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Posted 4/21/16 , edited 4/21/16
Soooo. That Skip Beat Kickstarter campaign was pretty exciting, and nudged me into starting to watch the show (after having seen this title get mentioned pretty often in favorites lists and such) in spite of the not very appealing (to me) description.

Did the same thing happen to anyone else?

If so, share your thoughts here. Or if you watched it in the past and have stuff to say, go for it.

My thoughts so far:

Stage 1: Kept seeing the title mentioned. Read the description on Crunchyroll (blah blah blah "sixteen year-old girl who loves her childhood friend, Shotaro, but is cruelly betrayed and thus seeks revenge against him.") and thought, nope. Not for me. Not interested in a teenager pining over childhood friend, and just how seriously can betrayal be when he's just a childhood friend she's got a crush on. Revenge? Not my thing over something so petty. Did not watch.

Stage 2: Got kicked by Kickstarter into watching the first episode to see if it seemed worth supporting. Ah, I see. Really not liking doormat Kyoko at all. Watched more and yeah, still can't stand ever-loving Kyoko; Shotaro's a jerk for sure but revenge? Really? And then ... um yeah, he's more than just a jerk;
and I understand the revenge desire, even if it's over the top and bombastic. That's what happens when someone has truly pissed you off and you've been repressing your own wants for years.

Stage 3: But I still don't like her. I'm mildly interested in seeing how things go down, but I find her really irritating to watch.

Stage 4: And the frequently changing art style is also irritating. I'm fairly accustomed to art going from a more serious look to cartoony to convey humor and wackiness, but I'm getting mental whiplash here.

Stage 5: It's not just that the "Love Me" department seems kind of stupid (I can buy into a fair amount of stupid weird stuff in anime), but I'm having a hard time getting my head around the idea that in order to regain herself she has to
This, I think, is probably a big cultural disconnect for me. I get that it's a way for her to also learn to love herself, but I am having difficulty watching things play out that in order to do so she has to
It makes my western-culture stomach churn.

At this point I think I'm at least getting accustomed to that, though I still have moments of watching with my nose screwed up a bit and a tang of bile in my throat. But, now having watched through Episode 14, we're at least starting to see a greater degree of competency and not just idiocy and clownishness in Kyoko. Still, I'm still not anywhere close to fully enjoying it.

11 episodes to go. I'll make the time to watch these, and plan to post back here as I do so.

Please join me.
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Your thoughts on the beginning of the series are vey similar to my own the first time I watched it through. I watched the first episode and started reading the comments part way through (and just listening) because I couldn't stand doormat Kyoko. But the comments were all positive, so I decided to give it a few more episodes. Then I got amused by things here and there (Kyoko's phone call response is a good example) so I kept watching.

I disliked the concept of the Love Me section too and it was really painful to watch those first few episodes for it. But it doesn't go where you fear it might go with the concept.


For where you are in the show at episode 14, the Love me section has given her:

and the trend continues throughout the rest of the show/manga though not everything originates specifically from the Love Me section.

I will say that my love for Skip Beat as a whole has a lot to do with where the manga carries on after the show ends. The show covers approximately 11 volumes of manga and there are 38 volumes out in Japan (37 in the US). It's one of the reasons that it's so frustrating that it ends without a second season since it's really just getting started at the end of the anime.

You comment about the visuals is one of the main complaints of the series. A lot of the wackiness was added into the anime. It definitely took some getting used to but I don't mind it anymore. It does make it a bit harder for a possible season 2 since the manga goes to some more serious arcs.
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I like shows where the Characters have genuine talent; the theme of revenge is interesting as well. When "Bo" pursues her revenge, it all backfires to make Sho more popular; it isn't till she uses her actual talent setting aside her revenge (well, sort of) that she achieves a measure of success towards the flummoxed Sho in his music video. Despite her own pain - maybe because of it, Kyoko becomes a role model to Maria which is another aspect of the show I enjoy

If Skip Beat were opening this season, it would be #1 on my list ...and nothing else would even be close; I am already dropping boring shows, SB was never in that kind of danger.
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Skip Beat is written where the characters develop as the story progresses, meaning you may not like them at first but things will change .

I have followed the manga very closely and it gets more complicated since the characters are complex emotionally.

I just think this show was adapted into an anime too early.

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Posted 4/23/16 , edited 4/24/16
Just finished Episode 20. I do not like the new ED.


gabuhaha wrote:

I will say that my love for Skip Beat as a whole has a lot to do with where the manga carries on after the show ends. The show covers approximately 11 volumes of manga and there are 38 volumes out in Japan (37 in the US). It's one of the reasons that it's so frustrating that it ends without a second season since it's really just getting started at the end of the anime.


Hmmm. Depending on how the anime ends, I might be interested picking up the manga where it leaves off. I'm still not really hooked. Many parts of many episodes still make me wince. But the proportion of stuff that I do like seems to be growing. Still not actually liking Kyoko though (even if I do like her better than I did.)


You comment about the visuals is one of the main complaints of the series. A lot of the wackiness was added into the anime. It definitely took some getting used to but I don't mind it anymore. It does make it a bit harder for a possible season 2 since the manga goes to some more serious arcs.


This is a major source of my continued wincing.

But I did find it rather adorable when Kyoko was using the Ren doll to give herself a pep talk prior to the promo video with Sho.


ETA: And done. The wacky art changes and over-the-top presentation of mood changes and such continued to make it less enjoyable to watch than it otherwise would have been, but the story itself just got better. Once the "Love Me" project faded into the background and Kyoko became more likable I enjoyed it more.

Aaaaand, it did exactly what an anime based on an ongoing manga is supposed to do -- made me want to read the manga to see the next stage of the story. So, I might do that. The main thing I don't like about that is that the darned thing is still ongoing, and I'm really not into endless series. Still, I guess if I got started and I got bored, or there was an arc that truly seemed to be a good stopping place, that would be okay.
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But I did find it rather adorable when Kyoko was using the Ren doll to give herself a pep talk prior to the promo video with Sho.

It's the little moments like that that make the series for me .



ETA: And done. The wacky art changes and over-the-top presentation of mood changes and such continued to make it less enjoyable to watch than it otherwise would have been, but the story itself just got better. Once the "Love Me" project faded into the background and Kyoko became more likable I enjoyed it more.

Aaaaand, it did exactly what an anime based on an ongoing manga is supposed to do -- made me want to read the manga to see the next stage of the story. So, I might do that. The main thing I don't like about that is that the darned thing is still ongoing, and I'm really not into endless series. Still, I guess if I got started and I got bored, or there was an arc that truly seemed to be a good stopping place, that would be okay.

In the anime creator's defense, the way the manga is set up, there's really no other place that they could have ended a 25 episode series. The mangaka is really good at interweaving her arcs so that you want to keep reading. If you think about it in terms of Kyoko's development, it stops in a decent place since she now has direction in her life and is starting to succeed as an actress. The rest of the Dark Moon arc changes the focus to Ren's issues so it doesn't really bring any more closure.

In general, I'm not a fan of really long series. I only have a handful of titles that go over 20 volumes and literally the only one above 30 volumes that I have is Skip Beat. Like any long running series, the mangaka has her highs and lows. I do feel like she is trying to reach a certain point in Kyoko's development and is not going to drag it out forever but it will probably be a at least a few more years (real world time, not Skip Beat time) before she reaches that. But I keep reading because it has interesting scenarios and because with the exception of one arc (the vie ghoul arc), Kyoko is a heroine who doesn't fall into the stereotypical shojo trap. Kyoko makes mistakes, needs advice, and sometimes a reprimand but she doesn't need or want anyone to save her nor does she let herself go back to being a doormat.

Anyway, if you do pick it up, the anime is a pretty faithful adaptation until volume 8 where it cuts an arc mostly about Moko so they could adapt part of the Dark Moon arc. That's probably the best place to pick it up if you don't start at the beginning. I'm glad it became enjoyable for you at the end.
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The anime is only like a intro to the greatness of the manga. I don't read manga anymore though, I've dropped them completely to have more time for real life. I am thinking about picking back up this manga though. I just don't really remember where I was. Hmmmm...
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