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Posted 4/26/16 , edited 4/28/16
I notice there's a lot of agreement that 'fast food' is 'bad' for you, but why is it bad? Why is it 'bad' enough to warrant legislation?

There's the perception that 'fast food' is somehow less expensive than groceries, but why is that? How would you change that perception?

Fast food, taken to be food that you purchase from a restaurant, is not bad for you until it is taken to an extreme. It is not particularly lacking in nutrition, until taken to an extreme. It is not going to shorten your life, until taken to an extreme. All food, every single thing you put in your body, will kill you if you eat only that item.

Fat is not bad for you, until it is taken to an extreme. Fat is flavor. Fat is life and energy. Sugar is life and energy. That's why they taste so damn good.

You want a villain in this melodrama? Look at the obnoxiously high-paced lifestyle of the people most affected by this fast food frenzy. Look at the demonization of discipline. Look at your own self, demonizing what you have decided is the Great Evil of Civilization.
Posted 4/26/16 , edited 4/28/16
You ban fast food and I'll literally come over and hack you to pieces with a machete
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Not banned, but they definitely should not be serving a 1000 calorie burger at school.
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There's the perception that 'fast food' is somehow less expensive than groceries, but why is that? How would you change that perception?



People are stupid. They don't know how to cook, so they make a grumpy face and say "my terrible parents never taught me to cook so I have to eat fast food."

I would hand them a cookbook and say "if you don't like it, fix it."

Then they would throw the cookbook away and whinge about some other stupid excuse.

So I would say "most ignorance is willful" and leave them alone.

And if they killed themselves by eating shitty food until it made them sick, I would call that "survival of the fittest."
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gornotck wrote:

There's the perception that 'fast food' is somehow less expensive than groceries, but why is that? How would you change that perception?



People are stupid. They don't know how to cook, so they make a grumpy face and say "my terrible parents never taught me to cook so I have to eat fast food."

I would hand them a cookbook and say "if you don't like it, fix it."

Then they would throw the cookbook away and whinge about some other stupid excuse.

So I would say "most ignorance is willful" and leave them alone.

And if they killed themselves by eating shitty food until it made them sick, I would call that "survival of the fittest."


Subtle. So you're saying we should teach people to cook in school and avoid this whole shindig?
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lol Where I live it's the one's that can cook and cook well that are typically fat and the ones always eating out are the beanpoles. Knowing to cook is just the tradition here. The one's that actually spend the energy to go out hunting and fishing to get those ingredients are the exception. They know how to cook and they spend the required energy to not get fat.

I'm still thinking it's a scapegoat for being so sedentary in modern society. Let's improve parks and recreation... and especially expand activity available to adults. The facilities need flexible schedules too.
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It's a person choice whether they want to eat fast food or not. You want to ban fast food.. go become the next Kim Jong Un..or mayor of crazy city where they ban sodas..lol.
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Fast food may not be the healthiest thing to eat, but it's cheaper than going out to a nice restaurant and more convenient than trying to cook food for yourself (because let's face it, most people these days don't have either the time, ability, and/or patience to cook for themselves). I don't think fast food should be banned. People should have the freedom to eat what they want.
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gornotck wrote:

So you're saying we should teach people to cook in school and avoid this whole shindig?


I don't know when or why we stopped having Home Economics in schools to begin with.
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uh no.

I use fast food to help me cope with stress (counting soda and candy etc as fast food also).

Without it in my life i would be slim and not overweight but i would have lashed out more then twice already (nearly stabbed parents with a knife twice due to stress and losing control and my sense of self)

I would rather not have my only method of coping even after years of therapy and coping method searching be banned because i am completely sure i would eventually lose control and my sense of self and hurt someone maybe even kill them.

(Seriously stress fucks with your brain NEVER bottle extreme amounts of stress up find a coping method even if it's unhealthy because once you bottle to much up you can go to the point where you don't think logically and you are not in control all you are is rage and anger nothing else)
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cdarklock wrote:


gornotck wrote:

So you're saying we should teach people to cook in school and avoid this whole shindig?


I don't know when or why we stopped having Home Economics in schools to begin with.


i had it in my school i never cook because i hate it and it's cheaper to buy a pre-made boxed meal to heat up where i live (not to mention it tastes better also) and it has vegetables as it's a health food company who makes it so win-win-win.

At $1-3 a meal you can't go wrong!
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Not banned, but they definitely should not be serving a 1000 calorie burger at school.


how the fuck does one get an 1000 cal burger... i mean even triple cheeseburgers at mcdonalds are only 500-600 cals
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cdarklock wrote:


gornotck wrote:

So you're saying we should teach people to cook in school and avoid this whole shindig?


I don't know when or why we stopped having Home Economics in schools to begin with.


It might have been a liability thing, like most school programs that are dropped. Poor little Toni Twotoes keeps dropping the knives and pans on her feet and the school board is afraid that her parents are going to sue.

I know there was at least one Home Economics program when I was in middle school, but that sort of thing is provided mostly to girls, and I think it was just sewing.
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how the fuck does one get an 1000 cal burger... i mean even triple cheeseburgers at mcdonalds are only 500-600 cals


This may shock people, but McDonald's uses some pretty lean beef - the fat content of school lunches is a LOT higher.
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How much am I allowed to split hairs? Because strictly speaking, almost any food is 'good' for you, in the sense that you will live longer by eating it than by letting yourself starve to death. I would also echo Ejanss' concern about defining fast food, and add that we need a justification for allowing unhealthy foods that do not fall under the 'fast food' definition, or else we have a whole new debate about whether we need to ban all unhealthy foods or not (and what constitutes 'unhealthy food').
In any case, no, I don't think we should ban fast food. Out of all the things to ban, it shouldn't be the top priority on your list, especially when things like smoking and other nicotine products, as well as a variety of other harmful products, are out there still. Moreover, you're just running into a quagmire of issues regarding government overreach, individual responsibility vs rights, etc. Arguably (and truthfully, in my opinion), the government should not be in the business of protecting people from themselves. If you want to do something that could be detrimental to yourself, so be it. As long as it isn't putting my life at risk, it's not my place to actually stop you- although I will try to talk some sense into you.
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