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Let me know if at thread like this one exist or not.
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I have yet another idea for a story that I want opinions on. I hate that I can't stick to one plot idea and keep on coming up with new ideas like this. Here is the plot.





Now, I have ten main protagonists in this story and it centers around their lives. Is this a good idea to have? Any changes need to be made or not? Let me know.


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I think you have too much going on in one story. Great literature tends to focus on one of the 7 conflicts ( http://www.dailywritingtips.com/7-types-of-narrative-conflict/ ) while you list at least 3 conflicts going on with the 1) different species, 2) different classes, and 3) different nations. Additionally, more than three primary characters ends up being difficult for many readers to follow. Yes, you may have recurring sub-characters, but generally you have the hero/heroine, a companion, and possibly a romantic interest as the primary characters. Sherlock Holmes had Dr. Watson, Harry Potter had Hermione and Ron. I'd suggest you simplify OR you divide the plot into separate series that are spin offs of the main storyline.
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I think you have too much going on in one story. Great literature tends to focus on one of the 7 conflicts ( http://www.dailywritingtips.com/7-types-of-narrative-conflict/ ) while you list at least 3 conflicts going on with the 1) different species, 2) different classes, and 3) different nations. Additionally, more than three primary characters ends up being difficult for many readers to follow. Yes, you may have recurring sub-characters, but generally you have the hero/heroine, a companion, and possibly a romantic interest as the primary characters. Sherlock Holmes had Dr. Watson, Harry Potter had Hermione and Ron. I'd suggest you simplify OR you divide the plot into separate series that are spin offs of the main storyline.


So having ten main characters is too much?
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Wow you are so creative. With that much creative juice flowing around in your brain you should be able to create something really special. You just need to continue working to refine your style and focus on a genre or two. And you have to write a lot before you figure out what exactly that is. Every writer has failures too, so expect that and expect a lot of criticism because of it. Remember that which does not kill you makes you stronger saying? It applies to writers too.
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Wow you are so creative. With that much creative juice flowing around in your brain you should be able to create something really special. You just need to continue working to refine your style and focus on a genre or two. And you have to write a lot before you figure out what exactly that is. Every writer has failures too, so expect that and expect a lot of criticism because of it. Remember that which does not kill you makes you stronger saying? It applies to writers too.


Thanks so much.
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Razor_Girl wrote:

I think you have too much going on in one story. Great literature tends to focus on one of the 7 conflicts ( http://www.dailywritingtips.com/7-types-of-narrative-conflict/ ) while you list at least 3 conflicts going on with the 1) different species, 2) different classes, and 3) different nations. Additionally, more than three primary characters ends up being difficult for many readers to follow. Yes, you may have recurring sub-characters, but generally you have the hero/heroine, a companion, and possibly a romantic interest as the primary characters. Sherlock Holmes had Dr. Watson, Harry Potter had Hermione and Ron. I'd suggest you simplify OR you divide the plot into separate series that are spin offs of the main storyline.


So having ten main characters is too much?


I think having ten main characters in ONE book would be too much. It's been done before, but it gets difficult to follow the plot when you have too many separate people to follow doing different things. If I need ten characters I'd probably break them into separate groups and have a book following each group and showing the plot from a different perspective. For instance, in the Heritage of Shannara series, the first book has three main characters who then break off and the following books each follow one of those characters and the followers they end up having. So you have the initial Scions of Shannara, followed by The Druid of Shannara, The Elf Queen of Shannara and The Talismans of Shannara. All three books lead up to the climax but from the different perspectives and geographic locations of the original three characters.
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Razor_Girl wrote:

I think you have too much going on in one story. Great literature tends to focus on one of the 7 conflicts ( http://www.dailywritingtips.com/7-types-of-narrative-conflict/ ) while you list at least 3 conflicts going on with the 1) different species, 2) different classes, and 3) different nations. Additionally, more than three primary characters ends up being difficult for many readers to follow. Yes, you may have recurring sub-characters, but generally you have the hero/heroine, a companion, and possibly a romantic interest as the primary characters. Sherlock Holmes had Dr. Watson, Harry Potter had Hermione and Ron. I'd suggest you simplify OR you divide the plot into separate series that are spin offs of the main storyline.


So having ten main characters is too much?


I think having ten main characters in ONE book would be too much. It's been done before, but it gets difficult to follow the plot when you have too many separate people to follow doing different things. If I need ten characters I'd probably break them into separate groups and have a book following each group and showing the plot from a different perspective. For instance, in the Heritage of Shannara series, the first book has three main characters who then break off and the following books each follow one of those characters and the followers they end up having. So you have the initial Scions of Shannara, followed by The Druid of Shannara, The Elf Queen of Shannara and The Talismans of Shannara. All three books lead up to the climax but from the different perspectives and geographic locations of the original three characters.


It's likely I'll be making this novel into a book series. And each chapter will center on the characters the way Game of Thrones does it.
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I feel like your story as of now, is mostly a setting. I don't understand who the characters are, what they will be doing or where the core conflicts come in. Its difficult to judge off of that, but I will say it feels like you have a lot going on and that can be messy and confusing for a reader. I'd suggest finding your central conflict and then re-evaluating which parts of your setting are pivotal to that conflict and cutting everything else out.
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I feel like your story as of now, is mostly a setting. I don't understand who the characters are, what they will be doing or where the core conflicts come in. Its difficult to judge off of that, but I will say it feels like you have a lot going on and that can be messy and confusing for a reader. I'd suggest finding your central conflict and then re-evaluating which parts of your setting are pivotal to that conflict and cutting everything else out.


The characters are a group of individuals who go through a series of events that are rather unforunate. Plus the world is enduring plenty of struggles and conflict that traps the group of people.


Pretty much the story is talking about their lives during the struggle.
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I feel like your story as of now, is mostly a setting. I don't understand who the characters are, what they will be doing or where the core conflicts come in. Its difficult to judge off of that, but I will say it feels like you have a lot going on and that can be messy and confusing for a reader. I'd suggest finding your central conflict and then re-evaluating which parts of your setting are pivotal to that conflict and cutting everything else out.


The characters are a group of individuals who go through a series of events that are rather unforunate. Plus the world is enduring plenty of struggles and conflict that traps the group of people.


Pretty much the story is talking about their lives during the struggle.


I guess what I'm trying to ask is "Is there a goal here?". From what you described, this could easily be a slice of life novel, because while you described the setting, you didn't describe the goal of the characters. If so, that is fine (although I think at that point a lot of the setting becomes more background decoration than anything), but if you are going for something Game of Thrones style, you need to have several factions and you need a goal which puts those factions at odds ("Several groups fight to overtake the throne of Westeros from the Lannisters").
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I feel like your story as of now, is mostly a setting. I don't understand who the characters are, what they will be doing or where the core conflicts come in. Its difficult to judge off of that, but I will say it feels like you have a lot going on and that can be messy and confusing for a reader. I'd suggest finding your central conflict and then re-evaluating which parts of your setting are pivotal to that conflict and cutting everything else out.


The characters are a group of individuals who go through a series of events that are rather unforunate. Plus the world is enduring plenty of struggles and conflict that traps the group of people.


Pretty much the story is talking about their lives during the struggle.


I guess what I'm trying to ask is "Is there a goal here?". From what you described, this could easily be a slice of life novel, because while you described the setting, you didn't describe the goal of the characters. If so, that is fine (although I think at that point a lot of the setting becomes more background decoration than anything), but if you are going for something Game of Thrones style, you need to have several factions and you need a goal which puts those factions at odds ("Several groups fight to overtake the throne of Westeros from the Lannisters").


Oh, okay. Yeah, there is no set goal in the story. If I were to make a goal it would be each character trying to stop the world war that is taken place. They want answers as to who and what started the war yet they deal with struggles before finding out the answers they seek.
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Oh, okay. Yeah, there is no set goal in the story. If I were to make a goal it would be each character trying to stop the world war that is taken place. They want answers as to who and what started the war yet they deal with struggles before finding out the answers they seek.


Okay, I can dig that. I think you should focus more on the characters then and less on the setting, and in a slice of life story, you should probably focus on fewer characters. Maybe one main character from each faction (as well as several side characters) as they explore the philosophical basis of their own factions ideology.

I'd be interested in seeing where you could take this. Now the hardest part is actually writing it instead of coming up with more new ideas
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Let me know if at thread like this one exist or not.
Thanks a bunches.

I have yet another idea for a story that I want opinions on. I hate that I can't stick to one plot idea and keep on coming up with new ideas like this. Here is the plot.





Now, I have ten main protagonists in this story and it centers around their lives. Is this a good idea to have? Any changes need to be made or not? Let me know.




I think the scenario above is intriguing with a lot of potential. I do agree that 10 protagonists in one story might be a bit much though. It will be hard to develop rich character backgrounds this way. However, maybe if you spread several of the main character stories over a series of novels or books it will work well. I did notice the title is "The Gaea Chronicles: Forsaken Crowns", so maybe this is your intention already?
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Oh, okay. Yeah, there is no set goal in the story. If I were to make a goal it would be each character trying to stop the world war that is taken place. They want answers as to who and what started the war yet they deal with struggles before finding out the answers they seek.


Okay, I can dig that. I think you should focus more on the characters then and less on the setting, and in a slice of life story, you should probably focus on fewer characters. Maybe one main character from each faction (as well as several side characters) as they explore the philosophical basis of their own factions ideology.

I'd be interested in seeing where you could take this. Now the hardest part is actually writing it instead of coming up with more new ideas ;)


The story will focus on each character for each chapter. The chapters will be named after the characters and the talk about their lives, struggles, and conflict pertaining to the war and each other.
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It's a novel series. There is more than one book.
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