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I like this. Snark doesn't have to be bad, but we certainly possess at least some desire floating around in our heads to be hurtful with it.

I used to motive-dive: I'd sit and think through all the possible desires driving me, and it was really depressing to find a selfish, emotional, and sometimes hurtful tangle. I thought I was a horrible person for being so childish. I still kind of think I am, but I know a little better now. It'd take far too long to go through all of it, but for the anime community it'll suffice to say this is why my second-favorite anime is the Monogatari series, and Nisemonogatari in particular. (No, it's not because of the toothbrush scene.) So, understanding that we all have the tendency to behave unsavorily - that we're all based on the same template - I think that my humor has become far more self-deprecating: I like to laugh at myself, because I used to take myself way too seriously. As I know it's just as likely I'd make the mistakes I see other people making, it helps me to keep things in perspective in conflicts. If I can play around and laugh at myself, I think I'm less likely to be obnoxious.


I get much of that same. It is difficult to honestly look at ourselves without some form of critically bred animosity. I certainly get that way after having a short lived emotional tirade.

I like to laugh at myself as well, but I haven't fully understood the why of that. I think a part of that for myself was to appear more nonthreatening among others. I noticed people would treat me better or wouldn't misinterpret me as much if I dumb myself down. I noticed that when I gave up that effort I started doing it significantly less. I think it's healthier now as opposed to how it had been. It's definitely another way of handling the ego though.


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It's so hard to disentangle ourselves from our deeply-held beliefs and causes. I used to have a semi-Randian disgust for the lazy and dishonest factions at my work, but later I realized that people are just kind of like that. Further, I realized that my perception of the "offenders" in my mind was hyperbolized because I had thought incorrectly that I was way better than they were. For this kind of stuff I recommend Doris Lessing's Prisons We Choose to Live Inside. Unfortunately I didn't find this book until long after I learned my lesson.


I'll definitely have to add it to my reading list. I cannot say I do not feel futility when dealing with others on occasion. I've been told I set my expectations too high and that it lends to my disappointment. However, I know if I lowered those expectations then I'd manufacture a pedestal beneath me. What I have left is the need to drive people to higher potentials. Of course, I also realize that people can be different cogs in a working machine. I always find humility in understanding that others can do what I cannot.

Essentially, the way I have come to cope with it is to think myself no better--at most a potential more realized by luck of circumstance. I constantly engage and acknowledge my own faults as a reminder of how similar I can be to others. It is that struggle, I think, that lends to our self awareness and unabashed quick acceptance of flaws. I think it demonstrates best our knowledge and awareness of being human.

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Question. Why has this topic been hit by such animosity? I'd understand if the topic was slightly controversial but it's not.


People will often take offense to discussions like this when they perceive it to be intellectually above themselves. I was ostracized by my peers when I was younger because they would assume my intentions. You think you're so much better! You just like to rub it in our faces! Who are you trying to impress, huh!? I started to play the fool to be accepted and at some point could no longer differentiate who I was. I've come to realize that those reactions I had blamed myself for had not been my fault. I am familiar with people's misplaced resentment for that reason.

It is when I meet intentionally patronizing individuals I realize how much I am not like that.


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^ lol or pretty much that.

GrandMasterTime wrote:

Question. Why has this topic been hit by such animosity? I'd understand if the topic was slightly controversial but it's not.

Bcause they probably couldn't understand the questions being posed or saw themselves in them. I've only seen a couple people who bothered to post their contempt for this topic, but then again I had just been skimming those, so maybe I'm just not remembering them all.

In all honesty I have (so far) been finding this topic to be somewhat refreshing. Admittably, as OP stated (I think in some other thread), I haven't seen any topics in GD that required some (if any) reflective thinking.

So.. pretty much just ignore those. -shrug-
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Posted 4/25/16


Why is it that reason and logic has been attributed to being just a space void of empathy?

on the specific difference between making judgments (i.e. 'appropriate' or 'inappropriate') on 'moral personal' dilemmas (e.g. throwing a person out of a sinking life-boat to save others), and 'moral impersonal' dilemmas (e.g. keeping money found in a lost wallet).
There are three brain structures the medial prefrontal cortex, the posterior cingulate and angular gyrus on the left and right sides. They play a central role in the emotional processes that influence personal moral decision-making.



Why do people champion themselves as being arbiters of reason with justification that it is because they are insensitive to criticism?

Depends on the persons mental state. If you're sensitive to criticism you're more likely to be biased toward focusing on the negative.



Why is it that people assume what they are capable of or what they themselves are best at seamlessly translates to other people despite differing environmental and biological predisposition?

we are just a product of our environment.



What is 'common sense' if you don't understand it--if you are unable to explain it?

then I guess you don't have any lol (get it)


Why are people quick to label themselves the more logical one, the more rational one, the superior intellectual if they are unable to demonstrate it without say-so?

If I say I'm cheery am I supposed to light a candle and stick it up my ass?

Posted 4/26/16

PrinceJudar wrote:


GrandMasterTime wrote:

Question. Why has this topic been hit by such animosity? I'd understand if the topic was slightly controversial but it's not.


People will often take offense to discussions like this when they perceive it to be intellectually above themselves. I was ostracized by my peers when I was younger because they would assume my intentions. You think you're so much better! You just like to rub it in our faces! Who are you trying to impress, huh!? I started to play the fool to be accepted and at some point could no longer differentiate who I was. I've come to realize that those reactions I had blamed myself for had not been my fault. I am familiar with people's misplaced resentment for that reason.

It is when I meet intentionally patronizing individuals I realize how much I am not like that.




Right. Well for what it's worth, i wasn't "patronizing" you, fair lady. :P


XxDarkSasuxX wrote:

^ lol or pretty much that.

GrandMasterTime wrote:

Question. Why has this topic been hit by such animosity? I'd understand if the topic was slightly controversial but it's not.

Bcause they probably couldn't understand the questions being posed or saw themselves in them. I've only seen a couple people who bothered to post their contempt for this topic, but then again I had just been skimming those, so maybe I'm just not remembering them all.

In all honesty I have (so far) been finding this topic to be somewhat refreshing. (Oh yes, he's getting stronger. Power level is over 9000! ) Admittably, as OP stated (I think in some other thread), I haven't seen any topics in GD that required some (if any) reflective thinking.

So.. pretty much just ignore those. -shrug-


Who is patronizing, is this patronizing and how it is to be done? I see. Arrogant fool and hypocrite. How chivalrous. Coach her. Be her white knight. A shining example of how she should be, or any of your own sycophantic admirers as you are hers.






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Why is it that reason and logic has been attributed to being just a space void of empathy?

on the specific difference between making judgments (i.e. 'appropriate' or 'inappropriate') on 'moral personal' dilemmas (e.g. throwing a person out of a sinking life-boat to save others), and 'moral impersonal' dilemmas (e.g. keeping money found in a lost wallet).
There are three brain structures the medial prefrontal cortex, the posterior cingulate and angular gyrus on the left and right sides. They play a central role in the emotional processes that influence personal moral decision-making.



Why do people champion themselves as being arbiters of reason with justification that it is because they are insensitive to criticism?

Depends on the persons mental state. If you're sensitive to criticism you're more likely to be biased toward focusing on the negative.

When the criticisms are unjustified but the person can't defend against it mental problems arise.

Why is it that people assume what they are capable of or what they themselves are best at seamlessly translates to other people despite differing environmental and biological predisposition?

we are just a product of our environment.



What is 'common sense' if you don't understand it--if you are unable to explain it?

then I guess you don't have any lol (get it)

(Common sense. It does not exist anymore.)

Why are people quick to label themselves the more logical one, the more rational one, the superior intellectual if they are unable to demonstrate it without say-so?

If I say I'm cheery am I supposed to light a candle and stick it up my ass?

(dafuq)



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Posted 4/26/16 , edited 4/26/16

Yume_Mirai wrote:

Right. Well for what it's worth, i wasn't "patronizing" you, fair lady. :P


Didn't say you were. I had a recent confrontation in mind. It was with someone that isn't on this site.


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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:

^ lol or pretty much that.

Bcause they probably couldn't understand the questions being posed or saw themselves in them. I've only seen a couple people who bothered to post their contempt for this topic, but then again I had just been skimming those, so maybe I'm just not remembering them all.

In all honesty I have (so far) been finding this topic to be somewhat refreshing. (Oh yes, he's getting stronger. Power level is over 9000! ) Admittably, as OP stated (I think in some other thread), I haven't seen any topics in GD that required some (if any) reflective thinking.

So.. pretty much just ignore those. -shrug-


Who is patronizing, is this patronizing and how it is to be done? I see. Arrogant fool and hypocrite. How chivalrous. Coach her. Be her white knight. A shining example of how she should be, or any of your own sycophantic admirers as you are hers.


I think you'd make a more beautiful knight, babe.




Drozy wrote:

Why is it that reason and logic has been attributed to being just a space void of empathy?

on the specific difference between making judgments (i.e. 'appropriate' or 'inappropriate') on 'moral personal' dilemmas (e.g. throwing a person out of a sinking life-boat to save others), and 'moral impersonal' dilemmas (e.g. keeping money found in a lost wallet).
There are three brain structures the medial prefrontal cortex, the posterior cingulate and angular gyrus on the left and right sides. They play a central role in the emotional processes that influence personal moral decision-making.



That's interesting. I'll have to check that out more in depth at some point.
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PrinceJudar wrote:
I think you'd make a more beautiful knight, babe.
Not enough with one?
I thought you allready had one "L" knight?
Where did she go?

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Freddy96NO wrote:

Not enough with one?
I thought you allready had one "L" knight?
Where did she go?



She's still around.



Just not here.
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PrinceJudar wrote:
She's still around.

Just not here.
wait.. she is still around but not here?
Is she in there!?

"good grief..."



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