sh*t themselves because I was able to shoot them down faster than they could with a P90 or FMC or AK 47 or Cammondo and other guns.

And I still do but now when I make a mistake im penalized for it, and it's also a question of game design, weather or not this a better or worse idea, so far no respawns have left me unsatisfied, winning or losing.


Oh man, don't get me started. I played the crap out of that game! Twas a very serious love affair for awhile. That's an unfortunate point of contention among Rainbow Six OGs. A lot think the Vegas' were a departure from tradition and that Ubisoft changed the franchise to be too much of an arcade shooter.

I'm sorry if I made it sound like I was calling you out on your skill! That definitely wasn't my intention. I'm hoping my alternatives work for you because it doesn't look like the devs WANT to alter the game in that way. They want big Esports money and that means making it more Twitch friendly (meaning unfriendly).
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Posted 4/18/16

bahrawox wrote:


AzuroHeart wrote:

Ever played Rainbow SIx Vegas 2? I used to be on a "Game Battles" Team.

Im really not trying to be like "Im so f*cking good at video games" but its not a question of sucking or not, its that I want to have an all out brawl with people at times and other times i can be very thought out, and I brawled with people in Vegas 2 and people kinda sh*t themselves because I was able to shoot them down faster than they could with a P90 or FMC or AK 47 or Cammondo and other guns.

And I still do but now when I make a mistake im penalized for it, and it's also a question of game design, weather or not this a better or worse idea, so far no respawns have left me unsatisfied, winning or losing.


Oh man, don't get me started. I played the crap out of that game! Twas a very serious love affair for awhile. That's an unfortunate point of contention among Rainbow Six OGs. A lot think the Vegas' were a departure from tradition and that Ubisoft changed the franchise to be too much of an arcade shooter.

I'm sorry if I made it sound like I was calling you out on your skill! That definitely wasn't my intention. I'm hoping my alternatives work for you because it doesn't look like the devs WANT to alter the game in that way. They want big Esports money and that means making it more Twitch friendly (meaning unfriendly).


Oh don't worry about it, I feel sleepy today and I got alittle moody because that guy was being like "Dont die then!" and also calling me a scrub.

But I do play Splatoon which is an eSport and I like playing it.
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Well its a long time since they made a "real" Tom Clancy game....
sadly he is dead..
and they still use it as a marketing logo then anything else...
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Posted 4/18/16 , edited 4/18/16

AzuroHeart wrote:

Oh don't worry about it, I feel sleepy today and I got alittle moody because that guy was being like "Dont die then!" and also calling me a scrub.

But I do play Splatoon which is an eSport and I like playing it.


OK! Glad to know you're not mad at me! Although, "don't die" is really good advice!


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Well its a long time since they made a "real" Tom Clancy game....
sadly he is dead..
and they still use it as a marketing logo then anything else...


I mean, you're right but... the guy sold the rights to his name. That kind of thing will happen. Not like the games were his primary concern anyway. The dude wrote military science novels. I can't imagine his involvement in game development was significant beyond book accuracy.
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Posted 4/19/16

bahrawox wrote:

Freddy96NO wrote:

Well its a long time since they made a "real" Tom Clancy game....
sadly he is dead..
and they still use it as a marketing logo then anything else...


I mean, you're right but... the guy sold the rights to his name. That kind of thing will happen. Not like the games were his primary concern anyway. The dude wrote military science novels. I can't imagine his involvement in game development was significant beyond book accuracy.
sure, but also he maybe he choose to not like they want to keep the same standards or things from the novels or how they are build up (map design, play ground, what either do and how)

I just wish they holded on the story or the good "evil vs good" they had (cat vs mouse) etc.
how terrorist hunt on Vegas was quite fun and didn't get bored, you could have more control and less by how the maps was designed as the game Siege fails at...
sure the chaos is a bit what they are looking for when breaching.. but most seems boring, you know where they are that makes it quite dull and how much becomes down the way they breach or goes in for it.. nothing really else.

I would love some horror into siege like having underground (a bit similar places to cult locations in SWAT) where you can breach but should you? (they have more area to move in and not trapped like rats.
things play more organic, and with the options they can have (breach, seek and damage) traps, explosives and so on could make a bigger map like I just talked about so fun and scary (could be for both parts) with some env sound effects etc to feel like there is allways someone on you.
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Posted 4/19/16 , edited 4/19/16
It just sounds to me that this isn't your kind of game. Having no respawns in RS: Siege is, in my opinion, a vital game design. Matches are short enough so as to not be much of an issue. It's not meant to be a brawler. It's meant to be played very carefully and tactically. Having respawns would heavily discourage players from playing as such.
I'm not a big fan of Ubisoft's Tom Clancy games but I applaud them for this game. It's one of the most refreshing FPS I've played in a long time.
That said, I'm more of an arena shooter or fast-paced action shooter guy, myself. For example, I'm super jazzed about Overwatch.
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